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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 07:45 AM
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Will YOUR child or grandchild fight in bush's war?
Edited on Thu Apr-26-07 08:13 AM by Philosoraptor
I know that we casually call the soldiers kids, our children, etc., they are grown men and women, but they literally are our own sons and daughters and grand children. Many thousands are there now, many thousands more died there, and many, many thousands were crippled there.

Will YOUR child or grandchild fight in bush's war?

Will it go on for several more months, or years, or..........decades?

How long will this crazy nation allow this bullshit?

Kin I gitta REC?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 07:49 AM
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1. I call them Kids because I love them
And when I was still serving no one fucked with my kids but me.

I appreciate this post. Back in 2002, my brother in law, a bush and war supporter thought that going to Iraq was the thing to do. His son was in the eighth grade at the time. Of course, no way he'll serve, that's for other people's kids to do.

I also chuckle at an old line from limbaugh who railed about people calling the Troops "kids." A man who knows absolutely nothing of camaraderie or the price and joy of leadership, the opportunity to help a young man or woman develop into a future leader; the right to call them and care for them as "Kids." He can only be employed when the job involves hate and lies.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 07:52 AM
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3. My bush voting brother's daughter is going any day now.
She joined the army to get an education, now she'll be driving a supply truck in Iraq.

Don't build an oil rig in MY backyard, and don't send MY kid to Iraq.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:18 AM
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37. So are 2 of my cousins.
Both joined the Army right out of high school. One's in the Special Forces & one's in Airborne school & will ship out to Iraq any day now. I pray for their safety.

My daughters are 5 & 3, so in response to the orignial question: I certainly hope not!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 07:51 AM
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2. Odds are it won't run for decades
It should end right now, of course. But my guess it will be a big issue in 2008, a Democrat will win and will pull troops out by 2010. I could be wrong, but that's my best guess.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 07:58 AM
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4. My Son Will NOT!
My son is 18; he graduated from high school last year.

He is having the usual problems for many his age in Bush's America ... Should he go to college? Go to a tech school? Work and save money for another year?

Yesterday, we were briefly discussing his choices and the idea of joining the Army came up -- he made it very clear what he and his friends think: As long as Bush is in charge, you'd have to be a damn fool to join the U.S. military.

That answers the question. And it tells us all how Bush has betrayed and weakened our country. Frankly, impeachment would be too good for Bush and Cheney ... they deserve the same fate as Noreiga, Milosevic, etc.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 08:00 AM
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5. I talked my 1st son out of joining during the 1st bush war
And my youngest son is 23, he damn sure ain't goin'.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 08:11 AM
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6. HELL NO, He won't go-I will personally escort him out of the country if necessary nt
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 08:36 AM
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39. Same here! nt
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 08:12 AM
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7. Hell FUCK NO!!
My son turns 12 in May. I write letters to the editor. I vote. I write my representatives. I send money to candidates.

All of that is motivated by the fact if the neocons continue to have their way WE WILL HAVE A DRAFT, and my son is not going to kill or be killed for some neocon, ideologue, war profiteers.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 08:19 AM
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8. No effin' way
My sons will not serve for lies. * cannot have them for fodder.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 08:25 AM
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9. Have mercy on our soldiers you heartless son of a bitch!
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Na Gael Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 08:29 AM
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10. My wife and I:
We made a concious decision not to have children.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:13 AM
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12. Welcome to DU
You'll find there are many Child-Free here (I'm one of them). My children won't be going as I don't have children and won't have any.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 08:31 AM
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11. No,not a chance
and neither will my future son-in-law..this is a war for corporate profits.
A war for oil.This war has absolutely nothing to do with our national security and thank goodness Americans that supported this war in the past have finally seen the light.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:58 AM
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13. ...............
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:07 AM
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14. I see you a "k", and raise you an "r."
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Progressive_In_NC Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:13 AM
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15. I really do think that my grandkids will be in the rockies and Alaska holding off the Chinese
Edited on Thu Apr-26-07 10:13 AM by Progressive_In_NC
We are not allowing ourselves to pump our oil. China passes us this year as the world's worst polluter and they are sucking oil out of every hole in the ground there is at tank point (see Darfur). The only oil that they won't have extracted in 50 years will be the oil in the US.

By the time my grandkids are able to fight, I fear it will be the spread of the Chinese Empire. Bush will be gone and his wars will be forgotten (like Vietnam is to the kids today).

But the drums of war march on.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:23 AM
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16. I have a boat load of granddaughters that are now or soon will be
of military age. I, also, have three sons-in-law, all ex-military, that are Bushies all the way. Two of those sons-in-law's children are too young right now but the other one has been encouraging his kids to join up. I told them all flat out that if any one of those kids tried to join up during the reign of King George the Terrible I would personally kidnap the "child" and drag them off to Canada. Period. If they want to prosecute me, so be it but those kids will not die for a punk ass wannabe's Oil War.

I haven't heard much lately about the military being a career choice and they just pretend they didn't vote for Chucklenuts - twice. They are enjoying the current rash of selective amnesia that is affecting so many repugs right now.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 01:35 PM
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17. ................
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:08 PM
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18. My 19 year old is as opposed to it as I am.
He's told me that under no circumstances will he serve.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:09 PM
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19. ALL those serving in Iraq are my kin. ALL of them.
I refuse to support the disintegration of the human family.

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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:20 PM
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20. Will probably end up child free
But as for my beloved niecelet (who is 2-1/2), I will drag her red-headed person to Canada myself before I let her fight in a war for profit that will have been going on 20 years at that point.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:01 PM
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21. Hell no.
I'll take my son out of this country before I let the military get their hands on him.

I don't know how long the morons among us will stand for this but I won't take chances with my child's life.

Julie
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:06 PM
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22. I Don't Have Kids
...but I have many friends who do and family members who do. Absofuckinglutely not.

...and if we had a draft, like we did during Viet Nam, when I was also a protester, they still wouldn't go, even if I had to pay their way to Canada or somewhere else. I would never ever encourage my child to kill or be killed.
Lee
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:17 PM
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23. But but but
The kids must be DRAFTED in order to wake up Joe and Jane Repuke!

Or, the kids must be DRAFTED because they won't do anything about this war until they start dying! (Ummmm... they are.)

:sarcasm:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 08:40 AM
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40. Don't you just love those that say that here? Makes me so mad!
:grr:
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:49 PM
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24. no freaking way.
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:49 PM
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25. Over my dead body.
I helped walk my 18 year old through the CO documentation. My 26 year old is beyond the draft age, at least I think he is. His daughter, my granddaughter is almost 3, and I am raising her to be an activist (yes, already), so the war machine will not get her! You can't believe the crap I went through when my 18 year old was 15-17. These recruiters are truly slime. :puke:
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 05:15 PM
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26. No! No! No! No Way! I have 2 sons and a daughter
all are young adults (18,22,24). They are all registered Democrats (yeah!)and against Bush and his wars.
If there were a draft I would personally take them out of the country.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 05:18 PM
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27. Some of the "kids" are, unlike in most previous wars, parents already.
My son (10 yo) will NOT fight this godforsaken maniacal war, no way.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 05:22 PM
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28. Over my dead body.
Of course; that will probably be true,but you know what I mean.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 05:52 PM
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29. OMDB is becoming the text message of the revolution.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 06:05 PM
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30. Good one.
Very good one.

Still love the screen name, btw.
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 06:15 PM
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31. I don't know about that -
I'm 21 and due to a medical condition it would be risky for me to have kids of my own, but if I do end up having children and this damn war is still going on, you can be damn sure I'll do my best to keep them the hell away. I have a sixteen-year-old brother who I'm a little worried about (during the summers he works for a hardcore Republican - nice guy, but definitely a Bushie, listens to Rush Limbaugh on the radio, etc.), but I expressed my concerns to my mom a while back and she said that she had a talk with my brother about the war. He says he would consider going to war if it was a WWII scenario or something, but he knows that this war was based on lies, and even if it's still going on by the time he's 18 he's going to stay away. He's a smart kid - I hope he stays that way when the recruiters start trying to work their magic on him.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 06:18 PM
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32. They're taking 18 yr. olds and 55 yr. olds.
And if we were attacked again and a draft re-instated, every able bodied person in that age group would be eligible.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 04:49 AM
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33. ..............
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 05:41 AM
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34. Someone's kids will fight in the next war
As long as we spend even half of what we we do on the military, and continue to have a standing military, and have interests to protect, there will be enough war to go around, no matter who sits in the White House.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 08:30 AM
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35. ................
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:12 AM
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36. I have 3 soon to be four sons. The oldest is 3, the others are twins 14 months.
Its amazing how your feelings can change after kids. Having my first son really helped waken me into politics not for me but for his future.

Its crazy to me that this little person who seems to have been part of my life forever has never been around during a time were weren't fighting in Iraq, just seems like a very long time.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 08:29 AM
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38. ..............
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 10:33 AM
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41. Doesn't matter -- It's gonna take a draft to stop this mess
Murkans are complacent because this is a volunteer military. Once it starts getting mandatory, then folks will really care.
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