Has anyone actually read the Senate or House Health bills?

[Kablooie]

Or know where we can find them?

[Stinky The Clown]

1. No one has. But each and every one of us are experts on its each and every detail.

[Kablooie]

3. Ah that makes me feel better. At least I'm getting advice from experts.

:sarcasm:

[BeFree]

4. Huh

I thought these people were experts!! They sure do act like they are. Damn, we've been fooled!!

Maybe Bernie is as close as we get? Thank God for Bernie, eh?

[Xipe Totec]

5. Excuse me, but I have

It's been a while since the last time I read the full text, but I did at one time.

Don't believe me?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8741484&mesg_id=8741566

[Kablooie]

6. That's good. I've been hearing so many horror stories that I've become skeptical about the truth.

I'm waiting for some informed opinions instead of opinions based on rumor.
(Which may have been created by Republicans to kill the bill.)

[Political Heretic]

11. I have an informed opinion.

It's still opinion, though. Your mileage may very.

I've done my best to read and understand these thousands of pages of bills. I've skipped some sections, but I've done my best.

I've also read everything I can get my hands on - for and against - on the issue.

In the end, I feel that today's statement by the National Nurses United, he nation’s largest union and professional organization of registered nurses, sums it up the best I have seen so far.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7301706&mesg_id=7301706

[sandnsea]

7. Speak for yourself

I've been reading the bills ever since the HELP bill was released in June.

[Political Heretic]

9. No one has, huh?

Bzzzt!

Wrong. :hi:

[beyurslf]

2. I doubt that anyone who voted on the bills has read them either.

[Political Heretic]

8. Yes, and you can find them here: (UPDATE)

http://www.demconwatchblog.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=E92F2CE6CEB5FC967D7D87ACDC99F8E9?diaryId=2928

Sigh direct link gets clipped off... here's the page:
http://www.demconwatchblog.com/diary/2928/senate-health-care-bill-and-managers-amendment-full-text


http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text

[Kablooie]

10. Excellent and thank you muchly.

[Political Heretic]

12. Opencongress will have the Senate Bill text once it passes, and its get a great indexer/searcher

So I'd recommend using that site... bookmarking it in fact.

[HuckleB]

13. Newshour's comparison...

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/health/july-dec09/billcomparison_12-21.html

[Windy]

14. senate.gov has a link .

You can also search the bill with specific terms.

http://www.senate.gov