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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:04 PM
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News: $4,400/Yr. Coders May Work On Dept. of Labor Project
http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/01/15/153206/4400Yr-C...


"To power the Tools for America's Job Seekers Challenge, the US Department of Labor tapped IdeaScale, a subsidiary of Survey Analytics, which is headquartered in Seattle with satellite offices in Nasik, India and Auckland, NZ (PDF). According to the Federal Register (PDF), an Emergency OMB Review was requested to launch the joint initiative of the DOL, White House, and IdeaScale to help out unemployed US workers. A cached Monster.com ad seeks candidates to work on the development and maintenance of ideascale.com, but in India at an annual salary of Rs. 200,000 to 300,000 ($4,4000 to $6,600 US). BTW, an earlier White House-sponsored, IdeaScale-powered Open Government Brainstorm identified legalizing marijuana as one of the best ways to 'strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness.'"
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:15 PM
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1. In reading this, you would think that Bush was still in charge. n/t
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 05:16 PM by zalinda
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:21 PM
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3. That's pretty much a daily thing, isn't it? n/t
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:20 PM
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2. Tone deaf much?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:23 PM
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4. they are freaking OUTSOURCING the coding of S/W to help American Job Seekers find work?!?!?
F*CK THAT.

Soon the only work in this country will be menial labour which can't be outsourced. HIRE AMERICANS to do the coding.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 06:29 PM
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13. I don't think even Orwell imagined this level of irony.
I could be wrong.
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 08:06 PM
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17. No
we hired a Seattle company that has many more clients than the US Government, and they are outsourcing. Nothing in what was posted above says that they're being hired for the DOL project and for all we know they're hiring them for clients in India.

The founder of the company was born in India, but I believe he is a citizen of this country now. He lives in and his business (SurveyAnalytics) is in Seattle.

SurveyAnalytics created QuestionPro, Ideascale, Micropoll and some others.

I don't know why anyone takes everything at face value, the person who posted that at slashdot is obviously trying to outrage right-wingers with the little tidbit about legalizing marijuana.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:24 PM
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5. Well, it's all bullshit isn't it?
Job seekers don't need "tools", they need jobs.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:26 PM
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6. Same shit, different President.
:banghead:
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:26 PM
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7. knr. Perfect example of the disconnect with real US people. very sad.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:28 PM
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8. Get this to Rachel, et al, and to your representatives. The DOL!
Sheesh.
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 08:37 PM
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18. But it isn't even true.
The whole thing is bullshit if anyone would follow the links, they would know that. Sheesh is right! This place is a freaking joke anymore.

The company is a Seattle headquartered company, that has an office in India and NZ. The founder is Indian-American. He has more clients than just the government. The monster ad was not for the Dept. of Labor or the project that Ideascale was hired to do. We don't know what it's for, but it is from October which is one month before the DOL even submitted it's request to the OMB.

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-27697.pdf
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 09:03 PM
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19. Good advice, I hardly ever follow the links and end up making knee-jerk
reactions -- the same thing I "accuse" others of. I stand chastised.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:29 PM
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9. wow. that's some impressive irony. fucked up.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:40 PM
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10. OMGWTFBBQ. eom
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:46 PM
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11. Wow, works out to approximately $3.17 per hour
for a 40 hour week - are we supposed to be "competitive" with that?
Jeezus.
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 06:20 PM
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12. The Onion is going to go out of business.
You just can't make shit up that tops this reality we're living.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:12 PM
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14. New boss, same as the old boss. n/t
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:21 PM
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15. that's fucked up. n/t
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:40 PM
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16. That Monster ad doesn't mean
what you/they think it does.

Ideascale.com & QuestionPro are not only used by the government, and that ad doesn't say squat about them looking for workers for the DOL.

This is what the Monster ad says:

About Company

QuestionPro.com is a leading provider of online survey software. Please visit our site at http://www.questionpro.com for more information.


Job Description

Development work related to online application based websites (i.e. Software as a Service (SAAS) model).

Candidate must have 2-3 years working experience with the following technologies :
Java, JSP, Struts, Hibernate, MySQL, Linux, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, Apache Web Server, VI or Emacs (Linux text editors)

We are currently looking for candidates who can work on development / maintenance of the following sites :

http://www.questionpro.com
http://www.micropoll.com
http://www.ideascale.com
http://www.surveyconsole.com

Pay Scale : Rs. 2,00,000 - 3,00,000 / Year Depends upon candidates experience


It sucks that a company that we hired outsources, but that does not mean that they will be outsourcing the work they do for the government.


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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 09:03 PM
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20. Seems a bit disingenuous to me. "It's unfortunate the company we hired outsources, but they did
submit the best bid."

There's a lot of corps that outsource their responsibility that way. It's not their fault, it's the fault of the company they hired.

If it were important, they wouldn't have hired that company though, would they?
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 09:17 PM
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23. Actually,
after reading more about the company, I don't know if I would categorize it as outsourcing now. They're headquartered here, and they have offices in New Zealand and India.

Again, there is nothing in any of what was posted that says coders from India will be contracted for work on the DOL jobs project, other than what some guy at slashdot was trying to allude to with an old Monster.com job listing.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 09:17 PM
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22. but it doesn't mean they won't either; lots of other companies in this biz, that don't outsource n/t
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 09:20 PM
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24. It's an outdated
job listing for the companies office in India. The job listing was from before the DOL project was even submitted to OMB for approval.

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 09:13 PM
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21. Kick...
:kick:
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