Saxby Chambliss: Gay soldiers would present an "unacceptable risk" to the military's high standards

[marmar]

:freak:



Who Was Today's Bigger DADT Hearings Dumbass: Saxby Chambliss Or John McCain?



If Missouri's Sen. Claire McCaskill was the star of today's Don't Ask Don't hearings (and boy, was she), then its sorest loser has to be Georgia's Sen. Saxby Chambliss, for his lovely equation where banning homosexuality in the military equals banning drug abuse in the military.

The military, Chambliss said while addressing Sec. Gates and Adm. Mullen, "must maintain policies that exclude persons whose presence in the armed forces would create unacceptable risk to the armed forces' high standards of morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion." And "the presence in the armed forces of persons who demonstrate a propensity or intent to engage in homosexual acts would very likely create an unacceptable risk to those high standards." Which is why letting gays serve openly in the military would, of course, lead to the snowball effect of permitting "alcohol use, adultery, fraternization, and body art."

All of which, like homosexuals serving in the military, we're pretty sure are happening anyhow.

Meanwhile, if Chambliss isn't your favorite hack from today's hearings, how about Sen. John McCain? He told Chris Matthews on MSNBC in August 2006, "I understand the opposition to (DADT), and I’ve had these debates, the day that the leadership of the military comes to me and says 'Senator, I think we ought to change the policy, then I think we ought to consider changing it.'" Wasn't that part of what today was all about? Then why was he arguing: "Our men and women in uniform are fighting two wars, guarding the frontlines against a global terrorist enemy, serving and sacrificing on battlefields far from home, and working to rebuild and reform the force after more than eight years of conflict. At this moment of immense hardship for our armed services, we should not be seeking to overturn the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy."



Read more: http://www.queerty.com/who-was-todays-bigger-dadt-hearings-dumbass-saxby-chambliss-or-john-mccain-20100202/#ixzz0eRHFIkyd

[usregimechange]

1. I can't even speak...

:spray: :rofl:

[wtmusic]

2. We can't have soldiers getting into body art

:scared:

[LiberalFighter]

25. How long has he been out of the loop? Or should the question be...

how long has he been loopy?

[Retrograde]

30. aren't sailors supposed to get tatoos?

Many ex-sailors - including my grandfather - got tatoos while in the Navy: it seemed to be the thing to do. Is Saxby opposed to this time-honored tradition?

[Xipe Totec]

3. alcohol use, adultery, fraternization, and body art...

Which, of course, are unheard of in our modern heterosexual military...

Yes, our soldiers are teetotaling, emasculated Ken dolls, with not a freckle to mar their perfect skin.

[gratuitous]

4. Based on his extensive military record, no doubt

Tell us all about it, Saxby.

[DefenseLawyer]

5. Five student deferments and a bad knee kept poor Saxby from having to serve with teh gay in Nam.

What a jerkoff.

[GreenPartyVoter]

15. +1000

[JBoy]

6. This from the guy behind the disgusting attack ads on Max Cleland, and who got 5 deferments

during the Vietnam war.

[CBHagman]

7. The same Saxby Chambliss had no problem...

...with besmirching the good name of a man who actually served in the military, Max Cleland, when S.C. wanted that Senate seat. Shame on those in Georgia who inflicted Chambliss on the rest of the country.

And may I say it takes a particular cheek for Chambliss to harangue the highest-ranking military officer about DADT. But then I guess it shouldn't surprise us.

[baldguy]

8. From Wikipedia:

"During the Vietnam War, Chambliss received five student deferments and was also given a medical deferment (1-Y) for bad knees due to a football injury."

[krispos42]

35. He managed to exceed "Five-Deferrment Dick", eh?

:rofl:

[4lbs]

9. Gee, the Spartans certainly didn't have a problem with homosexuality.

They allowed, and encouraged it among their soldiers.

It didn't seem to cause issues of unit cohesion, morale, and discipline.

The Spartans were just one of the most feared, fiercest, and strongest fighting forces that ever existed. That's all. Nothing major.

[brewens]

10. Five student deferments and one medical deferment for knees

from a football injury during Vietnam. I'm guessing he didn't keep his mouth shut about the knee, hoping to make it through the physical anyway.
Chicken hawks that wouldn't serve, trying to keep gay people out. Seriously fucked up.

[Raineyb]

11. But Neo-Nazis, felons, and rapists don't?

Saxby Chambliss is a dumb ass.

[Mendocino]

12. question: What does Saxby know about the military?

answer: How to avoid serving in it.

[Historic NY]

29. exactly.

[Iggo]

13. "...alcohol use, adultery, fraternization, and body art."

This is the military we're talking about here, right?

[PDJane]

14. Of course he's been ignoring rape,

torture and wanton killing.....that's manly, I guess.

I'm sorry, these people give me heartburn. I'm a Canadian, and our soldiers are allowed to marry a same sex partner..and some have done so. I find the whole argument assinine.

[Iggo]

16. It is asinine.

And it would be fucking hilarious if it wasn't true.

[Yurovsky]

17. Yes, yes, the "gays", always a threat to national security...

how about Saxby get off his fat ass and VOLUNTEER to pick up a gun and fight in Iraq or Afghanistan? Just because he was far too disabled to fight in SE Asia doesn't mean he hasn't had time to recover from his serious football injurie, no?

Patch him up and ship his ass off to take the place of the next gay servicemember who gets hounded out of the service. Bet that'll change his fucking tune...

[bullwinkle428]

18. He should be shutting the fuck up about ANYTHING related to

the military, given what he did to Max Cleland back in the 2002 campaign! :mad:

[The Gunslinger]

19. Body art?

Yea, No soldier has any tattoos.

[JNelson6563]

20. What a stinky pantload.

People like him make me wish there was a hell.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

21. But Skinheads in the military are A.O.K.?

:wtf:

What about all of those waivers the military had to give to just to meet recruiting standards over the past few years?

How exactly has kicking out a bunch of arabic translators out of the military made our country safer?

Any journalists care to do some hard-hitting follow-up questions to idiots like Chambliss, McCain, et. al?

[aikoaiko]

22. How I wish we could get a good Democrat to run and win against Saxby

Someday....

[Danger Mouse]

23. You stay classy, Saxby.

:puke:

[iamjoy]

24. I Still Don't Understand How

I think some people have this stereotype of gays as men who are very effeminate. Well, some gay men are like that (some straight men are like that) but those types of guys (regardless of orientation) probably don't join the military. I heard a report that women (lesbians) are disproportionately affected by DADT. Speaking of stereotypes...

I also think some people have this idea that gays are obsessed with sex (that's all "they" think about.) Well, heck, that describes most young straight men! Anyway, when we get right down to it, homophobics are the ones obsessed with sex.

I don't think repealing DADT is going to change the type of person (gay or straight) who joins the military. The military values "tradition" and "cohesion" - it's "macho." The type of person who voluntarily joins the military is comfortable with or even craves regimen. They are also courageous, disciplined, patriotic, proud and tough. Race, gender, creed and orientation are not as important as these other characteristics. Besides, just because gays will no longer feel the need to hide who they are doesn't mean they'll feel the need to brag about either. I would think there would be a lot of peer pressure on gays to remain closeted. The military and people in it aren't going to change overnight just because the codes were modernized.

[jmowreader]

26. Dear Saxby

Army Regulation 670-1, Chapter 1-8e (the Army tattoo policy) has been modified by message number All Army Activities 017/2006, which reads in part, "tattoos are now permitted on the hands and back of the neck if they are not extremist, indecent, sexist or racist. Any tattoo or brand anywhere on the head or face is prohibited except for permanent make-up. Female personnel may wear permanent eyeliner, eyebrows and makeup applied to fill in lips. Permanent make-up shall be conservative and compliment the uniform and complexion in both style and color and will not be trendy." The old policy was, no tattoo visible when the soldier was wearing the Class A uniform (the one that looks like a suit) was authorized.

And I just read Army Regulation 600-85, the Army Substance Abuse Program, once again and I STILL can't find a prohibition on drinking. Rather, Army Regulation 215-1, Chapter 10 is entitled "Alcoholic Beverages." Let us now turn to page 86 in this regulation and read paragraph 103: Alcohol consumption locations. "The following categories of alcoholic beverages may be consumed or purchased as follows..." It even tells you how to set up a minibar in an Armed Forces Recreation Center hotel room. (AR 215-1 is pretty wild--it even tells you how to run a campground. Some bases have them.)

[Terra Alta]

27. Saxby Chambliss presents an unacceptable risk to humanity.

I will NEVER forgive him for what he did to Max Cleland in 2002!:mad: Chambliss is scum to me...

[dsc]

28. Well given his years of military experience we really should listen to him

no wait, he doesn't have years of military experience, never mind.

[Zoeisright]

31. The World: Saxby Chambliss presents an "unacceptable risk"

to life on earth.

What a disgusting little tool. He's an ignorant and cruel bigot. But then, so are all repukes.

[donheld]

32. Chambliss knows no shame

If I was him I'd be very very quiet when it comes to this kind of stuff.

[Skittles]

33. as much as I dislike McCain, at least he fucking served

hearing a chickenhawk like Chambliss act as if he know anything at all about the military is nauseating beyond belief

[Ardent15]

34. Fuck you, Saxby "Chickenhawk" Chambliss. nt

[JeffR]

36. Against some very stiff competition

Chambliss is absolutely the biggest doorknob in the Senate.

[EFerrari]

37. What kind of high standard can our military be said to have

when they force our troops to lie as a condition of their service?

F both Chambliss and McBomb.

[Caliman73]

38. True.

Do those idiots think that because gay and lesbian service members are forced to hide their sexual orientation that it somehow makes them different? All it does is adds stress to an already stressful situation. Talk about a lack of unit cohesion. You have to trust these people with your life and you have to lie to them about such a major aspect of your life at the same time. I wouldn't care what race, gender, or sexual orientation a person was as long as they shot on target and were cool under fire. Damn homophobes!!