Anybody who uses the word "highfalutin" in a debate has lost me

[tularetom]

Although I'm pretty lowfalutin myself it seems like such a transparent attempt to be "just plain folks" that it makes me kind of ill. I don't want somebody from the cast of Hee Haw to be president of the US I would prefer somebody who sounds like they have a brain in their head.

[frankenforpres]

1. i disagree

at least edwards tried to give real answers

[Wetzelbill]

6. freakin' dupe

[Wetzelbill]

7. I'm a farm hick myself

and a well-read intelligent (humble too) one. I sometimes say hickish words too, that doesn't necessarily mean I'm dumb or that I am trying to be inauthentic. And I think that applies to Edwards too. He's a smart guy, but I think he's pretty authentic. 400 dollar haircuts or not, he's come a long way in his life. I think you're right.

[Bucky]

40. Shit, show me a farm boy who makes it good in this world and I'll show you an overpriced haircut

If I ever make me a million dollars, first thing I'd do is go out and get me a flat chested girlfriend just so I can buy her a boob job!

[Wetzelbill]

2. that's a "provocative" and "dichotomous" post.

:)

[rodeodance]

3. nothing wrong with that word in my book

[AlCzervik]

4. thats a bit pedantic.

[Canuckistanian]

5. Another poster said

He was expecting to hear the word "dagnabbit" any second...

[Wetzelbill]

9. personally I like "shucksdarnit"

but then again, I just made that up.

[mmonk]

27. I like darnamightyshoot.

[AlCzervik]

13. now that would have been hilarious.

[Matsubara]

8. Well, Dumbya gets away with crap like

"I'monna git in'er and smoke'em out". and all number of other faux-folksy expressions.

At least Edwards is actually from the south and has a real drawl.

BUSH IS FROM CONNECTICUT, Went to ANDOVER, YALE AND HARVARD. He had almost no accent before becoming governor of Texas, at which time he began impersonating a Texan, and his impersonation has gotten quirkier and more ridiculous with every passing year.

Him and his little fake, bought in 2000 movie-set ranch.

Why is a dem on this board ragging on Edwards for something so unbelievably trivial? Leave that shit to Candy Crowley. That's her job.

[Wetzelbill]

15. no, you're wrong

Bush is a real cowboy. He lives on a ranch. Clears brush. Is scared of horses. Probably couldn't lead a stick horse to water. A man's man. :)

[WinkyDink]

38. Oh, Bush is a man's man, all right. ;)

[TahitiNut]

16. It's the crowd that dreams of "up from the ground came a-bubbling crude."

Oil, that is. Iraqi tea. :evilgrin:

[msongs]

22. you mean the hollywood/NYC songwriting crowd that wrote that song? nt

[TahitiNut]

24. No, I mean the people who can't aim a shotgun and want to get rich without working.

In other words, Cheney/Bush. :shrug:

I said "dreams of" not "dreams up." I thought that was English. No?

[countmyvote4real]

21. Thank you for that, Matsubara.

It is very trivial.

[Canuckistanian]

30. Right you are

In the world of fake "down-homeliness", nobody touches Shrub.

[TahitiNut]

10. It clearly panders to the long-neck vote ... the pridefully ignorant.

As such, it's a waste. They're mostly Republicans ... at least the ones who don't hang around DU. :evilgrin:

[Bucky]

39. Geeze-Louse, TahitiNut. Do you have a list of acceptable idioms?

The English language is full of idioms. I use the phrase "hifalutin" all the time--and if you ever sat in on my history class you would by God know I don't cater to the pridefully ignorant (tho in person I do pronounce it "pradfly ig-nant"--but only cause us Southern boys give our classroom lectures with a wad o' chaw between the cheek and gum).

Sorry, but some people don't talk like they're from your part of the country (or like they're on TV and therefor not from any particular part of the country). That doesn't make us ignorant. That makes us colorful and interesting. ;)

[TahitiNut]

43. Maybe a better question would be whether someone you'd call "highfalutin'" ...

... can get a copy of a rule book containing what YOU think is acceptable vocabulary.

I think perhaps you've got things a bit backward here. I'm merely making an observation about folks who'd dismiss or demean others for the language they'd use. You are then trying to criticize me for supposedly making the criticism you're making of me??? That's strange. I don't really care about the TERM used - as I do about the meaning of the term. It demeans people for speaking intelligently and using a vocabulary that some folks don't bother acquiring.

Again, it's about attacking intellect and erudition - NOT about the terms used. I don't give a rat's ass about regional dialects and slang. I've used 'em all. (But shit, man, don't let the facts get in the way of defensively self-righteous indignation, no matter how misdirected.)

:eyes:

[Clark2008]

11. I didn't watch the debates - but let me guess who said that...

Edwards.

Am I right?

[Digit]

20. I think they meant Gravel....he said bejesus

goshdernit

[salin]

28. would love someone to tell those of us who didn't get to see it

who said it.

[BeyondGeography]

29. You're right n/t

[RoyGBiv]

12. Nice standard ...

At least Edwards has the background that would include such idioms. I see nothing wrong with him actually using them.

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. It's probably a word he grew up saying. I won't hold that against him, but

it is the kind of word the PSYCHO would use.

[AlCzervik]

17. that has way too many syllables for dimson. i can only imagine how he'd mangle it.

[Clark2008]

18. Well, seeing as how I was right about who said it - I have to

wonder...

According to the Southern definition of "hifallutin," Edwards would qualify. That house and those $400 haircuts are the epitome of "hifallutin." Not that I care about either, but it does add to my opinion that Edwards is a bit hypocritical.

[countmyvote4real]

32. Be real. They all qualify the definition.

I believe Edwards IS genuine. (Gravel and Kucinich also come to mind.) The rest are pure pol highfalutin pretenders.

[Blackhatjack]

34. Why continue to perpetuate a false impression about $400 haircuts, or is that all you got?

To politicians time is the great nonrenewable resource.

You would have to be living in a cave not to have heard him explain that having the stylist meet him rather than Edwards going to his salon saved him time and gave him the opportunity to spend that time talkin with people and supporters.

He also explained he did not know the costs in advance, and that he was charged by the stylist according to the amount of money the stylist could have made in his salon doing other jobs rather than leaving the salon to cut Edwards hair. Sounds fair to me.

He explained that it was erroneously billed to his campaign and because of that it was properly reported with his campaign reports. He has since paid for the haircuts out of his personal funds and the campaign accounts have been credited for those amounts expended.

So now you know the true story. Are you going to continue to use this line about $400 haircuts to perpetuate the myth that Edwards charged the $400 haircut to his campaign as if he does this on a regular basis?

(BTW Clark still not announced he is running for president yet?).

[tularetom]

26. it's a word my grandmother grew up saying too but that doesn't mean

I want a president who uses those words. My grandma was born in Alabama, spent all her adult life in Tennessee and never traveled more than 50 miles from home, never drove, did not have a TV, got through the 5th grade in school and read only the Bible. I loved her more than almost any human being I've ever known but I wouldn't want her to hold high political office.

[Honeycombe8]

19. I wouldn't disparage it too much. It worked for *, didn't it?

Who said that? (I just got home...I missed the whole thing!)

[karlrschneider]

23. I sometimes refer to the Middle East as "over yonder"

in casual discussion. But then I'm just an uneducated Okie.

[MannyGoldstein]

25. Nuthin' Highfalutin' 'Bout A 28,000 Sq. Ft. House

And four hunna' dolla' haircuts.

(The needle on my phoney meter just bent from slamming to the right too hard)

[Blackhatjack]

37. You need to get your facts straight on both accounts... and fix your phoney meter at the same time!

Edwards does not own a 28,000 sq ft house, and the county tax records back that up.

The $400 haircut has been used to perpetuate a myth about Edwards. See my reply above in this thread. He explained what happened.

Edwards is the most genuine candidate in the field. Your phoney meter is just phoney.

[MannyGoldstein]

41. Do You Have A Link On The House?

I'd like to know if I'm misquoting the size of Casa Mother Teresa.

As to the haircut - it is what it is.

[Blackhatjack]

44. Here is your link... and the haircut issue is perpetuating a false impression

http://gis.co.orange.nc.us/land/queries/Building.asp?PIN=9768257495

Orange County Land Records Data
Building Information Page

Summary | GIS Map | Buildings | Documents | Property Addresses | Prior Owners

PIN#: 9768257495 TOWNSHIP#: 7 TRACT#: 733451
Property Owner:
EDWARDS JOHN
& ELIZABETH Owner's Mailing Address:
P O BOX 148B
CARY
NC27512
Legal Description:
N/S SR 1005


Assessed Building Value: $3101577
Assessment Method: RESIDENTIAL Year Built: 2005
Total Rooms(Excludes Baths & Utility): 10 Total Bedrooms: 5
Style: CONVENTIONAL Story: 10 Total Fireplaces: 1
Total ESTIMATED Square Feet: 10778
Total Bathrooms: 6.5
Building Description: 10 F RES (10-1 Story, 20-2 Story, F-FRAME, M-MASON, ETC.)

AND regarding his 'haircut' he explained it was mistakenly charged to the campaign and properly reported on his campaign finance reports because it was charged there. He reimbursed the campaign out of his personal funds for the total costs.

The amount was calculated by the hair stylist as to what other jobs he could have done if he had not left his salon to cut Edwards' hair, and Edwards has no idea of the cost in advance. It was arranged to save Edwards the time he would have had to expend going out to have his hair cut in a salon. Time is the nonrenewable resource political candidates do not have enough of.

So now you know the true story. Are you going to continue to perpetuate the false impression regarding the size of the Edwards home and his $400 haircut?

[JVS]

31. No way. If highfalutin was good enough for the Communist Manifesto translation...

that I read as a kid, it's totally acceptable terminology.

[babylonsister]

33. Anyone who uses the word 'highfalutin' to start a thread has

gained my respect! And 'lowfalutin', you've started a new word!

And for the record, I LOVE that word! How many people don't even know what it means? :think:

[countmyvote4real]

35. Anybody who would...

consider appointing former secretary of state James Baker to be special envoy to the Middle East peace process if elected president, has lost me even before the debates.

I respect Richardson's experience, but this was a signal to me that he is very much a part of the Bush/Clinton cabal.

[Bucky]

36. Wait a minute! I use the word hifalutin' all the time. And if'n you don't like it....

you can kiss my grits!

[Blashyrkh]

42. But that alienates 80% of the country.

[Orangepeel]

45. nice to know you base your vote on the important things.

Me, I vote based on height. :-)