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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:12 PM
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Pissing off the hippies is what "moderates" do
Edited on Mon Dec-07-09 04:13 PM by kpete
Negotiating

Since all the dirty hippies decided that the public option was what mattered, it was probably inevitable that it would go (I don't know this, I'm hopefully mostly kidding). Pissing off the hippies is what "moderates" do, and as most of them don't have a clue about policy anyway, if the hippies are for it then they know it must be bad.

Along those lines, dirty fucking hippies like digby shouldn't they think lowering the Medicare age is a good idea, because if so it won't happen.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/yes-we-should-by-digby-from-personal.html

Next time there's a major piece of legislation, I hope "The Left" can organize around supporting all the stuff they actually don't like and rejecting all the stuff that they actually do. We might just trick the "moderates" that way.


...adding, in practice I think any "compromise" which will make liberals sort of happy will just be a shiny object which will be pulled away at the last second.

http://www.eschatonblog.com/2009/12/negotiating.html
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:15 PM
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1. ...so STFU you dirtbag hippie freak! Stop deleting my healthcare reform!
:rofl:
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victoryparty Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:17 PM
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2. Year update - it is 2009
Uh, it's 2009. Someone is stuck in the '60s, and it ain't some imaginary hippies.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:24 PM
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4. i'm 68. i call myself an "old hippie". lol
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:23 PM
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3. I thought the mods were trying to piss off the zoot suiters.
What's up hepcat?

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:27 PM
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6. Cool. Snappy threads there, eh?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:25 PM
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5. A moratorium on petulance would be a nice start
Ironic self-pity looks bad on everyone. It screams "I'm not just hypersensitive, I'm also a spoiled bully".

Hippies. Moderates. Left. Right. Everyone.

--d!
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:47 PM
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7. Funnily enough assumptions are not universally accurate
Taken in toto I'm probably further towards the center than the vast majority of DU. I am however an unabashed supporter not only of the public option but much more so single payer. We will not get our hands around health care costs at all without the first, and frankly we won't make a huge difference without the second. It is perhaps not for the same reasons as "hippies" that I have this opinion. I see it not only as a basic human right (although I do) but as an economic advantage for society too. No single payer nation spends as much per capita on healthcare as we do, and almost all of them have better longevity, infant mortality, and preventive carr than we do. Every potential entrepreneur who could develop a better product or service but stays on at their job because they fear losing coverage or being able to afford it is a retardant on GDP. Every business that loses a bid to a foreign competitor because of higher employee healthcare costs is a loss of cash into our economy and our treasury via corporate taxes. Every conglomerate that sites a new location offshore because of total costs, when healthcare benefits are rising faster than any other cost, is a potential blow to employment security and GDP. Single payer is not just a "hippie" ideal but just good basic pragmatic centrist common sense when you get down to it.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 05:09 PM
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10. i recommend this post
we need common sense policy, not continued capitulation to the status quo to appease corporate interests.
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:48 PM
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8. Whoa, daddy-o! Can't dig that scene!
Edited on Mon Dec-07-09 04:51 PM by StarfarerBill
:smoke:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 05:05 PM
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9. "beatniks are out to make it rich.oh no,must be the season of the witch"
:smoke:
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