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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:24 PM
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We have an OBLIGATION to fire on trial balloons.
If this spending freeze nonsense is a trial balloon then we have an obligation to shoot it down.

It makes no sense to take a wait-and-see attitude when someone is asking you for your input.

At this point the WH is forced to do something like what was put out there (would look too weak otherwise) but the details are not set.

Bitching is correct. Bitching is the only power we have (albeit tiny) to let the WH know that this is really not okay.

And if everyone on the net pitches an epic fit then maybe they will pull back a little.

So please don't anyone say that bitching about this hurts the President. Bitching is a process of trying to save the President (and everyone else) from a seriously F'd up policy.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:27 PM
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1. Agreed.
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 09:28 PM by Marr
That "wait and see" bullshit is ridiculous. Always was.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:29 PM
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2. To the Greatest.
:thumbsup:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:34 PM
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3. You're right. We always have an obligation to speak up for our issues.
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 09:34 PM by TexasObserver
He works for me, I don't work for him.

I don't like the job he's doing.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:35 PM
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4. I agree 100%. Thank you, Kurt_and_Hunter. Rec. nt
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:37 PM
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5. Ah yes, but the celestials can't bear to hear such things.
In their chorus, there can be no discordant notes.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:40 PM
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6. This one needs to explode like the Hindenburg
If Obama goes through with this then I am so done.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:41 PM
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7. I totally agree. The Dems have this year ALONE to do something and, again, this is NOT it!
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 09:43 PM by slay
Argh! WTF! Ok look Dems - Dennis Kucinich is about to show ya how it's done. It's about JOBS ya dingbats! Not healthcare (a priority, but they've already screwed that up royally), not Afghanistan, not budgets. It's about jobs! It's about survival now thanks to the rich bank fuckers - many people are losing everything - and there are no jobs to be had!

Show um how it's done Dennis! --> Kucinich To Announce Program To Add A Million New Jobs: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

And he is just ONE Dem house member! Get it together Dems. Do they not ever read progressive blogs? Argh!

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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:44 PM
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8. kicked and rec'd
When Obama is wrong, he deserves to be called out on it. Just because he has a (D) after his name doesn't mean he is above criticism. And he is dead wrong about this.

I hope Obama listens to those who put him into office, and decides to get rid of this horrible policy.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:10 PM
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12. love your avatar
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:15 PM
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14. thank you!
Rachel is awesome.. and also happens to be one of my heroes.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:47 PM
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9. I'm ready to bitch and bitch loudly about this spending cut bullshit
but I suspect that it's no trial balloon.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:52 PM
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11. I agree, but there are details
This thing will be proposed, no doubt, but there may be details in play.

One the other hand...

Matt Yglesias said that he felt that progressive bloggers like him were on the conference call specifically to ensure a firestorm on the left, Sister Souljah style, so he didn't want to give them the satisfaction.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:48 PM
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10. That's why they're called trial balloons.
Evidently, some of the sycophants don't get that.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:14 PM
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13. K&R
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:18 PM
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15. KNR
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:24 PM
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16. You are correct, my friend.
The cry that we should "wait for the speech" is ridiculous, since it is this very outcry that we may need to reverse or limit this (latest) lurch to appease the Republican right.

Thanks for stating it so clearly.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:36 PM
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17. they are stepping all over their own messages -- count me in the bitch session
are you "fighting" for the middle class? or, pandering to teabaggers who wouldn't vote for you if their life depended on it?

are you going to avert a double-dip recession with a real jobs program? or, pandering to teabaggers by promising to end "welfare as we know it"?
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galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:17 PM
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18. What is with ALL the trial balloons though!! seems like 2 a week....n/t
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