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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:27 PM
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Was the MA Senate vote a referendum on Dem leadership?
If so, what message should they take away from it?
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:28 PM
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1. NO.


Coakley was up by more than 20 points a few days ago, this was just a badly run campaign
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:28 PM
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2. Yes
create jobs and lots of 'em as fast as you can.

run and govern left--HARD left, as HARD left as the repigs have run hard right.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:29 PM
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3. No!
It was a referendum on her campaign. And incompetence.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:29 PM
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4. corporate-based change is not what we sought.
Except Rahm knows better than the voters he pissed on so often.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:30 PM
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5. Dem leadership? There is no such thing,.
Hasn't been any since Howard Dean stepped down. :evilfrown:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:30 PM
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6. the Repukes & teabaggers will make it so, here comes Palin.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:30 PM
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7. the Repukes & teabaggers will make it so, here comes Palin.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:31 PM
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8. yup . . . voters expected change, got more of the same . . . n/t
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:31 PM
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9. Double no.
I saw this happen when the weak Shannon O'Brien lost the governorship to Mitt Romney.

Massachusettsans always like to balance their all-Dem legislature (which doesn't make it liberal) and all-Dem Congressional delegation with a Republican in high office. They've always made that office the governor's (Celluci, Romney). But for the first time since 1986, they have a Dem governor, too. So they sent the senate seat of Teddy Kennedy, which hadn't been open for 47 years, to a Republican. Stupid, but not surprising.

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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:33 PM
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10. the people demand a rightward shift
time for another corporate bailout, or four. maybe even a tax cut for the rich. hey!, maybe we can move a few million more jobs to some third world shit hole!

people love that stuff.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:36 PM
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11. Yes
Jobs are more important than Wall street to most rational people.

The administration forgot that the corporations dont vote.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:37 PM
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12. Just Shut Up (see link)
Just Shut Up!
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/01/just_...
Message of the day to all Dems, Coakley, Rahm, Celinda Lake, national Dem committees, Axelrod, whoever, whatever: Shut the *$%& Up! I don't know how else to say it. I'm watching MSNBC and hearing all the key players dumping on each other. As I've said, the Coakley campaign seems to have been run just terribly. And that's just the beginning of it. But really, with all that's at stake, the White House political office left this to Coakley, unsupervised? Really? I just have very little patience hearing all the people who are by definition all to blame have an argument about who's most to blame.

a bit more at the link.
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Norwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:40 PM
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13. It was the lack of any Dem leadership and that Coakley ran probably one of the worst campaigns ever
The Dems should have been a lot more aggressive getting what the country needs passed and not worrying about pissing off the right wingers! The Dems as a whole have sacrificed too much in the name of bipartisanship and are for the most part spineless and weak. The pukes will never ever ever ever try to work with the Dems so stop trying!

Still even after all that this race should not have been even close!! Really how the hell does a Democrat lose to a far right crazy like Brown in of all places fucking Massachusetts! What a sad excuse for a candidate....
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:48 PM
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17. losing to a guy who posed for playgirl?
i`m sure the state is going to be really proud of this tool in the coming years
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:43 PM
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14. YES!
work for our corporate oppressors and we will not show up to work for you.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:46 PM
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15. rahm needs to go and obama needs to grow a set...
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:47 PM
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16. NO. It's Martha Chokely's fault.
/nt
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:54 PM
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18. There are a couple of messages that leadership should take away from it.
1. Get off your asses and get shit done when you have a majority. You were given a mandate to move left and instead of moving left, you moved right and hem hawed around kissing Wall Street, bank, Lieberman and Nelson ass. Not a good idea.

2. Support Democratic candidates long before just the last fews days before election day. Duh, this one should have been obvious. Yet, the DSCC didn't know that for some odd fucked up reason.

3. Quit moving right. Voters can't tell a difference any more between the parties. Both are too busy kissing Wall Street's ass instead of thinking about Main Street. Voters just want change. Voters want jobs.

4. Quit dissing the Left. While courting the right and independents might seem like a good idea (not to me, though) on paper, in the real world, Republicans and Independents will.NOT.EVER.vote Democratic. The Left WILL vote Democratic. See how that works?

5. Wall Street, Republicans, and other conservatives are NOT your friends. The left are NOT your enemies.

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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:43 PM
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19. Yep. n/t
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