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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:10 PM
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on Rachel NOW
Jared Bernstein sounds like lying used-car salesman on spending freeze!


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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:11 PM
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1. He is a Yes Man.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:12 PM
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2. Is he going to try and sell me a Shamwow?
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:12 PM
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3. Rachel is pummeling this slick talking huckster
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:16 PM
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6. She kicks so much ass!

pow pow!
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:13 PM
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4. so true
discretionary spending freeze except for Defense,Homeland Security and State. What a crock. Rachel's right: it's stupid and it smacks of Herbert Hoover. Yet the middle class won't be hurt....

My disgust with Obama grows daily
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:16 PM
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5. Rachel knows when she sees lying saleman...lol
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:18 PM
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7. I thought the person was a repuke when I heard him--was away from the set, didn't
see the name--this is BIDEN's econ advisor? un-fricken-believable.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:22 PM
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9. He was horrible and couldn't lie enough before scratching himself..lol
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:20 PM
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8. Rachel hasn't always been right
She even compared the proposed spending freeze to what McCain proposed. And even after the difference was explained, she kept grinding her ax.

I've differed with this administration on a number of issues but I also like to get more information before setting my opinion in stone. Looks like Rachel came to the discussion with a fragment of information and wasn't prepared to listen to new details.

She talked about Economics 101. It sounds like she needs to go back to Journalism 101 tonight.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:28 PM
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10. Oh pleeeeeeeeeeze!
Maybe you need to go toe-to-toe with a Rhodes Scholar?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:46 PM
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13. She led her Republican guest right to the threshhold of agreeing with her
And then he disagreed. She asked McKinnon that of course Republicans would not go along with Obama - Right?!.

But he said that there would be agreement because a freeze is consistent with conservative ideals.

Oooops. I guess the Rhodes scholar tripped.

Look, I don't know the details of the proposal and neither do you. I'm just going to hold my powder until I learn more. I find it convenient to know more before I leap into snark and rage. And I reserve the right to disagree with people I hold in esteem, including Obama and Rachel.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:56 PM
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16. you should count the ways how you trip around on a job interviews...n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:07 PM
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17. I've been retired since 1999...
I did pretty well because I never tripped during a job interview. My investigating skills were appreciated for the better part of 30 years and then I retired.

Conducting investigations helped teach me to gather facts before I make a final decision. You might try it yourself.

Please take the last word if you need that. I'm done with your silliness. Good night.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:12 PM
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18. Good night to you too....good riddance on your retirement..n/t
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:31 PM
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11. You're right. It's a McCain-lite spending freeze.
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 08:31 PM by neverforget
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:50 PM
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15. Care to share all the details that made you come to that conclusion?
Or are you only capable of snark and run?

C'mon smarty pants. Give with a compare and contrast since you're so sure.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:14 PM
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19. sorry i wasn't right here waiting for your reply. smarty pants? how old are you?
Barring all the crap you just spewed at me, a spending freeze in a recession is never a good idea. Do you think Democrats are going to rally around this? A 3 year spending freeze? Spending freeze! One of our new rallying cries! It's a gimmick. The military gets everything they want. The rest of us get to pay the bill. Evan Bayh and Bill Nelson are thrilled. When the DLC is happy, watch your wallet.

So I did a simple Google search and look what I found from March 24, 2009:
Grassley Proposes Insane 3 Year Spending Freeze
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) has been on a roll recently. In the last few weeks, he suggested that AIG executives commit suicide, advocated lying about comparative effectiveness research and electronic medical records, and is now pushing an insane, debilitating spending freeze as a response to our economic ills:

What you get when you have an across-the-board freeze is everybody is seen as contributing something, Mr. Grassley saidadding that a three-year freeze would produce a more dramatic effect. Over a period of time, theres something predictable about a freeze, and over a period of time it makes a big differenceThe multiplier effect of freezing something for three years is very dramatic.

As Paul Krugman wrote regarding a spending freeze, thats not a retrogression to Herbert Hoover; even Hoover knew better than that. David Brooks agreed, calling such a move insane.

A freeze would have the dramatic effect of providing dangerous anti-stimulus at the precise moment when stimulus is needed most. Its a shame that this policy prescription is coming from Grassley, who can be so reasonable when not engaging in crazy rhetoric.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:41 PM
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12. It IS MCCAINS SPENDING FREEZE.. that is why she compared it..take the rose colored glasses off,
will you pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee!!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:47 PM
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14. See my reply #13 above
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 08:47 PM by eleny
:hi:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:18 PM
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20. it was all over my news here in Fla after they announced Obama will be here the day after SOTU
it was a bigger story than Obama coming here..
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