"Did Bush Commit Election Fraud?" YES!!!!! Nailed! GUILTY - “Scoop”

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Link: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0704/S00350.htm

Did Bush Commit Election Fraud?

Gonzales Story - Smoking Gun #1

Monday, 23 April 2007, 11:15 am
Opinion: Michael Collins
Michael Collins
“Scoop” Independent News
Washington, DC
Part 1 of a 2 part series

There is sufficient evidence in the public domain to strongly suspect that Bush committed election fraud in the handling of the U.S. Attorney firings.

Before examining the evidence, it’s important to know the difference between the contrived construct of voter fraud and election fraud, a very real phenomenon.

A Critical Distinction: Voter versus Election Fraud

Lorraine C. Minnite, PhD of Barnard College, Columbia University makes the distinction in the introduction to her comprehensive study:

Voter fraud is the “intentional corruption of the electoral process by the voter.” …willingly giving false information to establish voter eligibility, and knowingly and willingly voting illegally or participating in a conspiracy to encourage illegal voting by others. All other forms of corruption of the electoral process … (by) elected or election officials, candidates, party organizations, advocacy groups or campaign workers (is)… election fraud.

Minnite points out there were only 24 convictions or guilty pleas (page 9) for voter fraud at the federal level between 2002 and 2005. That’s of real interest since the White House has an orchestrated campaign to promote the notion that this is a national epidemic.

While zero occurrences of voter fraud would be admirable, 24 hardly constitute an epidemic. The contrived voter fraud epidemic is used as justification for voter identification laws in at least 22 states which keep minority and poor voters away from the polls. The voter identification requirements, just one example of Department of Justice voter suppression, create a barrier to voting because the many minority voters lack the required identifications. Even the former head of the Department of Justice Voting Rights division agrees with the political use of voting laws since 2001.

Enough on voter fraud, whether real or contrived. Election fraud is the subject right now, the ultimate corruption of the electoral process.

New Mexico Meltdown

New Mexico U.S. Attorney David Iglesias is at the center of what may become a constitutional crisis.

Cong. Heather Wilson (R-NM) trailed her Democratic opponent in the first congressional district. She needed help. It appears that she requested a boost from U.S. Attorney Iglesias in the form of a timely pre election scandal involving a prominent Democrat. That’s how Iglesias read her phone call concerning a pre election indictment.

Sen. Pete Domenici, (R-NM) called Iglesias as well. According to Iglesias, there was a clearly implied request for a pre midterm Democratic sacrifice at the altar of election injustice. Iglesias reports that when he refused on the grounds that he lacked evidence (one of those minor details that tends to annoy those in power), Domenici simply stayed on the phone … silent.

Iglesias was gone in a heartbeat for not cooperating with a prosecution that would influence the 2006 midterm elections in his state. But who made the decision? Fingers were pointed but nothing stuck until last week. The Albuquerque Journal reports that during talks with Sen. Domenici, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales refused to fire Iglesias unless the president gave the OK.

Well, Iglesias was fired wasn’t he? Gonzales denied culpability, inferring his DOJ subordinate Kyle Simpson made those decisions. Simpson fired that charge back at Gonzales. But the Albuquerque Journal article provides the missing piece. Gonzales wouldn’t move on Iglesias without a Bush sanction. How do these pieces fit together?

It’s simple. Wilson needed help. Both Wilson and Domenici called Iglesias. No deal Iglesias said. Then Domenici made the call to Gonzales who said, no way without a nod by from Bush. Iglesias was fired. Therefore, Bush is tagged for giving the order, Get rid of him. Gonzales passed the word and the deed was done.

That sequence of events points directly to Bush as the final decider. He’s told us “I’m the decider” in public. Gonzales said as much to Domenici, no way unless the boss says so.

The problem is not only political but legal. Pressuring a U.S. Attorney into a bogus indictment is a federal crime. Domenici lawyered up after Iglesias described his conversation with the senator. Gonzales and Simpson both denied initiating the call on the firing. So it’s Bush, and only Bush, as the author of a punishment delivered to a U.S. Attorney who failed to indict a citizen for purely political purposes.

Now that’s what you call a high crime. Actually, it’s called election fraud, which is defined as “corruption of the electoral process … (by) elected or election officials, candidates, party organizations, advocacy groups or campaign workers.” Here we have politicians actively planning improper and illegal acts to influence an election through a contrived prosecution. It’s not that complicated.

High Crimes

The New Mexico affair is critical to determining if and how election fraud was committed in the White House. We have a lot of people talking, some getting lawyers, and a critical conversation reported in the Albuquerque Journal, 15 April 2007:

In the spring of 2006, Domenici told Gonzales he wanted Iglesias out.

Gonzales refused. He told Domenici he would fire Iglesias only on orders from the president.

That’s the smoking gun. It’s the vital link to Bush committing election fraud. He’s a politician, the senior politician, corrupting the election process by replacing an honest prosecutor with someone who will cooperate the next time the Senator and the Congresswoman call with their requests that some prominent Democrat be indicted to give a hand to a campaign.

There is enough testimony, from a U.S. Attorney no less, to make a prima facie case that Bush committed election fraud. Ironically, the probable election fraud took place while the White House was promoting the Republican myth of voter fraud.

Let the impeachment process begin.


Previous “Scoop” coverage of the voter fraud scandal and the U.S. Attorneys:
Fired Federal Prosecutors and Election Fraud M. Collins 12 March 2007
U.S. Attorney Firings Exposes Rough Justice: Voter Fraud Prevention Equals Voter Suppression M. Collins 27 March 2007
"Sleep Walking through History." Willing Participants in Our Own Demise M. Collins 3 April 2007
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Permission to reprint granted with an attribution to the author and a link to this article in “Scoop” Independent News.

Link to this article: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0704/S00350.htm

Also, see expanded source material on Election Fraud News

[stevedeshazer]

1. 24 proven fraudulent votes?

And to think Dumbass was elected 5-4.

K & R

[autorank]

2. You're right.

If those 24 had been counted in the Supreme Court election, we could have won!

What a bunch of weasels these guys are! It's all public domain!

[Usrename]

82. If it's such a horrible crime, why the silence about the Coultergeist.

It seems like there should be a lot of shrieking about her dabbling about in this nefarious activity.

That is if it truely is a bane to our democracy, and not just a way to change the subject.

The Ann Coulter voter fraud case: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2809

[glengarry]

96. Did Bush Commit Fraud? Does a bear go in the woods?

He sure did. And you warned about it before the 2006 midterms:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I know you like numbers, so take a look at this:
2004/2006 Election Fraud Analytics: Response to the TruthIsAll FAQ
Last Updated April 23, 2007 by TruthIsAll

http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/TruthIsAllFAQRes...

Part I contains a comprehensive statistical analysis of 2004/2006 pre-election and exit polls. The 2004 National Exit Poll had Kerry winning by a steady 51-48% from 4pm (8649 respondents) to 12:22am (13047 respondents). But Bush won the 2pm Final NEP (13660 respondents) by 51-48%. In the Final, impossible weights and implausible vote shares were required to force a match to the recorded vote count. The True Vote Model determined that Kerry won the popular vote by 66.1-58.4 million (52.6-46.4%) and the electoral vote by 336-202.

In the 2006 midterms, the Democrats gained 31 congressional seats – a solid victory. But they actually did much better than that. A regression trend analysis of 120 pre-election Generic polls (all won by the Democrats) projected they would win by 56-42% – and gain more than 40 seats. The National Exit Poll at 7pm (55D-43R) confirmed the pre-election trend: a Democratic tsunami was taking place. But at 1pm the next day, the Final NEP used implausible weights and vote shares in order to once again force a match to the recorded vote count. The Democratic margin was cut in half to 52-46%. The fraud resulted in the loss of 10-20 additional seats.

To test the robustness of the models, a comprehensive set of sensitivity analysis tables display the effects of incremental changes in input assumptions on the true popular/electoral vote (i.e. pre-election polls: undecided voter allocation; post-election exit polls: timelines, demographic weights/vote shares; voter turnout; cluster effect, uncounted vote shares, etc.) Links to several Excel-based models are included for readers interested in using their own scenario input assumptions and then ask “what-if” to estimate the true vote.

[The Count]

3. Days before the election, palast on AAR gave a list of states to be stolen

I know for sure that New Mexico was there, as was Georgia, Florida and a few others (not sure about Ohio though)

[autorank]

5. No doubt, Palast is brilliant. But this is a simple case. ..all out in the open

...and in the public domain.

What are we waiting for?

IMPEACH BUSH

[orleans]

20. no shit. i was just gonna ask if we could ICI the fu*ker

IMPEACH
CONVICT
IMPRISON

[Warpy]

54. We're waiting for Congress to get disgusted enough

and grow some spine!

The reason NM is at the center of this (a poor state, low population, not much decent land) is because these arrogant bastards have always wanted it so badly.

NM is the blue island in a sea of red out west. Stupid barely lost itin 2000, by fewer than 1000 votes and only after a box of absentee ballots someone had placed in a very creative location (ahem) were counted. The crooked voting machines had to erase 17,000+ votes in the national election in 2004 to give him a decent victory in 2004. Wilson has been hanging on by the skin of her teeth for the last 3 elections, not knowing if she'd won or lost for many days after the election. They wanted this state, out of all proportion to its size.

The Albuquerque Journal is a right wing rag from the editorial page to the comics (they only recently dropped Prince Valiant and still run old Beetle Bailey strips). I'm astonished they're keeping this one going.

The problem with arrogance and naked greed is that it makes even the craftiest of crooks get sloppy. We're all hoping this is part of the tipping point for Congress, that one naked abuse of power that finally wakes them up to the fact that their own positions are getting precarious.

[grannylib]

4. This has been in the works since the Nixon days; engineering a 'permanent

republican majority' was all part of the plan that was obscured/ignored by the burglary investigation. And they have to accomplish this through theft and fraud; what else do they have???
NOTHING.

[autorank]

6. grannylib, You have a good memory...

...so that's what they were looking for...always something with these guys.

When you know how the magician does the trick, the trick loses it's power.

A much broader set of people are aware now. Take a look at the links to the
sources. All Mainstream Media ... and the McClatchy peoplel are rokken and
rokken hard.

Humpty is about to take a great fall!

[Lasher]

7. Tax cuts for the richest 10%

Don't forget about how the mega-rich families have benefitted.

Everybody else is stupid if they vote for Publicans.

[autorank]

9. We trying to catch up with you here in Virginia...

We're now proud to have one Democratic Senator, unlike our "wild and wonderfl" cousins to the west who are politically aware enough to have two.

I see Rockefeller is already furious, time for Byrd to make his move. Bush must go!

[Lasher]

23. These are times to be proud to be a Virginia Democrat

How about Tim Kaine? Mighty fine Governor! And the election of Senator Jim Webb is my fondest political story of the year. Every Senate win counted, of course, but I give Virginia credit for putting Bobby back in the chairmanship of the Senate Appropriations Committee and Jay heading up the Senate Intelligence Committee. Everyone does not realize how important that is.

You're right, Jay is mad and he's the kind of guy who is slow to anger. So watch out!

The last 3 sections of the Intelligence Committee's Phase II report is due out in late spring or early summer and I'm sure that will be exciting. I have been looking forward to that ever since I realized we had won control of the Senate. Maybe Bobby will pile on after Jay's Phase II feces contacts the ventilator.

A salute from a brother in the other Virginia:

[autorank]

31. I'd forgotten about the final sections of the Intel Comm Phase II Report

Damn! Now that's real good new!

We're glad to help our brothers get two of the best chairmanships in the Senate.

Webb's story is one of fighting back, every single slander and libel was responded to with the truth, but it looked like Hell to them

A salute back from your Virginia brother.

[grannylib]

10. Greed, fear and stupidity - the only three reasons people vote rePiglican

[rwenos]

8. High Crimes - Who will Roll?

One has to like the logic, but Gonzalez' statement, standing by itself, is only circumstantial evidence that Bush gave the order to fire Iglesias. IF someone can be found (maybe Monica Goodling?) to be granted immunity, and then testify under oath . . . THEN a team of House Managers can assemble a prima facie case.

It's hard to know if Goodlling (or maybe Kyle Simpson) could be sufficiently incentivized to deliver this clearly-criminal order to the Oval Office.

A U.S. Attorney must also be found to press the subpoenas flowing from the House Judiciary Committee.

If Bush can be pinned with the Iglesias firing, it begins to smell like impeachable high crimes.

[autorank]

13. Circumstantial cases are great!

You're right though, it takes some motivating to get the House to hold the hearings that establish a predicate for the impeachment resolution. Conyers, Waxman, they're both well up to the task. Maybe they'll take a shot. I sure hope so.

In fact, we might expect Gonzales to, let's see , forget.

But we have the two sources form the Albuquerque Journal who provided the information and two other sources form a McClatchy story who confirm that the whole 'voter fraud' program was intended to suppress the vote. There are a lot of angels here.

Then there's Wisconsin and the US Attorney who had a parallel set of circumstances to Iglesias. In that case, he caved it seems, when he was told he had a lousy evaluation. He indicted a high profile Democrat before the midterm elections. The Democrat was convicted locally, but the case was reversed and the verdict as well. The opinion included a verbal spanking for U.S. Attorney Biskupic by the Chief Judge of a conservative panel, U.S. Appeals Court.

There's a bunch of stuff. What I like about this is that it's comprehensible and simple. It's a criminal case. Get the lower level people like your suggestion of Goodling and make them testify under oath.

This is better than a break in

[Swamp Rat]

11. K and R!!

You rule autorank!!

[autorank]

14. ROFLMAO!!! Brilliant

Oh my, I'll restrain myself from comment on the truth through art. John Heartfield would be proud.

Hey, this one's easy, no math. It's a Dragnet episode, "just the facts ma'am, Ms. Goodling."

[Swamp Rat]

27. Thanks!

John Heartfield would be pretty busy these days too.

[wake.up.america]

52. One of many outstanding "photoshopped" pieces The overall concept and colors.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

86. Yep. This is my favorite piece ever.

I cannot look at it without bursting into helpless laughter.

You are a marvel my friend.

[GreenTea]

12. Paper Ballots!

Will the Dems get it before 2008?

We better!

[autorank]

16. This puts ELECTION FRAUD right out there. MSM is all over this, the

stories behind each piece of the puzzle I present.

The McClatchy Newspapers people are doing awesome work and others as well.

Access Denied

The Bush administration has systematically worked nationwide and notably in Missouri to restrict voter turnout in ways that favor Republican candidates in close races.

By GREG GORDON of McClatchy Newspapers
Published Sunday, April 22, 2007
http://www.columbiatribune.com/2007/Apr/20070422Feat007...

That's what I call great reporting!

[Lasher]

25. Systematic is right.

Remember when The Hamper came up with the scheme to gerrymander Texas? They were required to run the plan by Justice to see if it compromised minority voting rights. Career attorneys said that it did and therefore was illegal, but political appointees overruled them, which was a highly unusual if not unprecedented act. There is definitely a pattern.

[autorank]

30. It's the only battle they could win, the only effort where they performed well.

They've screwed up everything but stealing power. What an accomplishment.

[malaise]

34. This is the

Got yah icing on the cake. I M P E A C H!!

[bobbolink]

67. Yes, good article. However....

I wish they wouldn't use the RW term "voter fraud". It obscures what's really happening, and so many people who scan articles won't get the full import.

BTW, I think I'll give my local paper a call, and make sure they get this!

Mucho megalo mahalo!

[Vidar]

106. Thank god they're finally covering it.

[bleever]

15. You speak the plain truth, right out loud, before

other media voices, because you have nothing to lose: you already lost it, in 2000 and 2004.

The other voices continue catching up. Patience is being rewarded, and hard work is paying off.




I salute you in gratitude.

[autorank]

18. I accept the title...

...of loser

You're right, thought, none of us have anything to lose politically at this point.

We're just putting graffiti on the wall of our national prison.

But did you see this...omg! Greg Gordon is going to break the big story somehow. This is the best
in a series of great articles he and the other McClatchy Washington Bureau folks have done done.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/2007/Apr/20070422Feat007...

It was on Greatest earlier but, more importantly, it's on front pages all over america (McClatchy is
the Bee papers in CA - Sacramento, Fresno, Modesto, Miami Herald, Kansas City Star). And the
other MSM folks are taking off with it too.

FINALLY

[bleever]

62. I did indeed see that.

McClatchy has been publishing great stuff of late. Not long before Corporate Media pays more attention, especially thanks to Karl's efforts to make "voter fraud" part of the national conversation!

[jeff uppy]

84. And likely not long

before the same vultures Gobbling up the LA Times and neutering it do the same to McClatchy. Coming soon to a headline near you: "Bloomberg/Burkle consortium to buy McClatchy"

[bleever]

87. Your cynicism

is entirely appropriate. Welcome to DU!

[countmyvote4real]

91. I'll second that.

It's right on target.

[autorank]

103. Welcome to DU

They can buy all they want, when their policies make the investments worthless, there will be a new economy and they'll be broke Well, that's a stab at optimism, or maybe an attack.

Enjoy!

[alfredo]

17. K&R

[nicknameless]

19. Plus, Kyle Sampson informed investigators that gonzo had told him

that he and * had discussed Iglesias before last November’s election.
Of course, gonzo lied about it.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-...

WASHINGTON — A leading congressional critic accused Atty. Gen. Alberto R. Gonzales on Monday of making misleading statements about a conversation with President Bush regarding a U.S. attorney who has said he was fired for political reasons.

D. Kyle Sampson, Gonzales' former chief of staff, told Senate investigators over the weekend that the attorney general told him in early March that he and Bush had discussed U.S. Atty. David C. Iglesias' performance before the November election, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said in a briefing with reporters.

Excellent Scoop, as always!
K&R!

[autorank]

21. nicknameless...I'm going to check with you prepublication. But it's an organic process...

...we're all working on this one.

I had a Freudian slip about Mr. Sampson, who I apparently referred to as "Simpson" (because he's such a "Homer"

Great point!

[FogerRox]

22. Lets start the party

[autorank]

26. That's the spirit...bringing it to the "mean streets"...

SWM, OK...or MWM...or "Man of the Hour" - any hour

[orleans]

24. K&R n/t

[rumpel]

28. it's getting warmer...

Let's also see what Sen Leahy finds in the e-mail accounts to reveal further. The Blackwell unitary decision to put the SOS on the same server as the RNC is very suspect - subpoena Rove -

has any president ever been impeached for election fraud?

great report, autorank

[Maraya1969]

29. Well what knocked it out of the stadium for me was the butterfly ballot in very Jewish

Palm Beach with George Bush first, Pat Buchanan second and Al Gore third. Some Elderly Jewish people were distraught when they realized that they voted for Bush by mistake. Only it wasn't a mistake, it was calculated.

It looked like Al Gore was right under George Bush and since there were many elderly people voting in that county with not so good eye site it was a calculated slam dunk for the thieves. Even Buchanan said it looked very fishy but then he told everyone to get over it.

Here is the ballot.

[DemReadingDU]

37. This is confusing!

I thought people were upset because they voted for Buchanan by mistake. They wanted to vote for Gore because it looked like Gore was 2nd on the ballot, but actually Buchanan was 2nd, and Gore was 3rd.

And why was Bush 1st on the ballot? How are ballots designed anyway, alphabetically? Still doesn't make sense.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

48. buchanan said, "i know that those 6,000 palm beach blue hair jewish ladies ......

did NOT vote for me"

[Wednesdays]

49. Yeah, it was the "Jews for Buchanan" aberration

Even Buchanan himself conceded those votes should have gone to Gore.

http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/11/09/fl...

[glengarry]

107. It is a well-known fact that Gore won Florida...but so did Kerry- by over 200,000 votes

http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/TruthIsAllFAQRes...

They ignored Florida’s implausible vote count by machine type and party registration. In 2000, Bush supposedly “won” by 547 official votes. Given Gore’s 70% share of 180,000 uncounted under/over votes, he would have won by at least 60,000 votes had they been counted. In 2004, Bush supposedly “won” by 52-47%, a 368,000 vote margin. But the Democrats had a 41- 37% registration advantage in Touch Screen (TS) counties and a 42-39% edge in Optical Scan (OS) counties. Kerry won the TS counties (3.86mm votes) by 51-47%, but Bush won the OS counties (3.43mm votes) by a whopping 57-42%. Kerry’s low vote shares in the three most heavily populated (and Democratic) TS counties (Palm Beach, Broward, Dade) are highly suspect. Florida voter registration by party is the same in TS and OS counties, so we aren’t comparing apples and oranges. The TS county vote share matched the 12:22am NEP to within 0.43% for Bush and 0.31% for Kerry. The OS county share deviated by 9.0% for Bush (307,000 votes) while the Kerry discrepancy was -8.1% (278,000).



Two separate models indicated that Kerry won Florida by 221,000 votes. The first was based on voting machine type (optical scanners and touch screens) and used 2004 NEP “How Voted in 2000” vote shares with party registration percentage weights. Kerry won by … 221,000 votes. The second was based on uncounted and switched votes assumptions applied to the 2004 recorded vote. Kerry won by…. 221,000 votes. Assuming that Kerry won 70,000 of 96,000 Nader 2000 votes (based on his 71% NEP share), he had a built-in 100,000 vote advantage on Election Day … assuming all the votes would be counted. The final Zogby pre-election poll had Kerry winning by 50-47%. Assuming a 1.0% margin of error, the probability is 1 in 12.7 trillion that Kerry's total TS county vote share would exceed his total Florida share by 4.2%.

[mnhtnbb]

53. Alphabetical would have put Buchanan first..

This ballot was intentionally designed to aid Bush--no doubt about it.

[BeFree]

32. Open and shut case

Did they conspire: Yes

Did the conspiracy take action: Yes

Was the conspiratorial action a crime: Yes

Have they been caught: Looks like they have been caught.

[autorank]

36. They're caught if those on high, er, on the Hill start asking questions

Just a plain old crime with a bunch of bad guys doing bad things.

In this case, the bad things harmed the nation and the world but
those issues will be handled in time.

This is narrow, strong, and to the point-he steals elections, Good Lord!

[Sancho]

33. It is time to hold the bastards responsible...

even if there's an impeachment hearing on the last day * is supposed to be in office...

[autorank]

35. Another dead ender...justice must be done.

There are so many things to impeach Bush for it's hard to choose.

In this case, all of the evidence is sitting out there in plain sight.

This is an impeachment version of "T-Ball." If the House just steps up
to the plate, they can hit one out of the park.

[DemReadingDU]

40. There are rumblings

and they are getting louder. More people are paying attention.

Thanks for your excellent article!

[symbolman]

38. It would be most

ironical if Bush was Impeached for ELECTION FRAUD.

That would just take the cake!

[Me.]

39. Enough Already

Build the bonfire

[Hubert Flottz]

41. Election Fraud is simply...

Taxation without representation.

That's as unpatriotic as it gets!

[autorank]

43. What a succinct way of putting it - "taxation without representation"

...and misrepresentation of taxation.

[Joe Chi Minh]

42. Right to the heart of the issue, Mike. You should have been a lawyer,

or did you train as one?

[autorank]

44. "I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on TV."

No training for that. Wish I'd had Jesuit education but I didn't.

Just the school of hard knocks, somewhere on one of the coasts

[lonestarnot]

45. I had a feeling we would find our smoking gun in NM!

Right on.

[autorank]

50. Time for some serious oath taking, grand jury style.

The Congressional hearings are useful but they never go after anybody for lying, even though it looks like it happens all the time. Grand jury testimony is another thing. We need an eager prosecutor who works fast. No more of this 3 years for one conviction stuff.

NM - nice! Wilson was behind pretty consistently in the polls and it looked like she was going down. That's one to look at but the calls the statement to Domenici by Gonzo, those are pretty clear cut. Lets see of Gonzo wan't to take the heat all alone? Bush can never fire him but you never know maybe they'll have an "exit package," unlike their treatment of the 8 fired prosecutors.

Time for some heavy lifting by somebody.

[lonestarnot]

108. Someone better get busy and fast!

[halobeam]

46. k & r!!

[progressoid]

47. Not exactly the smoking gun scenario you envision....

The way I see it, there is a smoking gun laying on the floor with no one in sight. No finger prints. No gun shot residue.

Gonzo told Dominici that he would pull the trigger if the Prez told him to. But has he actually testified that the Prez told him to? No.

He has taken responsibility for one of his underlings doing the deed, but never saying who ordered the hit.

[galloglas]

57. But consider this...

Gonzo told Dominici that he would pull the trigger if the Prez told him to. But has he actually testified that the Prez told him to? No.

But does it matter?

Gonzo has acknowledged who could get him (Gonzo) to pull the trigger, and implicit in his statement is that only that the POTUS could get him to pull the trigger.

Now, given that the smoking gun is on the floor, that Gonzo cannot deny that he knows who ordered the trigger pulled, that Gonzo has taken responsibility for the deed (whoever did the trigger pulling), and that Gonzo (by virtue of his taking responsibility) acknowledges that whoever was the agent who ordered the hit, Gonzo facilitated it;

ergo, the person responsible gave the order through Gonzo, and Gonzo acknowledges that there exists only one such person who has the authority (in his opinion) to order him to take the action, that Gonzo has taken responsibility for ensuring the action was carried out, that the action was indeed carried out, consequently, someone ordered the hit, and, Gonzo has already ruled out every other living human being in the Universe, except George W. Bush, by virtue of their "lacking authority".

Conclusion: If God himself didn't pull the trigger, then George W, Bush did.

[truedelphi]

65. Bush might say that God told him to pull the trigger

And all his right wing peeps that flock into their pews on Sundays
will support him 100%

Lying for Christ
Election fraud for Christ

If it's what Jesus wants...

[progressoid]

74. Does it matter?? Damn right it matters.

Convoluted assumptions do not equal evidence. "Nailed! GUILTY" is nothing more than hyperbole.

The OP implies that Bush is guilty of election fraud. But in reality, there is no direct tie (smoking gun) connecting this to the president. Because of obfuscation and secrecy, we can't make that connection to the Pretzledent at this time.

[galloglas]

77. You have ample evidence of the crime being committed.

Via Gonzo's acceptance of responsibility. Yet, Gonzo says he did not initiate this crime. He was acting on orders.

Gonzo has already ruled out every other living human being in the Universe, except George W. Bush, as being able to give the command.

Ergo, you have a crime of human commission, and only one person that fits the description of the Perp. George W. Bush.

It would be no different if the perp were seen, in the dark, and seen to be fourteen feet tall, thoughth eface was not recognizable.

Conclusion? Only fourteen foot tall men are suspects. If trhere is only one forteen foot man in the world, that is your perp.

It is not necessary for Gonzo to name Bush. He hasd already said that Bush is the only person from whom he could take the order as he is the only person occupying the position of "Unitary Executive", in Gonzo's demented mind.

I'll take that bet, with a jury of twelve peers, any day of the week.

[Raksha]

94. We can make that connection. As a matter of fact it's a slam dunk,

if I may use that expression. Only two people on the planet have the authority to fire a U.S. Attorney. One is the Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales. The other is the pResident.

Gonzo says it wasn't him, and we know he would never have done it unless the pResident gave him the green light. So by a process of elimination, who does that leave...???

What is so beautiful about this situation is its absolute simplicity.

No wiggle room AT ALL!

[autorank]

97. Hi Progressoid. I've heard that tone before

""Nailed! GUILTY" is nothing more than hyperbole."

You are the engaged in baseless attacks, so based on my admin given rights as a DU user in
somewhat good standing, perhaps even good at times, I hereby put you on IGNORE.

Sayanora

[progressoid]

99. Okey dokey

[IWantAChange]

51. It would appear that the longer Gonzo stays more dirt comes out - if so please stay!!

[BuyingThyme]

55. This also qualifies as obstruction of justice. One need not

prevent or hinder a prosecution in order to commit obstruction of justice; it also works the other way around. In other words, if one "corruptly" attempts to cause a prosecution, that too is an obstruction. (The word corruptly is taken from the law/code.)

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 73 > § 1503

§ 1503. Influencing or injuring officer or juror generally


(a) Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, endeavors to influence, intimidate, or impede any grand or petit juror, or officer in or of any court of the United States, or officer who may be serving at any examination or other proceeding before any United States magistrate judge or other committing magistrate, in the discharge of his duty, or injures any such grand or petit juror in his person or property on account of any verdict or indictment assented to by him, or on account of his being or having been such juror, or injures any such officer, magistrate judge, or other committing magistrate in his person or property on account of the performance of his official duties, or corruptly or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be punished as provided...

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_se...

[autorank]

58. BuyingTyme, that about sums it up. Excellent work.

Thanks. That means that if Iglesias is correct and if the Albuquerque Journal is correct, everybody from Heather Wilson through * was involved in the activity described in title 18 etc. Nice work on their part. It makes it simple. He needs to be impeached. Verify the conversations and bring some charges.

[autorank]

100. Check my tihrd comment "mcollins" on this OpEdNews thread...

http://tinyurl.com/37ynwa

[BuyingThyme]

102. Thanks for the link, Autorank!

[galloglas]

56. "K ?" - - "Check !"; "R ?" - - "Check !";

Page 73, Screenplay, "Crawford, Texas, Historical Society Sesquicentennial"


"Election Fraud ?" - - "Check !"

"Evidence ? " - - "Check !"

"Smoking Gun ?" - - "Check !"

"Perp ?" - - "Check !"

"Scaffold ?", - - "Scaffold ?"! "Someone call the Carpenter's Union!"

"Judge ?" - - "Roy Bean! Roy Bean! Where are you, boy?"

"Check the Saloon!"

(overheard at the Possé Passé Saloon)

"Only one thing left to do now. Find the Fiddler."

"The Fiddler?"

"Yes. The Fiddler. There's only one who knows how to play the Double-Hemp Jig, from beginning to end, and to play it right.

"Starts out with a loud Snap!, goes faster and faster, then slows a bit, the steps getting tighter and tighter, legs moving slower and slower, spinning slowly around, till it ends with just a twitch of the toes.

"Our Perp will appreciate us getting him that particular Fiddler. I believe they are friends, going back ever so long a time.

"It just seems appropriate."

[autorank]

ROFL...they're "Fiddling" while Rome burns!

Surely there's a law against that.

Maybe they'll flee town if they know that Judge Roy Bean is on the way. Lesser men than this crowd have done the same. That Bean is bad news!

[truedelphi]

59. Ahem! Historians PLS note - right after the comma that mentions Iraq

You better put in a paragraph or two about how Autorank toppled a Presidency (along with the help of Scoop!)

[understandinglife]

60. Recommended.

NEVER FORGET.

[Echotrail]

61. Guilty!

Now when will Congress and the courts put the hammer down?

[bobbolink]

68. I've stopped holding my breath! Welcome to DU, Echotrail!

Love your twiddling thumbs!

[Echotrail]

89. Thanks!

[truedelphi]

63. If anyone wants to see a dramatic portrayal of New Mexico

Election fraud - pls let me shamelessly hawk Dorothy Fadiman's "Stealing America"

The activists in that state know where the bodies are buried (registered voter bodies heh heh)

[bobbolink]

69. The "Activists in that State" are to be commended!

In the face of so much stonewalling and objection, those activists managed to pin Richardson against the wall until he signed the bill for paper ballots!

They deserve much thanks!



And, yes, they know a whole lot about the "buried bodies"...... they should be called to testify to Congress!

[librechik]

64. Didn't Domenici admit calling Bush about it?

I vaguely remember something

[kiteinthewind]

66. Thanks, Autorank. Especially pointing out the Voter Fraud vs Election Fraud distinction

I constantly hear the two terms used interchangeably and it is frustrating bc I don't think the general public, esp. the Sheeple, get it. Great article. Look forward to part 2

[autorank]

71. Thank you for point that out. It's the difference between truth and lies.

Their little marketing campaign failed. The public is hip and McClatchy is totally on top of this.

See Access Denied, although you probably did, by Greg Gordon. My God! This is amazing.

Access Denied, Greg Gordon http://tinyurl.com/252q9x

Tony S makes an appearance in Part 2 , no kidding.

[ChiciB1]

70. I Wonder If This Will Be Helpful To OUR Still Un-Resolved House Race

down here in Florida 13??? It's still going on you know?? And while Jennings is a "reformed" Repuke turned Democrat, I'll take the "D" behind her name anyway!

It DON'T happen much around here, actually it's VERY VERY RARE!!

[autorank]

76. It might in an indirect but very important way...crooked elections are in the MSM

That's something we've pushed for and , alternatively, complained about for a long time. But it's happening. Click on the link at the bottom of the OP on sources. It's largely MSM with the important exception of the Minnite study on voter fraud which is epic.

So now they can talk about using dirty tactics to win elections. Maybe lawyer Coffee should stop with the "machine malfunction" and hit this one - "why would a machine malfunction over and over to the benefit of only one candidate." That's what happened, unless the most random, strange events took place to create the mathematical impossibility on just that day, in just Sarasota County.

You're the citizen(s)... make them fight for this. There's a group there "SAFE" I think. They're very good and you should be able to rely on them.

Good luck!

[ChiciB1]

78. Not To Worry... I Worked Getting Petitions Signed To Have A

proposition put on the ballot for a paper trail started by SAFE. I know all about SAFE... but maybe THEY don't know about this.

Kindra Muntz was really SUPER and worked extremely hard getting it on the ballot. Also worked with the Jennings campaign, and still am to some extent. I was just putting it out there again.

But I do think I should forward this to Jennings anyway. Didn't think about, so thanks for the info.

[StefanX]

72. K&R

I logged in just to K&R this one!

Excellent work! Book 'em.

[Mnemosyne]

73. Error: You've already recommended that thread.

That's a mighty fine brain you have there, Mike!

I have become so leery of having each renewed hope quashed over and over.

Please let it be so!

[autorank]

80. The Wizard gave me a new model;)

We'll hope that they get really aggravated and conflicted over this set of affairs and that the tension will join with their anger at taking endless garbage producing an outburst of impeachment mania... or something like that. I'm interested in Jay Rockefeller. He's got a lot of information and our good friend form W. VA says he's furious.

There is reason to hope now because the tide has turned, * at 32% or so, and parts of the MSM is rokken on this subject.

[Mnemosyne]

114. Wasn't Rockefeller under some kind of gag order over some

information he knew and couldn't tell? I'm going dogpiling and see if there is info.

32%? No way! Liars.

I don't think there's anything in that Wizard's black bag for me. Lost my mind years ago.

Whom would you consider their 'weakest' link? I think it's *.

Addict, alcoholic, smarmy, arrogant, ignorant know-it-all. That kind always tries to save their own ass when cornered. And that could be very bad for him, imo. How great for the neocons if they had * as a martyr.


Just a thought.

[StefanX]

75. Who has the AUTHORITY to fire a US Attorney?

I think I recall reading a post on DU which cited law saying that only the President has that authority.

At the very least, the phrase that "US Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president" would indicate that keeping or getting rid of them is the president's decision.

But I think I remember seeing very specific statutory language saying this same thing. (Can anyone find this? It was in "Greatest" a few weeks ago. I hate the way stuff disappears!)

[babsbunny]

79. Please send to Keith Olbermann!

Please?

[althecat]

81. Wow... a real hit Autorank....

Check out these referrers

http://www.stumbleupon.com/refer.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/23/cant-ignore-the-e... /
http://www.buzzflash.com /
http://www.stumbleupon.com/refer.php?url=http%3A//www.s...
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com /
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_michael__070423...
http://www.astroworld.us/archives/000632.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
http://www.smirkingchimp.com /
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=bush&btnG=Se...
http://starlightnews.com/wordpress/?p=199
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/6987
http://news.google.com/nwshp?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&ta...
http://forums.go.com/abcnews/Politics/thread?threadID=5...
http://www.electionfraudnews.com /
http://www.buzzflash.com
http://www.stumbleupon.com/refer.html
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=bus...
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=bush
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org /
http://tabletalk.salon.com/webx?13@@.773bbccc
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thenewswire/comments/2007...
fficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wn" target="_blank">http://news.google.com/news?q=michael%20bush&ie=UTF-8&o...
http://forums.go.com/abcnews/thread?threadID=567657
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=bush+polls&b...
http://www.mlive.com/forums/newstalk/index.ssf?artid=24...
fficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wn" target="_blank">http://news.google.com/news?q=bush&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&aq...
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard...
http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&ned=ca&q=bush&btnG=Sea...
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/21642
http://www.altavista.com/news/results?nc=0&avkw=tgz&nd=...
http://www.astroworld.us/mt/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=63...
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/autorank
http://news.google.com /
http://dissentisterror.com /

[autorank]

88. Let the word go forth from Washington, Impeach Bush/Cheney now!

This is great. Thanks for sharing the links. I must admit that when I saw www.altavista I thought we'd made a gamer site. Actually, we've been linked on massive multi player online role playing sites.

Look at this from Salon...

- 07:09 am Pacific Time - Apr 23, 2007 - #3044 of 3088

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0704/S00350.htm

This is the specific issue I was referring to. I already know about the Rethugs wanting Iglesias to prosecute non-existent voter fraud. But this is the first time I've heard about the stuff in this article.

What is clearly apparent is that MSM is on board with the reality that 'voter fraud' is a sham construct and that it is used to influence elections for the Republicans. ELECTION FRAUD is out there thanks to the"Scoop" "free press," and the other places where that reality is discussed.

Also, we owe McClatchy News papers Washington Bureau, the NYT, which has been fierce, and the LA Times (great work publishing Rich, former head of Voting Rights for *). There are more. Let's get them to link up

[puebloknot]

83. K&R And thanks, from New Mexico.

[In Truth We Trust]

85. IMPEACH NOW! Let there be justice and rule of law! k&r

[stevedeshazer]

90. kick

Just because autorank is awesome.

Keep after it, buddy.

[nealmhughes]

92. With apologies to Cato: "Bushco delinda est."

[autorank]

112. Cato will understand

And Bush will experience the anti-triumphal procession

[HCE SuiGeneris]

93. Another comprehensive survey of the issues

affecting our election process. Great job Mike! K & R

[autorank]

95. There's a lot to despise *!!! Thanks to your for the encouragement.

[Catherine Vincent]

98. Kick!

Too late for me to recommend! (just returned from out of town)

[Kurovski]

101. Kick

[AtomicKitten]

104. Question : Will the Dem Congress expand the investigation?

This could be it, the foot in the door of election fraud, to be followed shortly thereafter by kicking it wide open. The only real resolution to, hell, really addressing election fraud will be through Congress.

I've been waiting with bated breath, biting my nails, realizing the Dems have a pile of felonies to deal with, but this issue can't wait another moment.

Our democracy cannot withstand another stolen election.

[autorank]

109. Atomic Kitten, you're right Congress is the immediate target.

They can change the laws in ways that make things much tighter and they can dump the presidential control of the Election Assistance Commission, which gives us voting machines that don't work and law suits from the Federal government against states that resist their will. For some reason, this light hasn't gone off but it will.

The real pressure comes from the MSM. These folks are kitting it out of the park daily. That means lots of people are hearing about this, all over.

Now they have cover from the media. Folks like us, citizens, lack the influence but the press aggregates us somehow and I'm betting they'll listen and also use this as an issue. ONce they open the door, though, then ALL ELECTION FRAUD CONCERNS GO ON THE TABLE. That's when the serious stuff starts. Pretty hard to put the genie back in that bottle.

Nice seeing you!!!

[Ellipsis]

105. Kick!

[autorank]

110. Hello fellow clean elections advocate.

Aren't these people amazint. They've done this all over the country in different forms.

The myth of 'voter fraud' was sold hard but got a limited public reception.

It sure sold in state legislatures which were more than happy to deny voting rights based on
a myth. They really have nothing but contempt for the citizens

[Swamp Rat]

111. ponta-pé

[autorank]

113. Meet you at Cafe Du Monde!

I'm buying

[autorank]

115. Kick! For democracy and REAL INVESTIGATIONS...n/t