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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:31 AM
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Bye bye Bayh?

Election 2010: Indiana Senate
Indiana Senate 2010: Pence (R) 47%, Bayh (D) 44%
Monday, January 25, 2010


Indiana Senator Evan Bayh is another Democratic incumbent who could find himself in a tough reelection battle this fall. A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters in the state finds that Bayh attracts support from just 44% or 45% of voters when matched against his top potential Republican challengers.

Congressman Mike Pence is reportedly considering running against Bayh. At this time, he attracts 47% of the vote while Bayh picks up 44%.

A former Republican congressman, John Hostettler, has already indicated he will challenge Bayh. In that match-up, its Bayh with a three-point edge, 44% to 41%.

Freshman State Senator Marlin Stutzman has announced that he is in the race. He trails the incumbent by 12 points, 45% to 33%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics...

It's Rasmussen, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was more or less accurate.
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:37 AM
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1. I wouldn't vote for any of the three of them
I am committed to helping oust Bayh, but if I voted for Pence or Hostettler, I would need to BE committed.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:40 AM
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2. Anyone Challenging Bayh In The Primaries?
Oust him at your peril...I'm sure you know what a shitstain Pence is and putting him in the Senate would make that fetid swamp even worse.
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:42 AM
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3. He does not have a "strong" challenger as of yet
But for all the good he has done for Indiana, there ain't all that much difference between Bayh and Pence. I know, I know, spare me the lecture....there ain't much difference.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:49 AM
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4. If You Say So...
It's your vote and choice...and respected for being so, but letting a scumbag like Pence get into the Senate and then entrench himself that would make it hard to get rid of him may make you think back someday that there was a difference. Sometimes one shit sandwich has a better smell than another one...

Cheers...
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:21 PM
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18. Yes
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:52 AM
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5. If the choice is between Bayh and Pence
I will hold my nose and vote for Bayh, the (barely) less of two evils.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:02 AM
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7. Same here. If Bayh has competition in the primary I will vote for his opponent.
I want the best candidate to win the primary even if it is Bayh.

It is my hope that

1) he runs scared because the primary results are closer than he expected even if by a wide margin.
2) he wins by a smaller margin than in previous elections.
3) he made to realize that he needs to be more like his father.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:00 AM
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6. I had this discussion with my family and a few Indiana Democratic
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 11:05 AM by izzybeans
party activists, some of which are family.

They want a primary fight badly but no one is stepping up. Their biggest fear, beyond their justified complaints about Bayh's capitulation to Republicans, is the fact that no one (in that group) believes he is going to win. The lesson from Massachusetts for them is that only a real progressive candidate that can clearly distinguish themselves from the Republicans will be competitive in this race. Bayh's been riding daddy's coattails for a long time. The ride may be ending.

Even my grandmother plans on writing in a candidate. She feels if the state winds up with Pence that Bayh has no one to blame but himself.


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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:04 AM
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8. The reason why he is losing the ride on the coattails is because
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 11:05 AM by LiberalFighter
he hasn't demonstrated why he is qualified to be Senator. I don't know of any worthwhile legislation that he has pushed through.

If he had any guts and energy he could be a good Senator.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:05 AM
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9. That's exactly the sentiment I've been hearing.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:42 AM
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12. I disagree...
He has demonstrated that is qualified to be a senator...a Republican senator, that is.

I find myself in a bit of a dilemma. I wrote him when he was pushing the flag-burning amendment to let him know that I would never vote for him again.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:14 AM
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10. Good riddance. n/t
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:51 AM
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13. Do you know anything about Mike Pence?
If you did I don't think that would be your position. Unless you think that since Bayh isn't liberal enough we would be better off with an ultra right wing fundamentalist crackpot. If that's your view then yes, good riddance.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:02 PM
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16. He's a fucking right-wing nutter,,,,but he'll vote republican just like Bayh...
...
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:07 PM
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17. Check Bayh's voting record
He talks conservative way more than he votes conservative. Don't get me wrong, he's a tool, but his voting record isn't anything like what Mike Fucking Pence would have. I understand frustration, but no, you don't want Mike Pence in the Senate.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:18 AM
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11. Has anyone polled a hypothetical liberal in the primary? nt
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:57 AM
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14. They probably haven't because they figure Bayh is a shoo in for the primary.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:51 PM
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19. He is, because establishment corporate dems will leap to his defense
including President Barack Obama.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:00 PM
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15. I think Bayh is popular enough with Indiana Dems, but not with independents.
Bayh probably could win any primary challenge, but will have tough sledding with the center-right independents in Indiana.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:52 PM
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20. Senator Pence
and we think Bayh is bad.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jul/09072407.html

"Today the House of Representatives rejected the Pence Amendment to defund Planned Parenthood, the nation's largest abortion provider, by a vote of 183 to 247. Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) had submitted the amendment to an HHS appropriations bill that stated, "None of the funds made available under this Act shall be available to Planned Parenthood for any purpose under Title X of the Public Health Services Act." "



But some on DU seem to be happy because they just KNOW that Bayh ALWAYS votes like a Republican

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/b00...
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