Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Was Obama more deliberate than we thought?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:46 PM
Original message
Was Obama more deliberate than we thought?
For some time, we have been wondering why Obama seemed so accommodating to the corporations. Has he been this way all along because he knew the campaign finance laws were to change so sadly, and so unamerican-ly as they did? Has he been kissing ass, so that THEY would re-elect him no matter what happens between now and then?

If this is true, he would have been the last man elected the old, democratic, former constitutional way, and the first man to be elected under the no limit laws. He has made and will make even more history than we thought.

If this is true, oh my God, oh my God,

OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:48 PM
Response to Original message
1. Take a few deep breaths
There there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:49 PM
Response to Original message
2. During some of my darker moments, I think that I've been totally punked.
No fool like an old fool. :(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Say what you mean.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
3. I don't think so. Obama is DLC, and DLC loves corporations
DLCers like to "sweeten" things to appeal to Democrats (social issues) so they can freely carry out their the repuke-lite corporate policies
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:53 PM
Response to Original message
5. I don't think that's it.
I don't think he has been trying specifically to be accommodating to corporations.

He has been trying to be accommodating to *everyone*. I think he truly believes (or believed) that he could bring different people (and different interests) together for the common good. Naive? Maybe. But the American people were hungry for someone who actually was a uniter not a divider.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. Skinner... do you talk with other major players... including other
blog/forum administrators? If so, do they largely share your sense of things?

I can take the "well-meaning, yet naive'" argument quite a ways to explain the seemingly inexplicable. But, after awhile, wouldn't a politician who came through the "rough & tumble world" of Chicago politics (not to mention his time on the Hill) have shifted gears--at least privately-- to a more hard-ball approach?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #10
18. I don't have much contact with any major players or bloggers.
As for whether they agree with me? Who knows. I find many of their opinions perplexing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. That made me lol. Neither would I. (contact with major players) I have enough in my own little life
I cannot imagine running this site and, well, living.

I think President Obama has been less than what I'd hoped on many issues, however, I agree that he clearly believes he could appeal to the best in each person's humanity and get people to work together, especially since he knew them for years in the Senate - I believe though he knows NOW that too many on the Right will not play nicely and really could care less about the suffering going on in this country.

Thanks for at least commenting from time to time, I'm sure you read posts but don't comment all the time, but it's nice to know that you're still here. LOL... Some say you're a DLC-Bot or whatever. I think they've got into Michelle Bachmann's medications.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. Well SKinner, I want to believe that!
I believed it till last week. But Democracy is going out the door, been pushed by the SCOTUS. I'll try to remain positive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #11
24. SCOTUS surely has been quite alarming with their decisions. I can only hope we get to replace
a few more, because like you, I believe Democracy truly is in jeopardy because of the very ruling they ruled 5-4 upon.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:55 PM
Response to Original message
6. If you consider his use of the earthquake machine and HAARP...
then it gets really scary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. CHEMTRAILS!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #6
19. Tectonic weaponry - fully deployable if we wish to
Knock a nation to its knees, while other experts say these earthquakes are accidentally induced when the HAARP installation is udsed for its tomography functions (Searching for oil and minerals, etc)

Here are two very interesting vids to watch:

Begich is here and Agnew also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhJfkh0e3l0&feature=yout...
*********************************************************
YouTube Tectonic weapons used as blackmail tool?
Researcher who says Taiwanese satellites detected a 50% drop in electric activity right before a major quake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcHPAR_5TEc
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. LOL
Now tell us about the chemtrails.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. So HAARP does not exist?
And the patents that protected that information till it was sold to USA government (And now to British, I believe) are just made up scientific nonsense?

Yeah right.

So what do the Big Players use for their tomographic explorations, then?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Sure, HAARP exists.
But it doesn't cause earthquakes.

It doesn't cause hurricanes.

It doesn't cause the Loch Ness Monster.

And it doesn't cause people to laugh at you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #22
26. Oh here's a nice bit of information about seeding the sky with reflective particles
Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 02:03 PM by truedelphi
To avoid global over heating - (That is science jargon for chemtrails)

Concerns how Bill Gates is not only aware of this technology but is spending mega bucks to be involved!

http://blogs.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2010/01/bill...

It is a shame that all these people interested in the geo engineering aspect missed the reports on how the amount of air plane flights needed for these campaigns create more pollution than what is mitigated through the cloud seeding.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:58 PM
Response to Original message
7. Seriously? "oh my God, oh my God, OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!"
You left off the !!11!11!!11
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:58 PM
Response to Original message
9. You have got to be fucking kidding me?
:wtf:

He's "other"....so please know that he is really a
double enemy agent working for the corporations and
will destroy America as we know it.

I mean Clinton was just peachy wasn't he,
compared to this shifty foreign looking dude.

I'm so tired of people posting here
with their nonsense Theories pulled straight out of their asses,
I don't what to do anymore.






Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. Given the OP's fondness for David Icke...
That "other" might be referring to the Lizard People.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. FrenchieCat, don't be like that.
I was throwing out some ideas that I don't want to believe. It was a question not a definite. IF was heavy in my post.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. "oh my God, oh my God, OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!" -- ideas?!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. What makes him a conspiracy,
and makes Bill Clinton such a bubba?

You tell me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #9
25. I've got an idea what you can do!
ignore politics and do the RHUMBA!!! It's far less stressful. :party:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:03 PM
Response to Original message
14. Yes, its all an elaborate chess game.
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 05:06 PM by undeterred
This is the most tiresome argument one hears at Democratic Underground.

Now he's going to start to pretend he is against the Corporations and for the people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Well, I tell ya what,
Excuse the friggin' moose mustard outta me! OR...go to another discussion!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Sep 16th 2014, 02:41 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC