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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:12 AM
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Here is what is going on in Mass. and why some posts are wrong on this:
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 07:18 AM by RBInMaine
The dynamics in Mass. are all about three main things: a) a rather bland Dem candidate who took the race or granted for too long while the opponent got out there and pressed the flesh; b) a very deep recession, NOT caused by Obama/Dems, that simply has a lot of people angry and frustrated and in a general kind of anti-incumbent/anti-incumbent party mood regardless of the incumbent party; c) an off-cycle election where an insurgent candidacy can gain traction in a reduced electorate; and electorates are almost ALWAYS reduced in off-cycle/special election environments, especially among Dems/Progressives who are almost ALWAYS less reliable than R's/Conservatives/Conservative-leaning. THIS is what is going on in Mass.: LOCAL dynamics during a deep economic recession. It is not a function of huge Dem party/liberal contempt of national level Dem/Obama policies. OVERALL, the nation is indeed MODERATE, and Prez elections and MANY other elections are decided by these swing voters, as happened in '06 and '08 out of anger with Bush/Cheney/R's. And GOVERNING with an opposition party and a diverse Dem caucus requires the kind of compromise that the very nation was founded upon. *** All said, the Dems are working the ground HARD right now in Mass., and I think they'll win it by a few points.

Further, progressives need to consider:

1) SCHIP, all kinds of green initiatives, Lilly Ledbetter law, working to close GITMO, new financial regs., a stimulus to save or create well over a million jobs, more stem cells, fewer choice restrictions, ... can you find ANYTHING there "progressive" enough?

2) Health reform is very, very difficult. It is very complex, and requires huge compromise in a big, ideologically diverse nation. Sorry, but that is the way it is. It is the idea to excise tax "Cadillac Plans" that has people up in arms. They are working to tweak that. The current pipe dream of single payer is nice and one I'd love to see, but even your obvious hero Kucinich says there is not enough of a national movement to accomplish that now. The health bill does many good things too, and it is just a START. You only see the negative, much like Eeyore as some say these days.

3) There are HUGE differences between D's/Obama and the likes of McConnell, Boehner, DeMint, Inhofe, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck..... So please get real.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:15 AM
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1. why do this? you know you can't call out a DUer this way.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:17 AM
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3. I thought he was a article contributor.(?) I'll change the title of my OP.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:17 AM
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2. ibtl
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:18 AM
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4. locking
Do not post messages with the purpose of "calling out" another member.
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