Freepers Confused Over Libby's Trial, LOL!

[K8-EEE]

It's funny how the Faux Misinformation Channel that makes up the main source of their "knowledge" just doesn't seem to prepare them to make any sense of events, when there's testimony, oaths etc. involved instead of propaganda & rumors. THEY'RE SO CONFUSED! Check it out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1775616/posts

went over to the mediabloggers link and found this:

Fleischer begins by explaining the duties of the WH press spokesperson: “talking to the press, both formally and informally” and communicating with them in a variety of ways, ... Fleischer is composed and articulate on the witness stand. He handles questions about the “sixteen words” in the State of the Union address with ease. Through late spring, he was asked about it by the press but told reporters there was other evidence that might have supported the claim that Iraq had sought uranium from Niger. Later it emerged that the information the White House had used “was wrong in its entirety.” http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/?p=213

What? I thought the 16 words were later found to be true and that Bush and Blair are standing by them. Why would Fleischer say this? Are those the blogger's words or Ari's? They are in quotes, so I am assuming Ari said it. More confusing now...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[CatWoman]

1. poor dumb ignorant fuckers

:nuke:

[Supersedeas]

15. nailed it.

[Arkansas Granny]

21. Not just that, they are willfully ignorant. I have seen many of them

over in freeperland admit to only watching Fox News because it's the only network that agrees with their opinions. They get their "facts" from Rush and his ilk. They don't want to hear anything but the "truth" that they agree with. Anything else is considered left-wing propaganda.

[cool user name]

30. What do you expect when you see this as someone's sig line:

(When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he invented Global Warming)

The height of stupidity. :eyes:

[swag]

2. "What? I thought the 16 words were later found to be true..."

Cheeses, the total fucking ignorance.

Snaps to you for finding these diamonds amidst all the freepshit, K8-EEE.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

4. Oh... my. I looked for sarcasm, but didn't find it.

So I'm just gonna back slowly away.... and then LAUGH! :rofl:

[Beaverhausen]

5. Hannity repeats these lies daily. I bet that is where this clueless idiot heard it

[mzmolly]

38. Living in an echo chamber will do that to a person

person, person, perso... ;)

[Tatiana]

3. There's your 30% that still support Bush.

And the war in Iraq.

And tax breaks for the uber-wealthy.

And taxing those fortunate enough to already have health care.

And ending or privatizing social security.

These people are too dumb to really know or understand the issues.

And they vote.

[lectrobyte]

8. I have relatives who are totally convinced that we found WMDs in Iraq,

apparently because Fox Noose kept broadcasting pictures of those rusty mustard gas shells found there over and over.

[K8-EEE]

17. Yeah they've had MANY "found WMDs" over at Fox

They better tell GWB about it because even he has to admit they didn't have shit!

[Tatiana]

28. And that's exactly why Condi loves the Faux gang.

Remember how she peddled the threat of those dangerous ALUMINUM TOOBS??????

[tblue37]

34. My father's siblings all believe it, too.

They are otherwise wonderful people, but they are politically ignorant and easily manipulated.

[truedelphi]

42. Actually we did find W of D's BUT

The fact that we did so makes it even worse.

We found an ammo dump with 200tons of explsoives - but did we have the troops that found this area patrol it and keep it safe?

No they were entrusted with it for a few brief horus and then told to leave it alone.

(This was shortly after the Shock and Awe campaign)

So after less than 24 hours of gurading this site, these troops were ORDERED away! To leave it alone... So 200 tons of explosives fell nto the hands of Iriqis - and are probably the reason why so many of our troops have fallen to IED's

What if they had been the notorious WMD? Well, the above inaction sure doesn't indicate
that there EVER WERE any protocols for our finding the sinister weaponry.

[K8-EEE]

6. One Freeper Suggests The "We're Too Stupid" Defense!

"This is idiotic. I still can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, and these people claim to remember who told them what on which day in 2003.

Granted, they are probably smarter than me, but I have my doubts that they are that much smarter."

[Kerrytravelers]

9. I don't have my doubts at all.

:eyes:

My goodness, don't these people even understand that persons in positions like Fleisher and the rest of the * cabal write down this kind of information. You don't have one conversation that you don't notate.

:eyes:

[K8-EEE]

14. Duh, Executives Keep A Log Of Their Appts...

Like he couldn't look up when the lunch was -- and like he wouldn't remember him OUTING AN EFFIN' CIA AGENT!

Sheesh....!

[Kerrytravelers]

18. Can't expect some loser pent up in mom's basement to understand how working professionals manage

their time.

:rofl:

[mrcheerful]

11. I wonder if they watch pre-recorded TV shows or do they think

re-runs of Father Knows best and I love Lucy are done live?

[Fridays Child]

20. AKA the "stoopit as a freepturd" defense.

But, seriously, first, Armitage cops to "unknowingly" outing a NOC and, now, Fleischer is doing the same thing.

I don't believe either one of them but that's not even the point. The Bush administration has consistently advanced the notion that they are the only ones capable of saving us from terrorism. However, if the outing of a CIA agent with years of critical, covert dealings on WMD nonproliferation issues was truly just a bumbling error, such ineptitude soars past the level of criminal incompetence.

The people charged with keeping us safe from terrorism should, at the very least, be held to the standard of "knew or should have known," when it comes to matters of this magnitude. Unless I'm mistaken, though, the law actually does allow them to play the "We're Too Stupid" card. x(

[unpossibles]

23. maybe he would remember it if his breakfast decision killed thousands of people...

but yeah - totally the same thing.

You have to love it when someone is too stupid to realize how dumb they really are...

[Little Wing]

37. I had a western omelette without cheese, some home fries, 2 slices

of wheat toast, and two refills of coffee. The guy next to me had 2 cups of coffee, two eggs over well and a side of bacon, there were 4 strips.

[Pharaoh]

40. well I'm not sure what I had

for breakfast in 2003, but if I had outed a CIA angent to get back at her husband,and I forgot about that I'd be in pretty bad shape.

[myrna minx]

7. Oh good grief.

Fox insulates them from the reality, yet the world continues to rotate whether or not they are aware if it. I pity those folks. It is unbelievable how they are so willing to forfeit critical thought for some false sense of world-view comfort. Imagine how perplexed that they'll be when Cheney is forced to resign. :rofl: They won't know what happened.

[Catherine Vincent]

10. Just backwash.

LOL! Poor things. :)

[Beaverhausen]

12. One also still won't believe Plame was covert.

"Hey Libby was willing to throw Cheney under the train. Payback is hell. Libbys problem is not challenging Fitzgerld on the validity of Plume being covert. Unless she is covert, no law was broken, period! This trial should have been over in 5 minutes!"

What idiots!

[Karmageddon]

13. Freepers, by definition, are confused.

They might be incredibly stupid.
Or retarded (apologies to retarded people).
Or insane.
Or delusional.

But any way you look at it, confused is part of the package.

By the way, thanks for bringing us this kind of information, because I can't bring myself to go there.

(note that stupid/retarded/insane/delusional are not mutually exclusive)

[K8-EEE]

16. This one doesn't get WHY Ari's testimony is a problem for Scooty!

"Why is this important? It certainly does not prove that he was not surprised when he learned it from a reporter. All it proves is that he repeated it to Fleischer."

Yeah, knowing something already doesn't mean you can't find it out for the first time a few days later! DOH!!

[annabanana]

35. They have very short attention spans over there....

They understand perfectly how they can learn something on Monday and be completely surprised by it on Wednesday. It happens to them all the time.

[K8-EEE]

19. "Full Stem (sic] Ahead!" The Hits Just Keep On Comin'...

"Just like a judge to try to reduce eveything to process. Forget the facts, and full stem ahead!"

Oh those PROCESSES, oh the humanity!

[K8-EEE]

22. Suddenly Lying To Grand Jury Is NO BIG DEAL!

It's not like he lied about something important like a blowjob, after all!! Just you know...war and peace, that type of thing...

"He lied to the grand jury on this one but the whole trial is ridiculous.What a complete waste of taxpayer dollars. If Fitzgerald were a decent man he would have dropped the charges all together.He is NOT a decent man."

He is NOT a decent man....LOL!!! GO FITZ GO!

[sakabatou]

24. OH NOES! The truth!

[MGKrebs]

25. George Lakoff 's "frames" in action.

Ari's words contradict their frame of reference. Therefore Ari can't be telling the truth. The bald facts smack them in the face and bounce off. I see where some are blaming the judge in a convoluted attempt to support their frame with props they have been trained to use.

[proud patriot]

27. good observation

[ourbluenation]

26. I just read that entire thread. It's quite unbelievable. Truly. They are

vacant.

[helderheid]

31. They are screwn.

[truedelphi]

41. OBSW to you TOO

I love the colors of it and the truthiness of it all!

When I die,and when I am dead, dead and gone I want to be
OBSW'ed all around (Hey, if I live long enough, maybe nobody will even remember who B* was?!)

[11 Bravo]

29. This is news? Freepers are confused by Velcro and Chinese finger traps!

[tblue37]

32. They also believe that WMDs were found, and that a connection

was proven between Saddam and al-Quaida. Above all, they believe that Saddam personally orchestrated 9/11 and that the terrorists who hijacked those planes were Iraqis.

[A wise Man]

33. freepers are the weirdest

species of the human race, or maybe they aren't human. No human beings mind functions the way theirs function.

[GliderGuider]

36. Actually, some of them do get it.

Am I close to the lilliputian prosecutorial character of Fitzie? No, its more serious than that, but not by much. Scooter Libby told the grand jury he had no idea who Valerie Plame was until Tim Russert brought her up to him on the 10th. Ari just testified that Scooter Libby, on the seventh, three days before the Russert Conversation, that Scooter told him about Valerie Plame by name, and even listed the department of the CIA she worked in. That is not an error in memory. Libby lied. He didn't break the law by outing her. He lied to the grand jury. There is no way you can be telling Ari about Valerie Plame and her department in the CIA and forget about it, then "remember" that Tim Russert told you about it 3 days later. He lied. Same thing Clinton did. I will be intellectually honest here and say that he needs to be convicted on this. If the president wants to pardon him fine, but Libby lied about a crucial fact in this non-case when he was under oath. It was wrong. Fitzgerald could have decided not to prosecute, but what kind of message does that send? He was investigating if a crime took place, and to know that he needed the facts of what happened, and Libby tried to snow job him. Remember, at the time Libby testified, it was thought that the reporters were going to get away with refusing to testify. So he decided to lie about what he knew, blame it on somebody who wouldn't testify to contradict him. If I was the prosecutor I would be pissed for him wasting my time. There would have been zero charges here if Scooter told the truth.

76 posted on 01/29/2007 2:00:42 PM PST by dogbyte12

So, this particular Freeper is pretty close to understanding what's going on. What none of them are willing to admit is that Plame's status was classified. Of course they can't, can they? If they admitted that the whole thing suddenly becomes about Cheney committing treason...

[Catherine Vincent]

39. Oh geeze....

"If that is what happened, Fleischer has a responsibility to tell the truth. That beings said, if convicted, Libby will be pardoned and GW will state the reason he was pardoned is Fitzgerald never charged the actual leaker of Plame, which Fitzgerald was appointed to do."
7 posted on 01/29/2007 10:44:50 AM PST by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)

:eyes:

[K8-EEE]

43. Libby Is Screwn By "The DC Jury Pool"

Fresh FR shit today, watch out, don't step in it! The problem is the damn JURY SYSTEM...

"I have so little faith in the jury system anymore. The DC jury pool is 90% Democrat, mostly black, and government workers or on welfare. They hate whitey, hate "the man" and hate Republicans. I just don't see how Libbey gets a fair trial. The evidence is hard to follow even for people who have closely watched the case from the beginnig. I just think it's a hopeless situation. Fitzgerald knows this and is cynically playing the deck already heavily stacked for conviction. He is a disgrace, and really makes this ordinary American deeply distrust the system. If this travesty can happen to someone like Libbey, we average fok haven't got a prayer if we're ever caught up in a judicial meat grinder."