Fascism begins behind closed doors.

[undergroundpanther]

At home I grew up believing being humiliated yelled at and hit,basically abused was the way all families were.I never realized the abuse happened when outsiders to the family were present,to possibly object until I got older. When I got older I began to notice not every family was like mine,and families like mine tended to hide the ugliness putting on a facade,and it was only when the victims got together separated from the family did the truth be spoken.. Than I began to question what did I do to deserve all this shit? I couldn't find anything that bad to deserve the way I was treated.I began to struggle with the idea the people who raised me,who took care of me were not really good people. Every kid sees their parents as gods when they are really small.The kid is also aware that he depends on these parents for EVERYTHING. If said parent becomes abusive the child blames them self first.To survive. The republicans call liberals the"blame america first" crowd. Are we blaming ourselves or the abusers of our country? Or both.
Who deserves blame? Nobody but the fascist bullying people choosing to confuse us, exploit us, use our trust to screw us,and encourage us to perpetuate denial and this woeful cultural ignorance of the way psychopaths operate socially in relationships both big and impersonal and small and intimate..

As time passes and the abuser is away from the wounded person the survivor begins to see things differently .Tries to understand abuse.And they stop blaming themselves for the wrongdoing another person inflicted upon them. Abuse of power,it is not self caused,it is caused by the choices an abuser makes to hurt you and the spellbinding effects of words twisted to cause cognitive dissonance inside you..

There are excuses aplenty for the bad choices abusers make and their enablers "normalize" in this culture.Enablers rationalize abuse,deflect conversations or investigation away from WHO makes the choices to inflict traumas.

People made ignorant and still unacquainted with the wounds of trauma take the way of least challenge to their own introspection. They do this because introspection is not a feel good activity.They feel no need to bother. So desensitized and enabling people will project, they blame the victim, say it's normal for people to get hurt because they exist,dress a certain way, stand up for themselves,or be harmed while not causing others harm, or they might pity the abuser because he chooses to not control his mouth or actions.The people unscathed by trauma want to hold onto the feeling the world is fair safe,just and people deep down are good,they defend things that should not be tolerated.

This dynamic is caused by abuse being normalized in individuals,a lack of boundaries in a person's emotional life,home life .If unexamined these reactions and "habits" can lead to the social conditions that allow societies to create governments that are dysfunctional even to the point of fascist.

Bystanders feel shame after the fact because they realized they could have and should have done something..because of inactions caused by their own anxieties overwhelming them and a belief in their own impotence,they did nothing.And that's all it takes for evil to prevail, for good people to stand by and do nothing.And this shame can either become a skeleton in the closet to oppress them and slant their perceptions about abuse , or a mistake to learn from and not repeat again.

Abuse enablers are still terrified to defy the abuser because they fear they may be the next victim and their shame and situation drives them to cover ass for abusers in ways that defy logic...Like the lapdog American media.Do you think they are free to speak their minds, the politeness twords vile people might not be sincere as it appears..Did you know un-embedded (freelance)reporters in Iraq (even from mainstream foreign papers that report real news like the BBC) are getting shot at ,injured and killed,and intimidated threatened to shut up or else?


Terrified trapped people will enable because that's a survival mechanism one can use to spare ones ass during active abuse. But when there is no abuse happening to them it can be trauma residues, that become a way to deflect the cause of abuse away from the real cause:the abuser.

When the denial that abuse is abuse is rampant, it is a cultural imperative a boundary against abuse has been moved to allow for a decay in compassion , This is happening..when discussions about ugly deeds get ugly on-line or an ethical question is discussed and dismissed without serious consideration and nit picky excuses like grammar are ok reasons to dismiss a view this is a dynamic of enabling that is not helping anyone figure out the causes including the enabler ,it is a kind of intellectual and emotional cowardice being normalized by the group.And this excludes certain data from the equations of problems.This defensive blinder habit and rejection of the ideas outright and humiliation to the speaker for even bringing it up(accusations like tin foil or paranoid( invoking the cultural belief mentally ill people and their thoughts or observations must be stigmatized as not worth considering among REAL thinkers)..Stigmas protects the interests of the psychopaths among us..

And we as a culture still tolerate it.Because so many people have made enabling a normal way to relate about issues and speak to others about issues that could harm all of us.It hurts the survivors who do speak up about it and haven't got their confidence yet but KNOW something and could add something valuable to the discussion...This enabling person's ardent defenses of the intolerable abusers that are not endangering the enabler now is a defense mechanism that gets in the way of public honesty. In this way enablers are still victims still defending abusive people or systems..indirectly.

Victims who refuse the victim role,still suffer, still feel vulnerable,but unlike victim they want to understand the dynamics of abuse and learn to understand re-victimization to stop it,and know what manipulation is and won't tolerate more abuse they draw clear boundaries,and enforce them.

I think this is what people see in survivors and call strength. A survivor is past the victim stage, and as they grow in strength they will not keep secrets for abusers,they don't pretend abuse is not abuse, they will not by stand if they can help the situation somehow, even if they cannot defuse the abuser they help the wounded ,speak out or call police or something.

What makes a victim become a survivor is they find their own voices use them,and will not desensitize themselves for fear of what happened drives them to speak out,share and understand what went on to further inoculate themselves and inoculate others willing to empathize with survivors and not project or defend abusers,and so people who have not been traumatized can learn if they choose to by proxy about the machinations of toxic personalities and know the situation without being hurt by it.The net is an extraordinary tool to share ourselves with each other.

This is why some toxic people in government want to censor or shut down the net. The more sharing goes on the more the situation becomes clear, the muddied waters of usenet becomes the clear focused groups working in solidarity despite their differences intent to make change.

There are many ways abusive people intimidate society and try to silence trauma survivors and the psychiatric injured,and keep their warnings from reaching and teaching people about abuse and fascism and these relationship dynamics are NOT normal or healthy for anyone who cherishes democracy freedom or their own humanity no matter how safe,puffed up,important and appreciated the abusers with power make certain types of people with similar toxic personalities and similar drives to dominate as the leaders we have have at the moment..

I spent 18 months in nearly total isolation,I was let out a half hour 3 times a day to eat and into an"anteroom "connected to the isolation room to shower or hit the toilet under staff supervision.I was not allowed my own clothes but luckily my mom got me a long very full robe that zipped up and covered me I was allowed that.Hospital gowns show everything. I hated those gowns they made me feel humiliated constantly...

Yet I went though all this shit and I did no crime. I was treated like this in a "prestigious" private hospital,for my own good,because society tolerates these abuses if a person is declared"mentally ill" and the people do not have to SEE it and feel the victims pain.Than they won't have to empathize and so they can go on with their lives"untroubled".I lived through this because I was "a ward of the state" declared as such by a judge to get eligible for services, I just wanted out of my abusive home,I had to give up some rights as a citizen and human being to get help from people I hoped were not going to abuse me..how fucked up is that.Yet this kind of betrayal happens by our government because toxic people seek positions of power and are ruthless in their pursuit of control and being the gatekeepers of agencies or resources that are there to assist with meeting others needs..Controlling resources is one clear way to get power over others and psychopaths want to get control over resources like Iraqi oil and making groups like food not bombs stop feeding homeless people.Because that gives them social leverage to get away with abuse.

Now I am labeled "mentally ill"I am still in the system on an outpatient level. I was misdiagnosed as schizophrenic by a controlling doctor.I was given huge amounts of powerful drugs for YEARS before I got a new doctor who was not a psychopath who realized doing the same thing and expecting different results was harming me.And I began to recover.Once I was not being bullied.I have PSTD one of the few diagnosis acknowledged to be an injury caused by too much exposure to bullies , authoritarian personalities and socialized(or less than socialized) psychopaths. Bullies and authoritarians in institutions and government want to de-legitimize PSTD and trauma as a real problem..(psychiatric injuries) because it is these same toxic personalities who crave power and who create the victims that we as a culture controlled by toxic people tend to be taught to dislike and form ideas about that are not true.

Toxic rigid personalities the spectrum of psychopath,(socialized or not) authoritarian,narcissist are the very same kind of people who wish to convince society that victims of trauma that people cause,deserved it, asked for it or created their own suffering, or they are not really in pain,so the toxic people do everything they can to convince observers and professionals alike that people who display symptoms of PSTD are not wounded, they lie, and they have no right to resist'treatment' and must STOP feeling bad about what happened ..The toxic people try to twist words to say survivors have no right to disagree with the culturally prevailing worldview of the non-traumatized that life as it is, is OK as it is.Everyone has opportunities to succeed and if they try harder they will, and that government is not tyrannical yet,people are all good underneath etc..

(survivors who feel otherwise about all this are called "Sick" not Injured and aware of what kind of person hurt them.)

In the mental hospital some really do choose jobs like
psychiatrist,unit supervisor or orderly precisely because the mental hospital is a totalistic totalitarian environment. One of a few places like jail or juvenile detention where unlike the rest of the nation even the most basic human rights and dignities can be suspended in the name of"treatment"or"rehabilitation".A place where people who resist abuse can be made powerless and be abused and there is very little justice for people who are assumed crazy by our culture that stigmatizes "crazies" to avoid hearing our stories and pain. Society knee jerks in favor of denial of injustice and by discounting survivor stories..

Living in a bully tolerant culture(fascism) or household is like growing up and living in the stanford prison experiment,for all your days literally .

Abuse occurs IF even a few of the staff are there to get off on domination or psychologically abusing vulnerable powerless too trusting people.Because every bully creates a posse of people around them to tolerate and normalize abuse. Psychopaths will create a culture of dysfunction to keep their position of power unaccountable.


I have a very different attitude twords authoritarians and systems of control,borne out of bad experiences. I hate fascists and bullies and have stopped pitying them or trying to relate to them or say they are good because when I do that I am hurt by them. Sometime you gotta say ENOUGH!NO MORE tolerance for YOU asshole!

I am very wary of"professionals"of certain toxic personalities and I do not value them or what they say or do. I listen to my internal warnings.Back when I was 16 and I thought abuse was "normal"I tolerated way too much of it.I walked in to the hospital that would isolate me nearly to the point of no return ,innocent and trusting like a lamb,trusting the staff knew what to do to help me and they would not betray their humanity because it was a "helping" profession.


How many children were abused by priests and preachers because the parents were taught to believe churches were a 'sacred' place dedicated to moral goodness?

I was taught that doctors don't desire to harm patients.

I came out of that ordeal wiser,aware of the games bullies play and the social dynamics they feed on and create deliberately in other people to insulate themselves from accountability for what they say and do,and to dominate.

I came out of that 'expensive'hellhole full of righteous anger at the'systems' of control that are corrupted by certain personalities, I hate(and there are many)and an unquenchable hate of dominator type. I am as rebellious a wild tiger,and I am confident of my own strength and discernment to know when to spit in the fascist's eye,not afraid to go down defending my pride(non sociopaths,people who do not abuse power) like a lion.My story is my strength no matter how crazy others think I am as I express it on my body to remember my own power.

And had to learn when to acknowledge my mistakes and when to not back down until I am sure the mistake is my responsibility and that I am not being manipulated.I will not be pressured to own something that I did not do and I cannot tolerate.Bullies try that silencing tactically the time, they project,lie and manipulate others perceptions to favor their own agendas and sadly people do not see this dynamic clearly..and they go along with abusers so easy. It happens seamlessly if the people who have ethical standards are shunned out of the group and silenced by names like radical,moral prude,crazy or trouble maker.

Often the real troublemakers are not the people hurting or the people pissed off at the way things are, losing their"cool" at being insulted or devalued. It is the popular shallow people,of the group who add nothing but are "entertaining".This is the face of the fake powerful, the ones who have cool heads during times where everything is chaos,the glib superficial and entertaining social clique 'leaders'..but underneath that nice little mask they are cold,callous parasitic,predatory. Psychopaths are ruthless to people ho have an internal locus of control and ethical wisdom and courage They hate survivors who are onto their game..and they don't care who gets hurt when they get rid of the opposition to their rule of the roost.

If this attitude of mine offends psychopaths ,this anti authoritarianism and freedom loving and community defending habit of mine gets the "authorities" or abusers in a twist,when I call abuse what it IS, they might as well get used to it.Because it is true some people because of what they are, their personality core in of itself, really do enjoy abusing power inflicting harm and violating boundaries and trust,and live to create more victims,out of good people that are not as cold and ruthless as these bullies are causing this corruption,injustice, and messing up all the systems of power until they are distorted to allow abuse of power to go unpunished .This problem ranges all over society from homes on your street to the Whitehouse. This dysfunctional social phenomena occurs in every society (Even on DU)and every civilization that TOLERATES it.

A creep of ever closing cultures is happening that will lead right to fascism and domination by the most ruthless and bulling among us to get rid of people that will not tolerate the abuses fascism does.
A free open culture that is tolerating abuse erodes itself into a diseased closed relationship,to power.. This is another kind of abusive relationship like the batterer and victim but this one is held between the people and a government ,Through a sick relationship that taught the people to tolerate the intolerable . No spouse beater declares he gets off on beating his spouse senseless on the first date, so no government does fascist acts openly, it passes repugnant laws under cover of the dead of night.Batterers batter behind closed doors out of the public eye less chance of being held accountable for the despicable act if it's hidden away from the morally superior people who might interfere.

The more abuse and tolerance of the intolerable becomes the norm, the more kind of ethically questionable morally corrupted stuff in relationships that makes your conscience hurt, the more THAT shit is normalized in your own mind and tolerated as part of your life the less fascist governments (or institutions or relationships)will look diseased,dangerous and deadly the most evil things look to you when they are coming from afar to take over your life,close up the freedom,silence you when it's up close and personal and happening in someone else's backyard it isn't setting off internal alarms because you are desensitized you cannot hear them until the gulag is knocking on YOUR door...


As people we all need to learn to recognize sociopaths, the moral degenerates, what is ethical wrongdoing, Who and what causes traumas and we need to learn to resist the toxic influences of bad people. Especially when you are being manipulated,lied to, abused,corrupted,buttered up, life is good, and you are hurt reacting or and told to go along or shut up. To have your sensitivity on when you are attacked/socially smeared by the bullies that pretend to be'upstanding'abusers or else. We need to teach ourselves and others to see through and not admire the masks of abusers.Listen to those internal "red flags" and the troubling thoughts in your mind during sleepless nights and let nobody tell you your senses about issues of ethics or right and wrong or the bad feelings you get about a bad person are wrong if you are not a toxic person yourself.

Don't be scared to suspect there is tyranny from above .Especially when everyone else calls you'paranoid' It is strange how numb society becomes during the prosperous good times when things seem the safest. This good life makes us preoccupied with ourselves it tends to dull the person's attention to others,and senses about bad things and the bad times.

I think because people who feel positive like feeling the feelings of optimism and stability ,and almost like addicts to the opiates coursing through their pleasured brains they resent others who warn about coming bad changes during positive times. These sensitized people are seen as wet blankets killjoys and 'paranoids'and they are not taken seriously by most happy people wallowing in their own feel good hazes and prosperity of the moment.(like Barbara Bush's"beautiful mind" couldn't be troubled by Hurricane Katrina.)This sad tendency to blind ourselves to danger when things appear safe and well for ourselves is expressed in the poem, first they came for the jews but I was not jewish so I did nothing..The mentality of why should I risk my own comforts and joy to listen to downer news now? So to keep that illusion they don't t speak out. Good times and the desire to hold onto that good feeling is what keeps us blind to the threats to our well being,freedoms and society being done behind closed doors and under the averted public eye radar by corrupted toxic people we don't bother to question because too many of us are"contented" with the way things are..Now.


And until we who are not psychopaths realize we are most vulnerable when things in society are going good,and peace breaks out,and happiness comes,it is the same thing as when the abuser realizing his control is being recognized by the victim, The abuser tries to manipulate a feel good"change" to hold onto the victim after a beating almost went to far in an abusive relationship. It is like the appearance of a 'good' president,(Clinton)after a bad time(Reagan-Bush years) that we tell ourselves he helps us all prosper (even though some of Clinton's policies were bad and his cabinet had an adviser who followed the neocon philosopher Leo Strauss).

The thing about abuse in a relation it goes in cycles of good-times and bad wounding(we now have bush a dictator) (The "pendulum" swing from left to right).
As long as the majority of people refuse to acknowledge some people really are so alien from us, they are are so different they want positions of power and get them just to abuse others and get away with it.

We must form some clear social BOUNDARIES and enforce them on things like how we treat ourselves, how we let others treat us, and how we treat others how we treat the least among us.There needs to be limits on power and how it is used that will not tolerate abuse or abusive people's bullshit that leads an open culture to clamp down on freedom,even though some toxic people are terrified of being free and other people being free who are not harming people.We do not need to get thicker skins if we want to stop fascism.We need to be more sensitized and be more intolerant of the intolerable.We must isolate remove from power,and contain the corrupted personalities through ethical boundaries we enforce upon them,if they keep violating them we do whatever it takes to stop the people doing violations ignoring warnings to stop.. as if they are entitled to walk over others.

We as people need to learn to recognize and cease tolerating and enabling the toxic social effects of psychopaths among us and repair the damage upon the way our culture behaves to each other.IF we do not want fascism. We need to defend Orr right to have freedom from abusers and the abuses they do.
Read more..about what we are up against.
http://www.bullyonline.org/
http://ponerology.blogspot.com/

[melody]

1. Great post -- thanks for making it

I second your recommendation of bullyonline.org -- it's a great resource.

[ThomCat]

2. A lot of good, important points.

Kick and recommend. :)