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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:56 PM
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Obama Did NOT Cut A Deal To Reduce Social Security Or Medicare. He Established A Commission.
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 06:57 PM by KittyWampus
Why some DU'ers insist on asserting otherwise as a statement of fact is beyond me. But doing so is not intellectually honest.

When you rely on intentionally inflammatory headlines or state something as a fact which has not actually happened, you are destroying the capacity for the Left to even fight for what we believe in.

If you don't want this Commission to consider cutting entitlements or whatever THEN STATE THAT. But don't assert that it's already been a done deed. It is not.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:57 PM
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1. what's a cimmission? n/t
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:59 PM
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4. You couldn't figure out an obvious typo from the context? BTW, I fixed it before you even managed
your usual snide crap.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:58 PM
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2. More TeaBagger Disinformation - Agreed
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 06:59 PM by FreakinDJ
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:59 PM
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3. What is the objective of the Commission?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:00 PM
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6. Tell you what, why don't you start a thread on it? I started this thread to address
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 07:01 PM by KittyWampus
misinformation that is being and has been presented on DU lately.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:06 PM
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11. I just read some.
I honestly didn't know.

An 18 member panel will make recommendations on how to reduce the debt. They will be looking at entitlements and social services (and possibly recommending cuts to those programs). 15 of the 18 have to agree to make specific cuts to be recommended.

It could be bad, but it will be mostly Dems. It will need two repugs on to make changes. We'll see how it turns out. Hopefully, any cuts or reductions will be on the bureaucratic side and not on the side of those that depend on these services.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:04 PM
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9. To determine if SS and Medicare benefits should go up, go down
or stay the same? Get real America for slimy-green-spam had already suggested benefits could be lowered to pay for junior's tax cuts. :P
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:00 PM
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5. It's a time bomb set to go off after the midterms....
Just in time for the Republican congress purchased by the new influx of Corporate money.

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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:01 PM
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7. 'fraid you are correct.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:08 PM
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15. Off topic, but when does the Supreme Court ruling take effect?
Will Congress be sold to the highest bidder this fall or later?

(I know, I know. It already is, but it will be more overt and with bigger bucks.)
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:12 PM
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16. Unless they state a time frame, it's immediate....
If it involves executive action, it's required to be taken with due diligence.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:39 PM
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21. Bingo
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:03 PM
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8. I just want to know one thing. Where's the comission on Military spending?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:07 PM
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13. +1 Where's the Military Spending Reform Bill?
Where are the Town Halls for that?

:shrug:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:05 PM
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10. True or false, Obama has stated he wants to deal with the increasing
amount of money entitlements cost the government?

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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:35 PM
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20. Doesn't everyone? That is not synonymous with "cutting benefits."
For that matter, you could even "deal with" it by, say, eliminating the Social Security payroll tax cap.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:06 PM
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12. Is this another one of those "bipartisan commissions"?
You know... like the Warren Commission. Or the 9/11 Commission?

If so, nothing good can come of it, just like nothing good came from those two jokes.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:07 PM
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14. C'mon. How stupid do you think people are?
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 07:09 PM by Marr
This commission is guaranteed an up or down vote on it's recommendations... which won't be revealed until AFTER the elections. No ammendments allowed.

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together ought to know what that means. Even if Obama hadn't just spent a year constructing an insurance handout bill and trying not to get his fingerprints on it, like a man building a ship in a bottle... it'd still be obvious. With his recent record, it's a blinking fucking neon sign.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:14 PM
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18. +1 And with today's Supreme Court ruling....
Three guesses on what kind of Congress will make that vote. First two guesses don't count.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:13 PM
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17. Can't you agree something has to be done with SS and Medicare?
They will have a Commission study it and make recommendations. Didn't they do it back in the Reagan years, something has to be done either they raise retirement age and or raise the contribution ceiling. I don't think it will affect anyone that is already receiving the benefits just future retires. Since Congress has totally f----d up any chance for health-care reform maybe our life expectancy will drop therefore that would cut costs. :sarcasm:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:44 PM
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22. Yes. We should lower the age for Medicare and full Social Security benefits.

End the tax cap on Social Security. That will take care of the funding for Social Security until the early part of next century.

And tax the rich and Wall Street transactions to boost Medicare funding.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:19 PM
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19. kick
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:44 PM
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23. k&r
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:47 PM
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24. The thing about that whole misleading
article is he hasn't even established a commission. He had a MEETING about establishing a commission.
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