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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:41 PM
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Snow totals forecast map


ARRAUGH!!!
It's Snowmageddon AGAIN!
DC is cursed this year!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:42 PM
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1. Oh man!!!!!!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:43 PM
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2. It's Obama's fault
Typical Chicago weather from Obama and his cronies. :silly:
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keith the dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:46 PM
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4. LMAO!
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 07:21 PM
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46. At least he has done something about global warming! It's frickin' cold! n/t
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:44 PM
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3. So much for moving South....
:wow: :-(
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:46 PM
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5. Baltimore is Ridiculous
Last snow they did not plow at all. This time no one is even expecting it. But there is over two feet of snow here. No one can drive unless they are parked on a major route. Everyone is going to be housebound for at least a week at this rate, and tomorrow's snow is just going to make it worse. Baltimore City is a horrible example of local government, and really reinforces the GOP meme that government doesn't work.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:49 PM
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8. Perhaps some of the administrators from ND, Minn and Wisconsin should come to Maryland
to sow the folks how to cope with this kind of weather.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:09 PM
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23. We need equipment + personnel, Bklyn!!!
:rofl:
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:19 PM
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36. This kind of weather is rare in this area
We get a big his usually about every 5-10 years, and some years we get no snow at all. While I think it would be great to be totally prepared for this kind of snow, I don't know if the area can justify the expense.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:22 PM
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37. Michigan's running out of money. There are lots of experienced snow removal professionals there
who might be looking for a job.

Look for folks from the west side of the lower peninsula or the northern part of the upper peninsula. The upers use giant snowblowers and really know how to handle snow, you betcha!
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:34 PM
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43. Man I Would Love That
I understand it's an unusual event. But it does snow in Baltimore and there are plows.

Another thing you've got in the North are public expectations. People wouldn't put up with this up there. Being paralyzed for a weekend is understandable -- not for a week to ten days.
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malletgirl02 Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:51 PM
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11. Not Much better in Virginia
My dad, and I tried going to work today, but we got stuck trying to get out of our driveway. we had to get help from neighbors to get our car back into our driveway so it would block the road. My dad claims, that the snow plow came last night, but I don't believe him he I look at our road. My local government snow removal sucks also.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:56 PM
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14. Oh BS!
Why should Baltimore spend the money to prevent for a once in a decade (or less) event?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:26 PM
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16. They Have Plows
They just decide not to run over budget. There are plows sitting idle or going over snow emergency routes that don't need it while entire neighborhoods are snowbound for a week. It permates the entire city government. Not all governments are this way, but Baltimore certainly is. Anyone who lives here knows it.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:27 PM
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27. If that was Chicago somebody would have lost their job
Starting with the Mayor.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:52 PM
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32. Thanks You, ChiSox
That is the first positive response I've had so far.

I do think that if you believe in government, you have to insist on some accountability to the public. I understand that there's been a storm, but it's now 10-12 days of snow of the ground with no effort of plowing at any time. And by the time it's over, it will be over three weeks.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:24 PM
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38. Well, that's what happened to former Mayor Jane Byrne.
It must've been in the late '70s or '80s. I believe that she was replaced by the late Harold Washington.
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skorpo Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 07:53 PM
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47. Dupe
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 08:05 PM by skorpo
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skorpo Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 08:01 PM
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49. Jane Byrne beat Michael Bilandic because of the snow.
She used the city's poor snow removal effort to beat him. Jane just served one term. Harold Washington beat her in the primary.

The storm that gave her the win was an awful one. I went 40 miles north to visit my parents for the Martin Luther King weekend. The storm was on the Friday into Saturday. When I woke up Saturday we could just see the roof of my car. The state couldn't keep the highways clear because of strong winds blowing snow back over roads that had already been plowed. It took 3 tries for a plow to navigate my parents' rural road. It was finally safe enough to head home the Tuesday after the storm.

Every municipality in the area had problems with snow removal. Not just Chicago.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 08:05 PM
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50. Thank you for the correction!
I forgot about Bilandic.

I'm not from Chicago, so please accept my apologies.

I am from a rural area in the Lake Michigan snow belt. There is a section of my parent's road that is usually impassible in blizzards. It turns into one big drift. When the snow finally stops, the county has to send in its ultra-heavy truck and plow combintion called the "Oshkosh." You know you're in trouble if even the Oshkosh can't get through.
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skorpo Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 12:42 AM
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53. No apology needed.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:41 PM
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21. How woudl you propose they plow streets that are 3-1/4 cars wide with parked cars on both sides?
That's the case in many rowhouse neighborhoods. And in older parts of the city it is even narrower. How would you propose they push 30" of snow one full block and not destroy the parked cars in the process?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:10 PM
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24. I Would Propose They Do it
the same way they do it all over the country, and on streets that were plowed the first day. It is not a question of infeasibility.

The city got buried and it is bound to take extra time to respond. Instead of doing that, the city government is simply shrugging and deciding to do nothing for the duration. Which is this case is likely to be at least ten days. That is not a legitimate government response.

There are narrow streets like the ones you describe, and there is a logistical issue with those streets. But street widths alternate, and they are often adjacent to roads that are more than twice as wide. Neither type is getting plowed. It is a question of indifference, bad management, and unaccountability.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:19 PM
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26. You sound just like E. J. Pipkin.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:36 PM
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28. I Don't Know Who EJ Pipken Is
Unless you live here and need to deal with the city, you have just not experienced the indifference or incompetence of the city government.

There are plenty of blamers and complainers on this board. I am the polar opposite of those except on this issue. It has to be experienced.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:41 PM
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29. I was on Randall and Race today, trying to get to Heath Street.
I know all about South Baltimore.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:25 PM
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40. Bobcats. n/t
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:09 PM
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33. BULLSHIT!
Government doesn't work when you don't fund it.

Thanks to the fucking GOP (which you are fucking repeating their fucking meme), we don't have the money to make government work.

:mad:

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:25 PM
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39. I Am Not Repeating Anyone's Meme
How dare you use the grrrr smilie.

Without having a bit of first-hand knowledge, you are making baseless excuses for indefinisble behavior. Whether you know it or not, that reinforces the teabaggers agenda by supporting the notiong that this is all one can expect from government.

Government doesn't work if it's not held accountable. If this were a private corporation, you and and a lot of other people would be calling for heads to roll and things would change. That is why people falsely assume that government doesn't work and has to be replaced by private corporations.

The Baltimore City government is indifferent, incompetent, and completely unaccountable. That is not true of any other place I have lived in New Jersey, Connecticut, North Carolina, or Ohio. It is an outlier, and believe me, it creates anti-government sentiment by the boatload.

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:48 PM
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6. awful weather here, too-- 55F and sunny...
...but I was hoping for closer to 60F. Ahhhhh....

North Coast, California.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:50 PM
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9. You are a mean man mike_c. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Oh well...At least they do not have earthquakes in Baltimore. LOLOL.....or do they?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:43 PM
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22. Oh blow it out yer shortz!
:)
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:46 PM
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30. what WAS that warm breeze emanating from my shorties, masked ranger...?
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 05:46 PM by mike_c
:rofl:
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:48 PM
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7. Run!!!!!!!!!!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:54 PM
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13. lol
:rofl:
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:27 PM
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41. Yeah, run to the store and grab the milk and bread before it's all gone.
You haven't seen mass panic until you've seen DC just before a snowstorm.

The city and the surrounding suburbs are so unprepared for this amount of snow. By the time the new storm stops, we'll be designated as a disaster area. No kidding.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 08:51 PM
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51. Grocery stores in DC look like the locusts have descended
upon them.... not too great in the suburbs, either.
We went shopping last Wednesday, early and the toilet paper aisle was completely ravaged!
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 08:56 PM
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52. I have to go tomorrow.
I'll take what I can get to last me until Saturday. I may even have to cook from scratch!

The thought of no TP, however, is horrifying! I hope that there was plenty of kleenex left. It is a worthy substitute.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:51 PM
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10. hey, if Ya Don't Like the Snow Just Send it Up Here in MA
Boston specifically
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:53 PM
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12. Its funny that the 12 plus zone only includes Bmore and DC
Like its a secret society.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:01 PM
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15. God's will
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:28 PM
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17. Or nearest to water
Regan National got 18inches, and Dulles got 31 inches..Regan sits next to the Potomac..
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:32 PM
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42. I've heard that Philadelphia and New York are supposed to get the brunt of this storm
At least that is what the local news says. We'll see, but I for one, thinks the DC area has had enough snow for this winter. This storm will most likely make it the snowiest winter on record, and it is only the beginning of February. We are at #3 already, at least for DC.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:36 PM
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44. Yea, I saw another map that showed Central Jersey and NYC getting 12-18
Everywhere else getting at most 6-12 inches
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:30 PM
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18. In other news the City Council of Buffalo announced it was annexing VA,DC,MD,DE,NJ,PA,and NY
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:32 PM
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19. I'm in Newark DE and the NWS is saying 10-18 for us on top of our
already 25". The local paper sent out a notice today to tell people to check on and shovel off any flat roofs they have on their properties or businesses and to clear snow away from vents, etc.

Being a good neighbor paid off this last time. Hubby shoveled about 20 houses when we had that 6" of fluff last week (actually took the shovel with him when he walked the dog). We came out yesterday morning to find that someone had taken a snowblower to a major part of our sidewalks, plus a neighbor on an ATV w/ a snow plow attached was plowing out the ends of people's driveways.

Public Service Announcement time - check on your neighbors, pick up something from the store if they need it, take a dinner over to them, make sure they have heat, shovel for them if they have a hard time doing it themselves. I know some of our elderly neighbors may need a grocery or drug store run before tomorrow evening.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:35 PM
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20. The Weather Channel isn't in sync with local Met folks.
NewsChannel 8 just said 10 for the DC Metro area. No 6's to be found. Twenty inches northeast of town toward Baltimore.

I'm waiting to find out if Metro is running above ground tomorrow. Word expected around 6 pm.

I think that Wednesday will be a disaster, and Thursday will look like Sunday.

I might not get to work until Friday. Or Saturday. Or next week.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:13 PM
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25. Hmm, perhaps we won't get snow afterall. I live right in between the two areas of CT
that look like they will get snow. The kids want to go sledding but I don't want to shovel! }(
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:38 PM
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45. Hee, we dodged a bullet last week out here!
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:52 PM
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31. El Nio......
gotta love an El Nio year!!


We here in the desert SW are grateful for every drop we get....sorry it all heads east to dump more on you guys.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:11 PM
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34. It's winter.. Snow used to "happen" a lot
We got spoiled by all the mild winters in a row..and now it;s payback time :)
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:13 PM
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35. Obama and Hillary never should have attended that prayer breakfast.
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 06:14 PM by rocktivity
Now we know what God REALLY thinks of The Family!

:evilgrin: (if you'll pardon the smiley)
rocktivity
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 08:01 PM
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48. DC area DUers: there is a Metro service update for Tuesday.
I found it on the Washington Post website.

Above ground service will be available except on the Red Line. Apparently, track conditions in Montgomery County are hideous

There is a little more bus service, but again, Montgomery County has little service.

No word on when Metro will close Tuesday evening. I suspect that they will close sooner than they did on Friday, considering the fact that no snowfall will be melting when it hits the ground. This time, almost all the snow will be hitting snow or ice, and all of it is likely to stick.

I just called in to work to let them know that I will not be in tomorrow, again.

I don't expect to see the office until Friday, at the earliest.
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