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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:36 PM
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babylonsister just posted a piece about Gingrich speaking to "hundreds of
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 09:38 PM by gateley
conservatives" in NC. He feels a positive swing toward Republicans and feels they'll do well in the mid-terms.

Here's my question:

Are we, the Dems, doing anything along those lines? Speaking to the base, getting the excitement going for the mid-terms?

They always seem to be so organized in their attacks. I don't feel that we are.

What do you think??

Here's the link to babylonsister's post http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7459948
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:38 PM
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1. what is there be excited about?
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 10:31 PM by FLAprogressive
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:40 PM
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4. Maybe getting more progressive Dems elected instead of a Rep? Just a thought. nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:01 PM
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11. And there it is -- how one one speak with one's thumb in one's mouth?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:39 PM
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2. It's much more fun being the insurgents than the establishment.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:02 PM
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12. One year in office makes us the establishment?
damn.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:56 PM
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24. No, Jan 20, 2009 made us the establishment. Sucks doesn't it.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:35 PM
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26. It would suck if I bought it.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 12:07 AM
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27. In the eyes of those out of power, we are now the establishment.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:40 PM
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3. we are supposed to be bipartisan & reach out to repubs... nt
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:42 PM
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5. "we" are too busy holding "warmonger" Obama's feet to the fire, yada yada yada
You're right, energy spent in the wrong directions.

Repubs don't seem to do that nearly so much as Dems.

And they love it, that's how they win.

K and R.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:03 PM
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13. A lot of Dems can't stand the success. We're better at whining than winning.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:33 PM
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17. Well put -- energy spent in the wrong directions. nt
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:49 PM
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22. Indeed.
Raging against whichever machine holds the reins, I guess. Or, "What're you rebelling against, Johnny?" "Whaddya got?"
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:43 PM
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6. Gingrich is a lonely pompous ass no doubt
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:45 PM
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7. No, we spend our energies throwing our potential leaders under the bus.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:47 PM
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8. a quick look at best selling 'non-fiction' (ahem, choke) last week on three sites...
scared the crap outta me. The GOP is out in force, winding up the base and getting them ready to march.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:50 PM
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9. It is a lot easier to throw rocks than to do something
constructive.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:01 PM
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10. Before you get all excited about their "brilliant" strategy ...
... you need to remember why they need to do this. It's necessary for them because the "teabaggers" have been threatening to leave the republican party to run their own candidates. This is a move of desperation by the republican party "establishment".
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:32 PM
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15. I'm not necessarily saying their strategy is brilliant, just that they're far better
organized than we appear to be. The Health Care express bus thing, the tea parties that they organized, bussing people to town hall meetings. Not that their tactics aren't smarmy, but we don't seem to have that knack to get people to show up and be involved.

Gingrich speaking is another example. Are there any big name, big-draw Dems doing such a thing? We should be.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:28 PM
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14. Nah nothing happening here, except Limpball's prophecy to wanting Obama to fail
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:32 PM
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16. I'm fired up about replacing every GD incumbent in 2010.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:35 PM
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19. And how do we do that? What speakers to we have coming to town and organizing
in order to help us feel we have a chance? We holler, blog, bitch but we need action. One by one doesn't seem to be enough. We do need a 'name' to get us energized. IMO, anyway.

I'd like to keep a few of them, though.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:48 PM
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21. "I'd like to keep a few of them, though."
That is what many voters say; don't wonder why things stay the same and little of nothing is done for the American people. Can't have CHANGE until the perpetrators are gone.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:54 PM
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23. I'd like to keep those whom we trust -- known quantities, rather than taking
a risk.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:14 PM
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25. Playing it safe will never produce change.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:35 PM
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18. LOL, and Rove said the Repubs would win the 2008 election...
Gingrich speaking to "hundreds" actually is quite pathetic, at one time he actually could command a real audience, no longer.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:47 PM
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20. I hope so!
The repukes are already going to be a little more motivated this time. They are in the minority. The Democratic Party is in a hard spot right now, as far as voter turn-out is concerned. Some of the Dem voters partied in 2008 and turned off their political conscience. They just tuned out and trusted Obama and the Dems, and are quite content. It will take effort to remind voters to get out and do it again (mainly the first time and young voters).

It is hard to run on a record after only one year. It takes time to see effects, and for voters to judge whether the efforts are working for them.

Dems need to keep up the work, but I think the tide is still with them. Even though Gingrich may be able to get hundreds of repukes in NC, Obama could still get thousands.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 01:27 AM
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28. Excellent points. nt
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