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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:52 PM
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Why are freepers/teabaggers/repugs so fucking stupid?
Honestly... how do people get so stupid? Just take for instance the recent supreme court decision giving corporations the ability to spend freely on elections. Who in their right fucking mind can think this is a good idea (unless you control the corporations)? What can they be being told that convinces them it is a good idea? Free speech? WTF? That is just one topic, the list is to big to even try and list them all but you get the idea. So... I ask you again, how does someone get so fucking stupid?

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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:55 PM
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1. Its a good question
I have a theory that stupid and ignorant people are attracted to the republican party. Note there are always exceptions. But overall, I have noticed in life that republicans are invariably either dumber than the average bear or more ignorant or both.

I am dead serious about this by the way.
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whyverne Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:36 PM
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14. I think it's as simple as that.
Every family I can think of, including mine. The folks who don't read. The dullest knives so to speak. Every one of them is a ditto head or a tea bagger. I noticed that over the holidays. And every one of them had to shoot off their big mouths about their politics while everyone else was trying to be genial.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:23 PM
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18. Yep, that's exactly it. I love this quote:
"While not all conservatives are ignorant, all ignorant people are conservative."

And it's certainly true in my family.
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Bosso 63 Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:23 AM
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26. John Stuart Mill, I like that quote too.
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:56 PM
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2. lack of critical thinking skills
promoted by their communities (school, church, etc.)

:shrug:
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:09 PM
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5. Worse, it is the willful rejection of knowledge, wisdom, and common sense.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:11 PM
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6. Exactly
They simply turn a blind eye... it's fucked up.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:58 PM
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3. Well, those charter schools and Fox News are gonna make more and more of them. nt
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:06 PM
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4. Because they think with their thumb up their butt.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:15 PM
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7. Do you have any proof that the teabaggers
think this ruling is a good thing? I haven't seen that.

They're upset about the bailouts, I don't think they're happy that the richest companies in the country will be able to use taxpayer-provided money to buy Congress to keep it rolling.

Again, if you have any evidence that they're OK with it, I'd like to see it.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:28 PM
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13. Take a look at the freepers site
Lots of tea party people there and seem to be much in favor of the ruling. Sorry, I won't give a link but go there and do a search, easy to find.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:34 AM
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36. I haven't been there much since the election
but I'll take a look. I was hoping perhaps you'd have a news article that you could cite, or perhaps a picture of a sign from a tea party rally.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:16 PM
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8. When you're a GOPer you don't have to think. Fux News and Limbaugh do it for you.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:17 PM
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9. The Republicans are smart enough to tap into this populist unrest...
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 10:17 PM by lib2DaBone
The Republicans know how to build in hot buttons. The public is pissed.. and the Repugs know that if they can tap into this unrest.. they can channel it to benefit the big banks and corporations.

The Tea Baggers.. will protest to anyone who will listen. And of course.. Fox News is there to broadcast the proceedings to Joe six-pack sitting at home, and convince him that this Tea Bag Party complaints are legitimate.

As always, the DEMS let the Repukes control the talking points and set the agenda. And like before.. it will cost them the election. They never learn.
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:18 PM
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10. we can't all be above average
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:25 PM
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11. They are slowly turning into rhinoceroses

The "epidemic" of the rhinoceroses serves as a convenient allegory for the mass uprising of Nazism and fascism before and during World War II. Ionesco's main reason for writing Rhinoceros is not simply to criticize the horrors of Nazis, but to explore the mentality of those who so easily succumbed to Nazism. A universal consciousness that subverts individual free thought and will defines this mentality; in other words, people get rolled up in the snowball of general opinion around them, and they start thinking what others are thinking. In the play, people repeat ideas others have said earlier, or simultaneously say the same things. Once other people, especially authority figures, collapse in the play, the remaining humans find it even easier to justify why the metamorphoses are desirable. Ionesco is careful not to make his play a one-sided critique of the brutality of Nazism. The rhinos become more beautiful as the play progresses until they overshadow the ugliness of humanity, and the audience is forced to recognize that an impressionable individual might have similarly perceived the swelling ranks of Nazis as superior.


http://www.sparknotes.com/drama/rhinoceros/themes.html
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:27 PM
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12. they believed in whatever is told to them for so long they just don't process facts..
its all part of the dumbing down and propagandizing of America by the Republican Party. There minds are closed to other possibilities other than what Rupert Murdoch an immigrant tells them.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:56 PM
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15. Stupid, or...
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 10:58 PM by BeFree
...hypocritical-bat-shit-crazy?

Coining a new word here: Hypocrazy.





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CANDO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:05 PM
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16. They were born that way!
eom
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:07 PM
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17. Uneducated people with access to the intertubes...
provide a prime breeding ground for pushing propaganda. They believe everything they read and lack the critical thinking skills
to question and seek the truth.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:27 PM
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19. Read Altemeyer's "The Authoritarians". It should shed some light. nt
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:08 AM
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35. That was a fascinating read ...
... I've read through it twice now (and it was, as you guys probably know, the basis for John Dean's book "Conservatives without Conscience") and man oh man. I have more wingers in my family than I'd like to acknowledge and his hypothesis holds up for them all. I'd love for them to take that little "test" he gives but I know the results anyway.

My mom (rest her soul) was very concerned about "others" taking away things she felt she deserved (and they did not?) such as social security benefits, medicare, medicaid - all of which she used to the max. If she didn't get one social service benefit, she was on the phone DEMANDING what she felt was her due. She despised Bill Clinton because he "catered to the blacks" - and all this was fueled by (you guessed it) Fux News. She loved Rush and Hannity and followed their every word.

I think underneath it all was some racism (yet she had many black friends and they all loved each other so I think it was racism as a concept, not so much in everyday life) and her overriding fear that someone else would get what she thought was hers. How sad.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:44 AM
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40. You bring out an important point about authoritarians. They can not see their own
hypocrisy. You said your mom had black friends that she loved but she probably could spin around and talk like a racist. They do not recognize the hypocrisy. They seem to have things defined in a manner that allows them their sanity, and dont like someone pointing out the inconsistencies. My parents were similar.
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:00 AM
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20. Because it's a lot easier to sit back and be told what your opinion should be...
by the likes of Limpaugh, Hannity and Beck. It's the old schoolyard bully gang mentality...whatever the gang leader says is what you shaould think.

The teabagger mentality is very suseptable to authoritarianism.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:34 AM
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21. The promise of great riches, or status, or power. Something they can't deliver...
...but that you really want. And you wont give up the lust. It's like religion. They can't deliver either, but if you really want it -- you can only get it from them.

--imm
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Eagle_Eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 04:23 AM
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22. Home schooling
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 04:36 AM
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23. I actually know a freeper who thinks that particular decision is a bad idea.
However, his wingnut Clenis-blaming/Bewsh-absolving economic beliefs more than make up for it. He also thinks Reagan should be credited for Clinton's good economy. Yeah, astounding leap in logic there, but it's true.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 05:15 AM
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24. Perhaps You Have Cause and Effect Reversed
The effect isn't stupidity. That's the cause of being a Repub, a Teabagger or a Freeper.

Stupid is a prerequisite.
GAC
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 05:52 AM
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25. Statistically speaking
one half of the US population has less than the median IQ. This is a mathematical identity and is not subject to debate. The median is defined as the score in the center where half the scores are larger and half the scores are smaller. The last time I checked, the median fell somewhere in the neighborhood of 110, near the average. What this says is that there are easily 100 million people here with significantly less than average intelligence.

With that many of them about, you are going to find them somewhere, doing something. It is fairly close to unavoidable. The notion that they might flock together politically in significant numbers seems near inevitable. Keep the answers simple enough for long enough, and they are bound to show up.

As to the recent supreme court decision, there is no provision in the constitution that requires something to be a good idea to be legal. These are two different tests. Something can be legal and have stupid written all over it.

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Bosso 63 Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:37 AM
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27. Fear is the mind killer.
Show me a Republican, and I will show you someone with a belly full of fear. When the mind is clouded with fear one is likely to make bad choices.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:38 AM
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28. Laziness. Mental laziness.
It's easy to be ignorant, at least until the bill comes due.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:39 AM
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29. They believe their own propaganda...
from hate radio and the corporate media
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:40 AM
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30. Blinded by their ideology..
Black and white mentality and refusal to consider compromise.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:44 AM
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31. Because it is hard to educate one's self, and to think, and to keep educating one's self. nt
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:51 AM
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32. Religion
At least in part. When you're drilled from a young age to "take it on faith" and not question, it sets them up as easy marks for the snake oil salesmen like limbaugh, hannity etc. It's a lot easier than critical thinking and researching things for themselves.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:54 AM
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33. I don't believe it's due to low IQ or poor education
as I know plenty of highly-educated individuals, serving in positions requiring high levels of cognitive functioning, who have latched onto RW talking points. I believe it's more a matter of willful ignorance - a willingness to wall off certain areas of their consciousness to the pesky intrusion of facts. It's much like the phenomenon called 'doublethink' in George Orwell's 1984. I've worked with some of these people for years, and they're not stupid by any stretch of the imagination. That's not to say that some low-IQ, poorly-educated people aren't conservatives/freepers/teabaggers, but it's not a prerequisite.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:01 AM
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34. RE: the example of them supporting the SCOTUS decision, it's because
they know corporations support their causes. Religion, intolerance and anger at everyone different drives them to push for republican issues.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:46 AM
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37. Religion and fear.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:48 AM
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38. Ding- Ding!
I give you my last heart for that!
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:49 AM
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39. Religion, gullibility, extremely low intelligence, fear, and racism. n/t
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:50 AM
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41. ignorance is bliss
and they are overdosing on it to avoid a reality that they reject.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:01 AM
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42. If they were smart, they would be Democrats - or worse!!!!! nt
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