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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:21 PM
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Edwards will jail sick and dying people?
"Edwards has publicly stated that he would not change marijuana laws, and he favors the Justice Department's arresting patients and caregivers who defy federal law"

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2003/08/14/372/32120

now theres some tolerance for ya, i dont suppose he's changed his mind yet? =(
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:24 PM
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:26 PM
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3. He Just Hates Rich People
Look, candidate's actual positions on the issues are a private matter.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:27 PM
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4. other candidates have stated or signalled they will do the correct thing..
especially kucinich who i voted for in the 2004 election, and also clark who i would have voted for had he not pulled out before california came up.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:39 PM
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9. Love Kucinich, but sadly you are DELUSIONAL if you think he has a chance in 2008.
Kucinich is a needed voice of reason, but the cold hard fact remains that he will NEVER be President. PERIOD.

So, among the viable 2008 Dem candidates, who differs from Edwards on pot laws???

J
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:46 PM
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15. when his own ppl treat him like a mutant i suppose your right.. its sad.
im not at all uncomfortable with clarks statements, and i think he'll run.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:46 PM
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13. Huh, complaining about taring Edwards by taring Hillary
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 12:47 PM by TorchTheWitch
How much is Hillary paying you for the opposition effort??

Now that's rich. You're all outraged that you believe the OP is taring Edwards... and BLATANTLY tar Hillary by making an outright accusation that the OP is the result of a Hillary paid smear campaign.

So what you're saying is that the OP should be chastised for giving the appearance to some people of taring Edwards, and it's perfectly ok to do so by blatantly taring Hillary. Okey dokey.

I'm no fan of Hillary by any means as I'm praying she doesn't get the nod, but I had to chime in as your approach is just... wow.

:rofl:

Edited to add italics.

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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:25 PM
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2. He will be too busy supporting war against Iran to do such things
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:48 PM
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19. ..
:evilgrin: I am seriously re-considering my support of Edwards. And it has nothing too do with the size of his house.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:28 PM
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5. He never said the words in your quote - misleading.
I certainly hope you read the entire entry from 2003. And if you did, I wonder why you chose to post what you did.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:35 PM
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7. And why go and dig up a 2003 blog post. Surely things have changed in 3 1/2 years.
I've never read Talk Left before. Are they generally fair to Democrats, or do they tend to be over the top and misleading like, say, Counterpunch?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:37 PM
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8. ohh i thought i was just quoting the print there sorry heh
anyways my own analysis places his as the actual front-runner at this point in time and i find that very concerning.

i also think he would not be the best choice.. so the combination of these factors makes me somewhat edwards-preoccupied. sorry!!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:47 PM
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17. TalkLeft made an inference from various Edwards' statements.
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 12:47 PM by sparosnare
He said he would form an exploratory committee and that he would enforce the law as it stands now - NEVER said he wanted to jail sick and dying people. I'm not in Edwards's corner either, but we should try to treat all candidates with fairness. Just a suggestion. :hi:
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soswolf Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:31 PM
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6. Hm. A candidate who tells you where he stands...

At least you know his position. Or, you knew where he stood in August 2003.




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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:44 PM
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10. Hell, I used to think all 'WE' had to fear was 'swift boating' from the RW.......
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 12:44 PM by Double T
NOW I'm MORE concerned about 'swift boating' from factions in our own party. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:45 PM
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12. No, a certain group here is very good at digging up dirt on all candidates except one.
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Verde Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:55 PM
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26. I don't think you could find this much Edwards bashing on FR
or Limbaugh's site. I was talking with my (Dem) parents yesterday and used the same words describing what I was reading here. It's a shame to see a Democratic board cannibalize one of their own as if he were the reincarnation of Nixon.

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soswolf Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:02 PM
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29. Don't forget single-issue voting! n/t
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:45 PM
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11. Boy you guys must be really worried about Edwards that you are attacking him so much.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:07 PM
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35. Edward's shouldn't take this too personally.
I've seen this type of bashing of Clinton, Obama, now Edwards. As soon as you announce your candidacy, the DU backers of other candidates start the bashing.

Other than Bush, there are no Republican candidates that take as much bashing here as do Democrats.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:46 PM
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14. Is that a certificate from the Frank Lunzt School of Framing I see on the wall?
Very clever. If you were sincere, you could have made a post of how candidates stand on medical marijuana. You could have even titled just this post "Edwards against medical marijuana" but no, you chose to make your title "Edwards will jail sick and dying people." Too clever by half. Only more revealing of the poster than the intended target.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:47 PM
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18. that is the end result. why color it pretty??
these are people who are in a living hell already, and when they are done being tortured they will be dead.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:46 PM
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16. OMFG. THIS IS BULLSHIT. As a Clark supporter I'm embarrassed that you'd post this.
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 12:47 PM by xultar
First. He wouldn't jail them...personally.
Second. The courts would show mercy. That's their job to look @ the situation and determine the best way to proceed.

STOP THIS SHIT!~
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:49 PM
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21. yeah right
that and a quarter will buy them a phonecall? something like that..
what about caregivers?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:51 PM
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23. Now I see why people don't like us. How could I have been so fucking blind?
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 12:51 PM by xultar
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:49 PM
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20. Did I mistype the url? I thought this was DU, not freerepublic or the FOX News site
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:50 PM
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22. Exactly.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:58 PM
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27. Hi, xultar
:) How're things in Atlanta?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:59 PM
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28. CRAZY Chilly! How are things with you?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:05 PM
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33. We're finally getting some cold, winter-like weather here.
After several days of 60-degree-plus temps during December.
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pennylane100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:52 PM
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24. Lets Hope Wes Clark has also changed his mind,
this is how he stood in 2003.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Wesley_Clark.htm


Wesley Clark on Drugs

Click here for 2 full quotes on Drugs OR other candidates on Drugs OR background on Drugs.

* More drug treatment and more border security. (Jan 2004)
* Against decriminalizing marijuana. (Jun 2003)
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:54 PM
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25. dont leave out the other parts..
“They said smoking marijuana helps,” he said. “We need to look at that and make some allowances one way or another.”

this is exactly what i want to hear from him. i trust him to do the right things.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:02 PM
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30. Edwards strangles kittens. nt.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:02 PM
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31. This is shitwork.
If you don't like John Edwards don't vote for him.

Stop slinging shit.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:04 PM
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32. No kidding.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:06 PM
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34. just because its an issue that is extremely screwed up, doesnt mean
i created it.

sending people to federal prison for giving a sick guy marijuana is severly wrong, id like to not see it be perpetuated.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:11 PM
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38. Shitwork.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:07 PM
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36. You're starting to make me HATE Clark!!!
And I resent that. I USED to like him and respect him, but all these attacks on the other candidates are starting to make me HATE him. Mission Accomplished!!!
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:09 PM
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37. I have alerted on this thread, and I urge others to do so as well.
Aren't you embarased to have General Clark's picture beside this shit?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:13 PM
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39. lol fine, how about a nice kitty?
:D

sorry if i think its an important issue
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:19 PM
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41. truth hurts, eh?
Look: Edwards said what he said about medical marijuana. A few of us happen to think that his words on the matter are quite relevant just now, especially since many have insisted that Mr. Edwards' own pursuit of happiness is not to be questioned.
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SanCristobal Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:14 PM
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40. This makes me so angry!
Not just at Edwards, but at politicians as a whole who almost all refuse to end drug prohibition.

IT'S NOT WORKING!
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42. I'm going to lock this.
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