Is there a thread for the Senate debate over the Iraq conference report?

[bigtree]

Strange to have it going down and no visible discussion here. Good statements from our side. Patty Murray was just speaking . C-Span 2

Lieberman's snivling right now . . .

[TwilightGardener]

1. Was wondering that myself...

[bigtree]

9. vote at 12:45

:kick:

[maddezmom]

2. I didn't see any

watching Lieberman now :eyes:

[bigtree]

3. I'm really not going to be good at holding up a thread

but, here we are . . .

Lieberman . . . what a shithead.

[maddezmom]

4. he's got all the talking points down

[TwilightGardener]

5. Let us know if anyone says anything good. Or stupid.

[bigtree]

7. I can't understand a word Lieberman's saying

with his lips locked onto Bush's butt

[JanLip]

6. We have our reason for IMPEACHMENT on C-Span 2!!

Lieberman is giving Bush a BLOW JOB! He's sucking right now! LOL

[whistle]

8. I'm watching C-Span2 on line right now and Lieberman is on spreading the Bush lies

...using the Ever-ready strategy to keep the Iraq war going and going and going.

[whistle]

10. Lieberman now has been talking for 17 minutes and it's all been bullshit

[whistle]

12. Going for 18 minutes and counting

[maddezmom]

13. and keeps asking for more time

where is the hook? Get him off now!

[whistle]

14. Lieberman just talked for 19mins and 49secs and said nothing

...all propaganda and lies

[TwilightGardener]

11. The latest talking point, which Joe espoused in a WaPo editorial

and which Petraeus is pounding on, is that the main problem in Iraq is Al Qaeda, NOT civil war. Who knows what to believe anymore?

[whistle]

15. Durbin is saying it like it is right now

...the transcript of his talk is well worth reading

[bigtree]

16. he spoke of the casualties first

good for him

[whistle]

17. Inhofe is mumbling statistics from the Commanders which are bullshit

[bigtree]

18. Kennedy up now

[maddezmom]

19. standing up for Harry Reid again

glad this guy is on our side :D

[bigtree]

20. speaking of the lives lost

speaking of Vietnam:

'Fighting a war long after the American public knows it's failed.'

[whistle]

21. Kennedy up now, presidents make mistakes and this president (Bush)

...has failed and will fail if he vetoes the funding bill

[whistle]

22. Isakson just said terrorists want to take away America's Constitution

...and Bill of Rights....WOW!

[bigtree]

23. Cardin: We need to get our soldiers out of the middle of the civil war

[whistle]

24. Menendez (D-NJ) made a great presentation in 4 mins what a contrast

...to Lieberman's rambling on for almost 20 mins

[bigtree]

25. talked about the funds which go to the troops which Bush is set to turn down.

Nice photos to go with his presentation.

[whistle]

26. Grassly talking now and just saying nothing about the bill, mostly

...on a nostalgia trip...is he going to vote for the bill or not? DK....talking about the minimum wage bill that was passed ran out the clock on his time

[bigtree]

27. Jim Webb

talking about accusations of defeatism:

"Surrender to whom? We won this war years ago"

[whistle]

28. Jim Webb (D-VA) just said "we won this war 4 years ago" so we

...are now discussing ending the occupation. We have already won the war!

[bigtree]

29. giving a history lesson

very interesting

[Schema Thing]

52. Not to be overly proud of myself, but...

Webb confirms my instincts on this one; I mentioned framing the issue this way just last week.

We won "the war" (such as it was). Now let's talk about our policy wrt the middle east, and oh, btw, let's get our military out of harms way to the greatest extent possible.

[bigtree]

30. Frickin Hatch comparing the bill to enabling Hitler

idiot

[whistle]

31. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) just asked American's to turn away from our resolve

...to solve our domestic issues and turn our attention to resolve the BIGGER issues abroad. Now he is comparing Iraq War to WW II....holy shit! Quoting Winston Churchill....zzzzzzzzzz

[bigtree]

32. attacking Reid now

should be an interesting response to this tripe

[bigtree]

33. Schumer for four

Schumer:

"Only Bush and his small band of advisers think we should stay the course . . . everyone knows we need a change in direction, except for Bush and his small band of advisers . . ."

[whistle]

34. He made great points but could not finish and he did not request that the

...balance of his statement (looked like a couple of additional pages) to be added to the record. I wonder if that means the whole statement won't appear?

[whistle]

35. Bond (R-Missouri) just said that victory means leaving Iraq safe and stable

....sounds like we'll be there for a 100 years based on repukes

[bigtree]

36. Bond reading a newspaper article

I've got a couple of my own I want him to respond to

[whistle]

38. What time will the senate vote on the bill

[whistle]

37. Trent Lott (R-Miss) old helmet hair is standing up in his camel hair sports coat

...these repukes have done well for themselves while in office

[bigtree]

39. I've kicked this as far as I could

pathetic participation. fucking don't understand this place we call Democratic U. sometimes.

[TwilightGardener]

40. You have done well, my DU warrior! Let it go where it will...

[whistle]

41. I agree vote is coming up and C-Span will rebroadcast this debate

...so I recommend this highly partisan pre-vote discussion be watched in its entirety

[youthere]

42. Jack Reed up now.

[youthere]

43. DON"T FORGET TO RECOMMEND THIS THREAD PEOPLE!

[TwilightGardener]

46. Rec'd!

[youthere]

48. Thanks!

[youthere]

44. Cochran up now railing about "delaying equipment in life and death situations"

[TwilightGardener]

47. No veto, or a veto-proof majority, and no delay--problem solved, GOPers!

[youthere]

45. Inouye (D/HI) up now.

[sinkingfeeling]

49. You need to change the heading to **Official Senate Debate Thread**'

[youthere]

51. I imagine the edit time has past, so the OP can't ...

maybe I can start a second thread linked to this one..

[youthere]

50. McConnel ranting now...

Claiming there is no "choice" in the bill.

[TwilightGardener]

53. Does this have a binding or non-binding timetable?

[youthere]

54. SECOND THREAD HERE:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x759981

I hope I didn't step on your toes bigtree...

[TwilightGardener]

55. I'm sure Bigtree wants someone to take it over!