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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 10:57 AM
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Memory
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 11:07 AM by AllentownJake


Memory all alone in the Moonlight
I can dream of the old days life was Beautiful than
I remember the time I knew what Happiness was.
Let that memory live again

I'm so glad I handed something similar to this out across the Lehigh Valley. I think I owe the Secretary of State an apology, and I should take a long hot shower.

Oh look what she's holding when she said shame on you Barack Obama
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:04 AM
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1. Kick
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:15 AM
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2. So is the Hillary -Barack feud..
back on again..
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:18 AM
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4. He lied
Nothing to do with Senator Clinton, he lied.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:21 AM
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6. Yes, it did involve Hillary. She may have lost the nomination because he lied.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:23 AM
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7. That is true
Regardless of his opponent, he was willing to lie for votes. I don't see why people aren't remotely upset that he did this.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:27 AM
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8. Because it is Him.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:28 AM
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9. Maybe that is why I'm on the outs
This was never about him with me.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:00 PM
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21. I didn't want either Republican-light
Obama is a Clinton Republican, that was known. Hillary was for NAFTA and gutting the middle and working classes, that was known. But we shut our eyes a lot here in the home of the brave.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:33 AM
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10. Does Dean still want to Kill the Bill..
or is he now back tracking..
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:35 AM
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11. Did Barack Obama put up a remote fight on an issue
He thought was important enough to spend money sending out negative attacks on an opponent.

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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:51 AM
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17. So I guess the feud is back on..
again are you still angry?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:54 AM
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18. I was a Team Leader for Barack Obama in the primary
Yes, I'm angry that the President had me distribute lies to my neighbors for his personal benefit.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:02 PM
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23. I don't know what lies you are talking about specifically but..
you know damn well that EVERY candidate who runs has a specific agenda while running but once they enter the office they find roadblocks all along the way.

The bluedogs and republicons had plenty of time to plan how to stop him at every turn and it seems to be working because their plan is working and now some seem to think that if they put up Dean he will win. Not!
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:06 PM
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26. I'm guilty of lying about a candidate in a primary
I now must repent to the offended party. I'll be writing a letter of apology to the Secretary of State and copying the White House and OFA.

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:37 AM
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12. Inform yourself.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:57 AM
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19. So do you think that..
we will get the public option now? RepubliCON stupak and others are now back at it again trying to kill the bill..Why oh,why does everyone try to pretend as though we will get everything we want NOW when we all know that the bluedogs/Republicons have some more tricks to pull out of their bag.

The wrangling will go on for months and it doesn't really matter what the President wants because these bluedogs never intended to vote for a public option or single payer.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:48 PM
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30. Your question (inference) was about Howard Dean back-peddling.
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 01:06 PM by chill_wind
As for "pretending we will get everything we want NOW" - that's a laugh. We didn't even try. We watered down and compromised and watered down, and watered down some more. Insurance companies and big Pharm are the interests "getting everything we want NOW."

Other countries in the civilized world can do good and right their citizens in their rights to health care. We cannot.

As to the rest of your question, watching Democrats support this caricature of a "liberal" party that forces a mandate on the public, one without a public option and other regulation with guaranteed teeth-- and watching it sell out to ANY legislation that sacrifices women's reproductive rights, health, & choice is something I never dreamed I'd see.

At this point, I am out of the prediction business.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:17 AM
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3. "I think I owe the Secretary of State an apology"
really? I doubt that. More like Obama owes an apology for going back on a promise.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:19 AM
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5. I was an accomplice to a lie
an uninformed accomplice but an accomplice none the less.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:50 AM
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16. well then I too
apologize to her.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:58 AM
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20. I am actually going to sit down and write her a letter
Don't know if she'll get it, but I'm going to write her a formal apology.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:01 PM
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22. that's great
send a copy to the White House too.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:05 PM
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25. and OFA nt
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:39 AM
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13. Good catch....kick.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:40 AM
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14. Is that the best we can do for families struggling with high healthcare costs?.
Yes we can!
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:43 AM
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15. Don't blame me I voted for the Barack Obama who promised change
Not this guy.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:04 PM
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24. Ouch!
The long hot shower may make you feel better.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:17 PM
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27. kick
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:22 PM
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28. I have a feeling you're gonna get more hate mail.
Something about the stark truth makes 'em extra crazy.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:30 PM
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29. Like I don't get it now anyway nt.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:50 PM
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31. Well, at least they didn't darken her skin color. Do we have to rehash the primaries? IBTL.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:01 PM
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32. I think this topic is relevant
Seeing that the primary argument, has in fact been won, by his opponent, and he still won. What is that about elections meaning something.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:18 PM
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33. locking
The mods have decided to lock this as a primary rehash.
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