Can a golf club break a car window?

[goclark]

Did that golf club mess with my Tiger? :shrug:

No one on my television is saying it this morning but the blogs sure
are ~

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2009/11/27/2009-11-27_tiger_crash.html


Ms. goclark

[The Straight Story]

1. They said his wife used it to free him, but also said it was the back window

:shrug:

[barbtries]

2. the answer is yes,

if you swing it hard enough.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

The SUV is an Escalade and I would suspect that they have heavy duty glass but

what do I know?

:shrug:

[goclark]

10. That's what I was thinking too ~ seems strange to me.

:shrug:

I'm trying to picture Ms. goclark hearing a crash and then running in the house to get a golf club to try to rescue my Ex.

Did she call 911 and then decide to pick the heaviest club and be Superwoman?

Maybe her set of car keys were upstairs and the Clubs were right by the door?

I still don't get it. :shrug:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

25. Also, not in MSM, the day before a rumor was published in the NE about Tiger having an affair

with a NY party planner/hostess. I'm sure his wife would have been pretty pissed off because of it.

[goclark]

53. Ms. goclark would have been ready to rumble ~

:mad:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

58. lol! Meanwhile, she has a 5 month old... that would rev it up even more!

Combine sleep deprivation with feeling basically like sh*t (which I did for months after my kids were born) and then to find out that there are rumors about your husband having an affair with another attractive blonde? Someone posted an article yesterday about a woman ripping the testicles off of her cheating boyfriend...Tiger should count his blessings!

:rofl:

[goclark]

60. Blessings 1,2,3,4,5 and $$$$$'s

And he needs to watch out for flying golf clubs ~

[jmowreader]

31. The glass isn't any heavier-duty than any other car window

I've hauled quite a few car windows, and talked to people who make them. The only difference between the windows in your Prius, Tiger's Escalade and my semi is their shape; they're all made the same way.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

39. Thanks for the clarification. :)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

3. self-delete... apparent computer burp.

[Kingofalldems]

4. She broke the rear window, then apparently climbed in

and pulled him out from his position in the driver's seat. :rofl: Did the cops actually believe this?

[704wipes]

9. I bet she lacerated HIM with the club before he drove off

To me there are things not making sense. I wonder if she injured him at the home. He gets in the SUV to drive himself for medical attention. He passes out leaving the home and wrecks the Escalade. She covers the situation by claiming she freed him with the club. Funny how it is his 'favorite' club. He probably has 5-6 new sets yearly.

[goclark]

17. I'm not watching tv ~ are they clearing anything up yet?

The tabloids always get things wrong but it is ironic that the story came out in the Enquirer and the Globe yesterday.

Maybe John Edwards can clear it up for us.

[Kalyke]

18. That actually happened to me.

Although, the back window was already broken from the crash.

The car doors were crumpled shut and the paramedics, at first, attempted to get me out through the back window. Someone finally brought the Jaws of Life and opened the door, but, had that not been available, they would have taken me through the back window.

I found it plausible.

Mrs. Tiger isn't a tiny woman (she's not heavy - just tall) and Tiger isn't a ginormous man.

:shrug:

[goclark]

22. Glad you were Ok after the accident

I'm glad that Tiger is Ok now too.

[Hepburn]

42. Maybe she climbed in the back window and unlocked the doors....

...and pulled him out through a front passenger door?

:shrug:

After all, the back window of an SUV is the biggest one with the easiest access ~~ or so it would appear.

[goclark]

55. good point

We learn new things everyday.

I just get this visual of his pretty wife beating the window with the golf stick, that must have been so frightening.

:shrug:

[jberryhill]

65. ..Because Hitting A Tree And A Fire Hydrant Disables All The Doors?

This story smells.

[rocktivity]

5. Shame on the Daily News

Quoting an unknown source from a known tabloid--or is that like the pot calling the kettle black?

:eyes:
rocktivity

[mentalsolstice]

80. If we go above 10 mph, our MINI's doors autolock.

My doors are usually locked before I leave our driveway, which I'm sure isn't as long as Tiger's. She could have bashed in the driver side window, but that risks injuring him further. Bashing in the passenger window may be useless if the unlock control is on the center console. Back window gives you good access to climb in, unlock the front doors and pull him out.

[beyurslf]

6. If the crash was such a slow speed that the airbags didn't deploy, why would you have to break out

the back window? And where are you going? And why was she awake? And she could hear that from inside?

[seabeyond]

32. i am thinking all he need do is OPEN the door, lol. nt

[barb162]

33. You'd break that window to avoid injuring the person in the front seat.

Maybe they had both been awake. I want to hear the whole story.

[grantcart]

59. Woods was apparently unresponsive and going in and out of consciousness

[mbperrin]

7. Mythbuster results on car glass:

http://mythbustersresults.com/episode72

You can open a window in a submerged car by attempting to break the window using a window-breaking hammer.
CONFIRMED
The device is designed with a pointed tip designed to shatter tempered glass. The hammer breaks the window on the first try.

You can open a window in a submerged car by attempting to break the window using a spring-loaded center punch.
CONFIRMED
The point of the punch can work like the tip of the hammer, and punches are sold for the purpose of breaking window glass. The punch breaks the window on the first try.

So why not a club, which is much longer, allowing much more force to be brought to bear, since a center punch or a hammer will do?

[Ms. Toad]

36. The point of both the center punch and the window-breaking hammer

is that they have a small pointed tip. As far as I know, golf clubs do not.

That doesn't mean that you can't break the window with a golf club (I don't specifically know one way or the other) - but this particular article is mostly irrelevant to proving it.

Edited to add: In case you haven't seen one, here is the "hammer" they are referencing:

[goclark]

57. Thanks for the information ~ I can see how it would work nt

[Ms. Toad]

61. My mother got one for each of her kids (and grandkids

as they got their drivers' licenses).

She was in an accident when the airbag went off and the police wouldn't let her open the door. She wasn't hurt, but she couldn't roll down the electronic windows, and the gases were making her sick. She wanted to make sure everyone she was connected to had the means to get air circulating. (The handle also has a razor embedded in it to slice the seatbelt).

Otherwise I wouldn't have a clue.

[goclark]

63. That is awesome ~thanks for sharing nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

72. Golf clubhead speed even for Elin would be 50 or 60 mph.

A couple ounces of steel traveling about 60 mph will easily break a car window.

[Ms. Toad]

76. It may well - but the is not what the mythbusters discussed.

The two examples discussed were things with a point that concentrate the force created by the momentum of a relatively heavy object swinging toward the window in a very small focal point (a special "hammer" designed for breaking windows with a face no more than 1/4" across, and a center punch with a similar impact surface).

My point was not that a golf club couldn't break a window - but merely that the two examples are irrelevant to proving that point.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

77. I was only addressing your statement about not knowing one way or the other.

[Taitertots]

8. A bare hand can break a car window n/t

[Altoid_Cyclist]

15. I can confirm that.

Never ever punch the windshield when you're upset.

D'oh!!

[mitchum]

56. I can also confirm that

they same also holds true for the side windows

[XemaSab]

41. On the other hand, I saw a dude try to break into a car with a rock once

FAIL doesn't even begin to cover the FAIL that that man met with. :P

[Taitertots]

47. Please tell me it bounced back and hit him in the head or crotch

I don't understand how couldn't do it with a rock. I've done it with a hand wrapped in a shirt.

[XemaSab]

49. I think the window he was trying to break was plexiglass

He was locked out and he was too cheap to call a locksmith, so he decided to break a window with a rock. All he really did was scratch the crap out of the window.

That was one of the best days at work ever. Most days you just can't get free theater like that. :D

[dysfunctional press]

78. i locked my keys in my car with my dog inside in a home depot parking lot...

i called a locksmith, but it took awhile for him to get there, so i bought a hammer, and was trying to determine the cheapest window to replace when he showed up.
it cost $80, but he also gave me a blank key for my wallet that will open the doors, but not start the engine.

[jberryhill]

66. I've seen it done with a head

...drunk guy locked his keys in the car. I'm amazed he didn't break his head.

Had to jump into the back seat, distract him, remove the keys from the ignition and run...

[Celebration]

11. glad he wasn't hurt worse!

Not sure I would want to go back to that home if I was him.

[goclark]

13. I was thinking the same thing

Maybe he needs to chill out/retire and maybe she needs to take up golf.

She sure has a great swing. :shrug:

[Fla_Democrat]

12. No, but a person can use it to break

the window. Almost like another inanimate object blamed for stuff....... :think:

[Generic Brad]

14. This story does not pass my smell test

It would be more believable if the Missus had stated they argued and then she tried to beat the hell out of him with a golf club. But when you are wealthy and endorsements are on the line, those pesky facts have a way of getting filtered through a publicist.

[slackmaster]

16. Jack Nicholson got arrested for breaking a man's car windshield with a 5-iron once

Yes, it can be done.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

27. I remember he said the shot really called for a 3-iron but he wanted the extra control of a 5.

[FarCenter]

19. If I heard a crash in the street, I'd certainly pick up a golf club before going outside

to investigate.

How much loft do you need on the club for the Escalade windows?

[jberryhill]

67. Pitching Wedge....

If the car is sitting high in the rough, then you might try choking up on a seven iron. But otherwise, you go for the wedge.

[global1]

20. He Who Lives By The 'Club' Dies By The 'Club'...........nt

[Are_grits_groceries]

21. If you are pissed enough or scared enough,

you'd be surprised what could break a window.

[DCBob]

23. Very suspicious.. Why not just open the car door to get him out?

If the doors were locked, why smash the rear window, why not a side passenger window and then unlock the door? Sounds like a domestic dispute. But even so, its none of our busness. Leave them alone. They have a lot of issues to work out between themselves.

[Stevenmarc]

24. If she could run into the house to find a golf club to free him she could have found the spare key

Well unless she was swinging the club before the accident.

[WilliamPitt]

26. Yes

[tabatha]

28. BOGUS

The story is bogus !!!!

Wait for the facts from Tiger.

[goclark]

29. Thanks now I feel better ~

How did you find out that the story was Bogus?

[tabatha]

40. I've read two different strories - and won't believe either till

an official report.

But TMZ said the facial lacerations were caused by his wife.
They are usually correct.

[rocktivity]

37. As long as he realizes that the longer he "waits"

The MORE bogus HE'S going to sound.

Uchitel is denying both an affair and and that she told anyone so--obviously, that helps. But it doesn't matter who passed a polygraph test, because it's entirely possible that Samson is telling the truth about what Uchitel told her, what Uchitel told her was a lie!


rocktivity

[goclark]

54. I sure hope you are right ~

Ms. goclark is crazy about Tiger and yet I can understand his wife not feeling so happy to see a pack of lies written about her man in the Tabs.

[Honeycombe8]

30. Yes. Modern car windows are MEANT to shatter more easily than the old versions.

Supposedly safer. They shatter and break into smaller pieces, whereas the old ones would break into big chunks when hit harder. Not sure why smaller pieces are considered safer.

For my last two cars, though, I was unfortunate enough to get hit by a little bitty pebble. Both times it cracked my windshield. Just a little pebble.

[goclark]

48. Wow! I didn't know that ~

I would have thought they would be harder to break in newer models.

So that means that a kid could break the widow of a 2009 car and snatch stuff out of the car before the alarm goes off. Wow!

Thanks! I'll be more careful about what I leave in the car.

[otohara]

34. Old Friend of Mine Broke Every Window in VW Van

of her former B-friend with his own golf club.

So yes...

[SoCalDem]

35. Perhaps she whacked the back glass as he drove away

and that's what distracted him:evilgrin:

[AlexinVA]

38. That's exactly what TMZ is reporting...

Tiger Woods: Injuries Caused by Wife, Not SUV

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/28/tiger-woods-elin-nordegren-fight-accident-suv-lacerations/#ixzz0YAs9or30

[Hepburn]

45. That seems the most probable...

...and it either distracted or startled him -- or both -- and he had the accident.

[Hepburn]

43. I have had Cadillacs and Lincolns...

...and with the new ones, put it in gear and go forward and the doors lock. HOWEVER...on impact, there is a safety feature that is suppose to unlock the doors. Maybe it did not work?

:shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. Yes, actually pretty effective

Especially if you use the driver.

If you ever need to break a window though a window punch is much safer.

[skygazer]

46. I consulted my caddy as to what club he would recommend for bashing out an Escalade window

He felt a driver would be most appropriate. It will be interesting to find out what Mrs. Woods opted for.

[jmowreader]

50. I would recommend a 1-iron

Seeing as how it's not good for anything else...

[goclark]

52. It would be really interested

to know how she selected it.

I still say it's mighty ironic that the Enquirer broke the "lie" about Tiger having an affair and that evening his wife used the golf club to help him out of the car after he hit the fire hydrant.

Good thing he is not the husband of Ms. goclark,we may have been going some rounds with the golf club inside the house.

I probably would not have waited to let him know how I felt about that article.

:shrug:

[woofless]

51. It's all in the wrist.

[goclark]

64. Huum, Tiger better watch out from now on ~ nt

[spanone]

62. you could take out just about anything with a golf club, it's a wicked thingy

[jberryhill]

68. "Come on... that's not necessary...."

[paparush]

69. If swung by a jilted wife? Absolutely.

[goclark]

70. Mrs. Woods seems like she can handle him ~

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

71. My 5 iron clubhead speed is about 100 mph. I'd say yes.

[Blue_Tires]

73. easily...pretty much any club in the bag would do it, i think...

[ZombieHorde]

74. "Can a golf club break a car window?" --> Easily.

"Did that golf club mess with my Tiger?" --> This question reminds me of the book/movie "Misery."

[goclark]

75. LOL ~ nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

79. You can break a car window with a screwdriver. n/t