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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:13 PM
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Woman believes boyfriend cheating, Rips off testicles
Edited on Fri Nov-27-09 04:22 PM by Cash_thatswhatiwant


Helen Hodge, 34, was accused of mangling Billy Duncan's privates with her bare hands after accusing him of cheating on her.

Traumatised Billy, 49, was rushed to hospital where doctors carried out emergency surgery to save his maimed wedding tackle.

Last night a source said the alleged attack happened at Dundee fan Billy's flat in the city in the early hours of Monday after he had been out celebrating his side's Challenge Cup final win.

The insider said: "Helen started accusing him of carrying on with other women.

"He just wanted to sleep though so she started hitting him around the head and face.

"He told her to quit it and demanded she get out the flat.

"Billy was only wearing his underpants at this stage.

"Helen grabbed his testicles and pulled them as hard as she could.

"Eventually he managed to get her off him and chucked her out the flat."

But horrified Billy later looked down and realised he was bleeding heavily.

The source added: "His scrotum had been ripped open and his testicles were dangling by his legs. There was blood all over the flat.

"Billy tried to stop the bleeding with a towel. He didn't know what to do so he called his wee brother Darren.

"When he arrived and saw what had happened he called the police and ambulance straight away."

Last night Helen - who was released without charge - denied she was to blame for the horror injury.

Helen - who has a three-year-old son with Billy - said: "He'd accused me of doing stuff before to him but has never been able to prove it. He probably did it to himself or the woman he's been with has.

"I'll admit there was some pushing and shoving going on but I didn't touch his testicles.

"I've forgotten what his b***s even look like. He's not been near me for months."

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  - Um  bluestateguy   Nov-27-09 04:13 PM   #1 
  - That seems kind of harsh.  The Velveteen Ocelot   Nov-27-09 04:14 PM   #2 
  - OUCH.  proteus_lives   Nov-27-09 04:15 PM   #3 
  - If a man did something horrible like that to a woman ....  UndertheOcean   Nov-27-09 04:17 PM   #6 
     - weren't you the DUer who decided Polanski couldn't be a rapist because of his movies?  Fleshdancer   Nov-27-09 04:25 PM   #14 
     - That is some good ownage right there.  aikoaiko   Nov-27-09 04:31 PM   #19 
     - Only for feeble minded people who can't stay on topic , and who don't understand  UndertheOcean   Nov-27-09 04:37 PM   #27 
        - that's not "ad hominem"  omega minimo   Nov-27-09 10:40 PM   #90 
        - which is ? enlighten me with thine wisdom  UndertheOcean   Nov-27-09 10:46 PM   #92 
        - Yeah it was you that said that about Polanski  spiritual_gunfighter   Nov-28-09 08:07 AM   #109 
     - So your argument is so weak , you had to change the subject .... I said I will not discuss the  UndertheOcean   Nov-27-09 04:33 PM   #22 
     - because you know you were wrong for defending a rapist?nt  Cash_thatswhatiwant   Nov-27-09 04:36 PM   #26 
     - oh,talking about Polanski... I';ve noticed on CNN he is  Whisp   Nov-27-09 06:22 PM   #54 
     - how obvious do you need to be?  omega minimo   Nov-27-09 10:38 PM   #87 
     - sorry , what the heck are you talking about ?  UndertheOcean   Nov-27-09 10:39 PM   #88 
        - dropping turds and stirring  omega minimo   Nov-27-09 10:42 PM   #91 
           - huh ? Are you drunk. I an ending this now , welcome to my ignore list  UndertheOcean   Nov-27-09 10:47 PM   #93 
              - Can you put yourself on Ignore so the rest of us can't see you?  omega minimo   Nov-27-09 10:51 PM   #94 
     - Here's a story about a guy ripping his own testicles off:  DemBones DemBones   Nov-27-09 11:46 PM   #99 
     - Hey, the article was unclear, If she did it, she needs to be jail...  proteus_lives   Nov-28-09 12:45 AM   #103 
  - Who wrote The Critique of Pure Reason?  alcibiades_mystery   Nov-27-09 04:15 PM   #4 
  - cheeky  27inCali   Nov-27-09 04:50 PM   #33 
  - Who me? I'm just asking a factual question  alcibiades_mystery   Nov-27-09 07:08 PM   #66 
  - Kant ? (Immanuel Kant)  UndertheOcean   Nov-27-09 04:54 PM   #35 
  - I see she's been practicing in the martial arts  cowcommander   Nov-27-09 04:16 PM   #5 
  - LOL. You are so bad.  snagglepuss   Nov-27-09 06:08 PM   #48 
  - "Monkey Steals the Peach"  louis-t   Nov-27-09 06:19 PM   #51 
  - not funny.  Whisp   Nov-27-09 06:26 PM   #57 
     - I'm laughing at the poster, knucklehead.  louis-t   Nov-27-09 06:34 PM   #64 
  - "Monkey steals the Peach"  Canuckistanian   Nov-27-09 06:24 PM   #55 
     - Nope.  TicketyBoo   Nov-28-09 08:19 AM   #112 
  - Sadly, some will say domestic violence against men is ok/ funny (like prison rape)-men's forum?  The Straight Story   Nov-27-09 04:17 PM   #7 
  - I wouldn't be one of those people.  HughBeaumont   Nov-27-09 04:35 PM   #25 
  - Been there myself sadly, and just don't like to talk about it :( (nt)  The Straight Story   Nov-27-09 04:44 PM   #31 
  - No way, if men got their own forum surely they would just make jokes  JonQ   Nov-27-09 08:04 PM   #74 
  - Who will say that?  omega minimo   Nov-27-09 10:31 PM   #84 
  - SICK SICK SICK society!  Toucano   Nov-28-09 10:43 AM   #122 
  - The balls' in her court.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-27-09 04:18 PM   #8 
  - Wow ? That monster was not even charged ? typical.  UndertheOcean   Nov-27-09 04:21 PM   #9 
  - Only men can abuse, dontchakno  Cash_thatswhatiwant   Nov-27-09 04:23 PM   #13 
  - Can you back that statement up with facts? n/t  Fleshdancer   Nov-27-09 04:28 PM   #16 
     - The OP says that she was released without being charged  UndertheOcean   Nov-27-09 04:30 PM   #18 
  - She didn't really deny it  ohheckyeah   Nov-27-09 04:21 PM   #10 
  - She was realesed without charge !!!! read the OP.  UndertheOcean   Nov-27-09 04:23 PM   #12 
     - I'm not surprised they didn't charge her at that moment.  ohheckyeah   Nov-27-09 04:51 PM   #34 
        - The linked article says  TicketyBoo   Nov-28-09 08:25 AM   #113 
  - She looks like she could tear the nuts off of a brass elephant.  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-27-09 04:21 PM   #11 
  - Truer words have nevr been spoken. One can only wonder what he saw in her.  snagglepuss   Nov-27-09 06:17 PM   #50 
  - We haven't seen him, have we?  DemBones DemBones   Nov-27-09 11:29 PM   #96 
     - She looks old enough to be his grandmother. His pic is there, too.  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-28-09 07:56 AM   #108 
        - He's actually  TicketyBoo   Nov-28-09 08:26 AM   #114 
  - That doesn't prove she attacked Billy.  DemBones DemBones   Nov-27-09 11:31 PM   #97 
  - What the hell is wrong with people here today ...  etherealtruth   Nov-27-09 04:26 PM   #15 
  - +1000  UndertheOcean   Nov-27-09 04:31 PM   #20 
  - it's not funny  dana_b   Nov-27-09 05:23 PM   #44 
  - "Gallows" humor has always been with us.  timtom   Nov-27-09 07:38 PM   #68 
  - I've yet to read a story on here of a woman being abused by a male SO  JonQ   Nov-27-09 08:23 PM   #77 
  - So, what about the boy who jumped in the lake in Florida,  timtom   Nov-28-09 12:43 AM   #102 
  - This is beyond gallows humor, I think.  Toucano   Nov-28-09 10:47 AM   #123 
  - I don't find it funny either. It is in fact seriously fucked up. This woman will also abuse animals  anneboleyn   Nov-27-09 07:56 PM   #70 
  - That's how I feel ...  etherealtruth   Nov-27-09 08:03 PM   #72 
  - Well it's like the same way people make jokes when a woman gets beaten by her boyfriend  JonQ   Nov-27-09 08:07 PM   #76 
     - No, it's not a "double standard." This presentation of this story is from a tabloid  omega minimo   Nov-27-09 10:36 PM   #86 
  - "Wedding tackle"??  Tab   Nov-27-09 04:30 PM   #17 
  - That's what I'm calling it from now on.  Sheltiemama   Nov-27-09 05:15 PM   #42 
  - That article reads like it was written by Austin Powers.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-09 08:04 PM   #73 
  - That's it! Off with her head.  RedCloud   Nov-27-09 10:29 PM   #82 
  - It's a fishing story: She grabbed his rod and tried to cast straight off into the river.  RedCloud   Nov-27-09 10:31 PM   #83 
  - An Atlanta Braves fan in Dundee? RED FLAG!  aikoaiko   Nov-27-09 04:33 PM   #21 
  - That's just nuts.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-09 04:34 PM   #23 
  - Quit hornin' in on my schtick!  Robb   Nov-27-09 06:33 PM   #63 
  - Owwww  DearAbby   Nov-27-09 04:34 PM   #24 
  - Helen Hodge was a cute baby, too ..  DemoTex   Nov-27-09 04:38 PM   #28 
  - +1 x 10,000,000  devilgrrl   Nov-27-09 06:26 PM   #56 
  - Released without charge. Amazing.  HughBeaumont   Nov-27-09 04:38 PM   #29 
  - Yeah, you're right..  left coaster   Nov-27-09 05:01 PM   #38 
     - Um, where am I playing it?  HughBeaumont   Nov-27-09 06:27 PM   #58 
     - Yeah.  TicketyBoo   Nov-28-09 08:31 AM   #115 
  - "He probably did it to himself..."  flvegan   Nov-27-09 04:41 PM   #30 
  - What you said  Dead_Parrot   Nov-27-09 05:01 PM   #37 
  - Freakier shit has happened.  LeftyMom   Nov-27-09 08:25 PM   #78 
     - Oh, my.  TicketyBoo   Nov-28-09 08:35 AM   #116 
  - Domestic violence - the guy reads like a typical domestic abuse victim  varelse   Nov-27-09 04:48 PM   #32 
  - I liked this part " He called his wee brother Darren".  dixiegrrrrl   Nov-27-09 04:54 PM   #36 
  - Yeah, is that normal usage for a news story?  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-09 05:04 PM   #39 
  - Scottish colloquialism  Dead_Parrot   Nov-27-09 05:10 PM   #40 
  - Yeah, that stood out over everything else. What the hell is that?  graywarrior   Nov-27-09 06:28 PM   #60 
  - Sounds like heroic work by the National Health Service socialized medicine nt  cadmium   Nov-27-09 05:12 PM   #41 
  - That's a good tactic for someone who is being raped,  undeterred   Nov-27-09 05:18 PM   #43 
  - Seems like just getting  Mz Pip   Nov-27-09 05:36 PM   #45 
  - ouch my balls  spanone   Nov-27-09 05:37 PM   #46 
  - I don;t even own a pair and they're hurtin".  snagglepuss   Nov-27-09 06:10 PM   #49 
  - maybe he wasn't cheating, maybe she's an abuser  corpseratemedia   Nov-27-09 05:37 PM   #47 
  - +1  snagglepuss   Nov-27-09 06:20 PM   #53 
  - ... or maybe he was cheating ....  etherealtruth   Nov-27-09 07:30 PM   #67 
  - amen. The fact that she was beating his face before mutilating his testicles -- she is an abuser.  anneboleyn   Nov-27-09 08:02 PM   #71 
  - send her up to jail, that is disgusting.  Whisp   Nov-27-09 06:20 PM   #52 
  - Wow  Canuckistanian   Nov-27-09 06:27 PM   #59 
  - I'm seeing 1% Leonardo DiCaprio in that face - anyone?  tomm2thumbs   Nov-27-09 06:29 PM   #61 
  - these threads  reflection   Nov-27-09 06:31 PM   #62 
  - until they're moved to the Lounge where they belong.  omega minimo   Nov-27-09 10:33 PM   #85 
  - UGH  NikolaC   Nov-27-09 06:37 PM   #65 
  - Wow! They weren't even married  ecstatic   Nov-27-09 07:38 PM   #69 
  - I see a football riot in her future.  arcadian   Nov-27-09 08:05 PM   #75 
  - Two words come to mind  Iwillnevergiveup   Nov-27-09 08:30 PM   #79 
  - Has Anyone Seen the Movie, "Antichrist"? ***spoiler***  NYC_SKP   Nov-27-09 10:12 PM   #80 
  - That's one way for a man to get his rocks off. I do not recommend it.  Kaleva   Nov-27-09 10:21 PM   #81 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-27-09 10:40 PM   #89 
  - OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW!!!!!  Initech   Nov-27-09 11:02 PM   #95 
  - She looks like 34 going on 50  Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin   Nov-27-09 11:38 PM   #98 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-27-09 11:55 PM   #100 
     - In fact, we never sleep. But, fear not!  EFerrari   Nov-28-09 01:18 AM   #106 
     - Umm... I am one of "the feminists"  PeaceNikki   Nov-28-09 08:09 AM   #110 
  - It's not the first time this has happened in the UK,in the last case  HipChick   Nov-28-09 12:39 AM   #101 
  - I would think that  TicketyBoo   Nov-28-09 08:51 AM   #120 
  - Another tabloid story  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-28-09 01:01 AM   #104 
  - This is just...wrong. >shudder< I see prison in her future, if on police investigation she did this  Hekate   Nov-28-09 01:10 AM   #105 
  - LOL Not a CHANCE!  comtec   Nov-28-09 02:17 AM   #107 
     - Again, I am one of "the feminists"  PeaceNikki   Nov-28-09 08:12 AM   #111 
        - Exactly!  etherealtruth   Nov-28-09 08:35 AM   #117 
        - not as off base as either of us would like to think  comtec   Nov-28-09 10:36 AM   #121 
           - I beg to differ.  PeaceNikki   Nov-28-09 10:47 AM   #124 
  - That is one tough looking broad  Sanity Claws   Nov-28-09 08:36 AM   #118 
  - And she smokes. Steals his balls AND  JustABozoOnThisBus   Nov-28-09 08:43 AM   #119 
  - Locking  cbayer   Nov-28-09 11:03 AM   #125 
 
bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:13 PM
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1. Um
Never mind. I better not say anything.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:14 PM
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2. That seems kind of harsh.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:15 PM
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3. OUCH.
If she did it, that psycho-hose beast needs a trip to the clink.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:17 PM
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6. If a man did something horrible like that to a woman ....
would you dare say something as stupid as "If he did it ... " in here .

Yeah , ripping your own balls off with your bare hands is very likely.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:25 PM
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14. weren't you the DUer who decided Polanski couldn't be a rapist because of his movies?
I think saying "if she did it" or "if he did it" is far more logical than assuming someone couldn't have raped because you like his artistic output.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:31 PM
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19. That is some good ownage right there.

:applause:
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:37 PM
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27. Only for feeble minded people who can't stay on topic , and who don't understand
that "Ad hominem" attacks are not valid logical arguments.

I may have said a few days ago that my cat can talk , that has no bearing whatsoever to the argument I am making right now , in this thread.

I am wasting my time here trying to explain what should be evident to anyone with average intelligence.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:40 PM
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90. that's not "ad hominem"
that's reading the not-so-hidden message in a trail of doo doo. :thumbsdown:
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:46 PM
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92. which is ? enlighten me with thine wisdom
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:07 AM
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109. Yeah it was you that said that about Polanski
so I guess I cant take you seriously.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:33 PM
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22. So your argument is so weak , you had to change the subject .... I said I will not discuss the
Polanski matter anymore in here , and I will stick to that promise.

Stay on topic.
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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:36 PM
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26. because you know you were wrong for defending a rapist?nt
Edited on Fri Nov-27-09 04:37 PM by Cash_thatswhatiwant
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:22 PM
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54. oh,talking about Polanski... I';ve noticed on CNN he is
said to have had 'sex with a 13 year old'.

sorry, rape is not sex you fucking moranic CNN twits. *snaps pencil in half with an angry glare
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:38 PM
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87. how obvious do you need to be?
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:39 PM
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88. sorry , what the heck are you talking about ?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:42 PM
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91. dropping turds and stirring
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:47 PM
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93. huh ? Are you drunk. I an ending this now , welcome to my ignore list
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:51 PM
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94. Can you put yourself on Ignore so the rest of us can't see you?
:patriot:
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 11:46 PM
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99. Here's a story about a guy ripping his own testicles off:

A LEGAL drug known as 'meow meow' led one lad to rip off his own SCROTUM, police said today.
The lad hallucinated for 18 hours and mutilated himself because he believed centipedes were crawling over his body and biting him.

Cops warned people to stay away from the drug Mephedrone which is sold legally on the internet as PLANT FERTILISER.

Its chemical formula is one molecule different to ecstasy and as such dealers are claiming is not a controlled substance.

rest of story at

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2747979/Lad-r...

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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 12:45 AM
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103. Hey, the article was unclear, If she did it, she needs to be jail...
She's an abuser and there is no excuse or reason for that behavior.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:15 PM
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4. Who wrote The Critique of Pure Reason?
Last name only, please.
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:50 PM
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33. cheeky
I wonder how many people got that?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:08 PM
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66. Who me? I'm just asking a factual question
:evilgrin:
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:54 PM
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35. Kant ? (Immanuel Kant)
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cowcommander Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:16 PM
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5. I see she's been practicing in the martial arts
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:08 PM
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48. LOL. You are so bad.
:spank:
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:19 PM
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51. "Monkey Steals the Peach"
:rofl: and 'ouch'.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:26 PM
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57. not funny.
you would not DARE to laugh if it was a woman that was assaulted in a similar way.

jesus cripes.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:34 PM
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64. I'm laughing at the poster, knucklehead.
Meanwhile, I'm walking funny just thinking about this.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:24 PM
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55. "Monkey steals the Peach"
Hmmm... I wasn't taught that one in Judo class, nor did I see it in any of my Karate or Jiu-jitsu books.

Maybe it's in "Man Hater for Dummies".

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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:19 AM
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112. Nope.
It's from the book Ninja Mind Control.

http://www.amazon.com/Ninja-Mind-Control-Ashida-Kim/dp/...

I doubt there's a book entitled Man Hater for Dummies. It's pretty instinctual, I think.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:17 PM
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7. Sadly, some will say domestic violence against men is ok/ funny (like prison rape)-men's forum?
Nah, too controversial..... :evilgrin:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:35 PM
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25. I wouldn't be one of those people.
I was in a "reverse" domestically violent relationship (really shouldn't say that, because it DOES happen to men more than people think) and it sucked. Good thing I got out, because who would America believe if I defended myself? Who would anyone believe if I told them SHE was assaulting ME?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:44 PM
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31. Been there myself sadly, and just don't like to talk about it :( (nt)
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:04 PM
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74. No way, if men got their own forum surely they would just make jokes
like about how domestic abuse and rape against women is hilarious. You know, in stark contrast to the sensitivity and empathy shown for men who are victims of spousal abuse and rape on here.

That's why this post has nothing but harsh condemnation of the woman involved, sympathy for the man and a complete absence of jokes.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:31 PM
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84. Who will say that?
Edited on Fri Nov-27-09 10:32 PM by omega minimo
:evilfrown:
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #7
122. SICK SICK SICK society!
Do the people who joke about mutilation of a man's genitals NOT have sons or nephews or ANY males they could relate to?

I can't imagine who could read this story and think "there must be a joke in there somewhere".
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:18 PM
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8. The balls' in her court.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:21 PM
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9. Wow ? That monster was not even charged ? typical.
Edited on Fri Nov-27-09 04:21 PM by UndertheOcean
If a woman accuses a man of hitting her , even with no battery evidence on her body he is sent right away to jail .
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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:23 PM
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13. Only men can abuse, dontchakno
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:28 PM
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16. Can you back that statement up with facts? n/t
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:30 PM
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18. The OP says that she was released without being charged
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:21 PM
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10. She didn't really deny it
with any vehemence, did she? I see jail time in her future...rightly so.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:23 PM
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12. She was realesed without charge !!!! read the OP.
Unless they can charge her later ? but with the evidence how could they release her the first time.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:51 PM
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34. I'm not surprised they didn't charge her at that moment.
But if they do any investigating and she was the person he was with just prior to the injury, she will be charged.

I read the OP, thanks for the tip though.

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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:25 AM
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113. The linked article says
he's saying he doesn't remember what happened.

I can see two different explanations for this: one, he doesn't want to send the mother of his child to jail; or, two, and in my opinion the most likely explanation, he was too drunk to really remember exactly what happened (so he's telling the truth when he says he doesn't remember). I mean, if he was so out of it after "celebrating" the previous night to realize that he needed medical attention, and, instead, called his younger brother, can't you see that as a possible scenario?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:21 PM
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11. She looks like she could tear the nuts off of a brass elephant.
Shouldn'ta messed with her, Billy...............
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:17 PM
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50. Truer words have nevr been spoken. One can only wonder what he saw in her.
:freak:
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 11:29 PM
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96. We haven't seen him, have we?

Yet you assume he "could have done better " just because he's a man?

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:56 AM
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108. She looks old enough to be his grandmother. His pic is there, too.
Edited on Sat Nov-28-09 08:27 AM by TheCowsCameHome
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #108
114. He's actually
15 years older than she is, according to the article.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 11:31 PM
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97. That doesn't prove she attacked Billy.

Innocent until proven guilty, remember? And nobody is ever guilty because s/he looks like s/he could have done it.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:26 PM
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15. What the hell is wrong with people here today ...
Joking about gruesome violence .... mocking/joking about poverty .... perhaps I have no sense of humor today, but I "gotta" admit, I DON'T WANT to find this stuff funny!
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:31 PM
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20. +1000
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:23 PM
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44. it's not funny
just because this man's testicles were injured and not say his arm or leg, people find it funny to make bad jokes. Yes, I do have a sense of humor if something is truly funny - this is not.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:38 PM
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68. "Gallows" humor has always been with us.
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #68
77. I've yet to read a story on here of a woman being abused by a male SO
mutilated even, where people joked about it.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #77
102. So, what about the boy who jumped in the lake in Florida,
and had his arm bitten off by a gator?

While he did something stupid (who didn't at 18?), DUers dogpiled on with stupid humor and excoriation.

And he will be without an arm the rest of his life.

Gallows humor, like tragedy (Greek tragedy, that is), serves society as a means to rid oneself of the horror.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 10:47 AM
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123. This is beyond gallows humor, I think.
If the sexes of the story were reversed and a man mutilated a woman's genitals, I don't think ANYONE would feel compelled to make a wisecrack.
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:56 PM
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70. I don't find it funny either. It is in fact seriously fucked up. This woman will also abuse animals
and children -- if the studies are at all true about people who exhibit violence in this way. Sociopath. She was NOT protecting herself from domestic violence. She was the perp, and she acted in a sick and sadistic way by beating this man and then ripping his genitalia. Everyone in here would be screaming if a man mutilated a woman in this brutal way. This woman is clearly a threat -- violent and sadistic. And also, judging by her picture, a real class act.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:03 PM
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72. That's how I feel ...
The gender of the perpetrator and victim have nothing to do with it. When a man mutilates a woman it is not funny ... when a woman mutilates a man it is not funny. Violence does not lend itself to humor.
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:07 PM
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76. Well it's like the same way people make jokes when a woman gets beaten by her boyfriend
Ha, I guess she won't burn his dinner again, or now she won't talk during the superbowl.

Oh wait, those jokes are not acceptable. Anyone who says such a thing gets their post removed immediately and likely banned. There is no humor at all in physically harming a woman.

I guess it must be a double standard.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #76
86. No, it's not a "double standard." This presentation of this story is from a tabloid
Edited on Fri Nov-27-09 10:37 PM by omega minimo
from another culture with different language and customs and a bizarre smirking photo of the accused and a weird shot of the bloke who doesn't want to prosecute.

Fuck your "double standard."

The story is serious. The presentation including "rips off testicles" BS belongs in the Lounge.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:30 PM
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17. "Wedding tackle"??

He needs a new lure.
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Sheltiemama Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:15 PM
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42. That's what I'm calling it from now on.
God love the English.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #42
73. That article reads like it was written by Austin Powers.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:29 PM
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82. That's it! Off with her head.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:31 PM
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83. It's a fishing story: She grabbed his rod and tried to cast straight off into the river.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:33 PM
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21. An Atlanta Braves fan in Dundee? RED FLAG!

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:34 PM
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23. That's just nuts.
Well, someone had to say it.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #23
63. Quit hornin' in on my schtick!
:rofl:

...I think I was going to post, "Aw, nuts!" :D
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:34 PM
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24. Owwww
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:38 PM
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28. Helen Hodge was a cute baby, too ..

Then ..


Now ..
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #28
56. +1 x 10,000,000
:thumbsup:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:38 PM
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29. Released without charge. Amazing.
What sort of charges would a man get if he ripped a woman's breast off? Probably at least 3 to 5.

But hey, it's PERFECTLY OK to tear a man's genitals off. It's even FUNNY now. Absolutely Amazing. :eyes:
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left coaster Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #29
38. Yeah, you're right..
We really know how to nip domestic violence against women in the bud, here in this country...


On average 3 women are killed by their domestic partner EVERY DAY, in the US. The number of women physically assaulted, often brutally, runs in the thousands per year. Do you really want to play the comparison game here?

This is a horrible crime of domestic violence, and in this case the victim happens to be male.. it's not ok, period.


I notice a story like this gets a hell of a lot more attention on DU, than any regarding violence against women. No surprise there, either.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #38
58. Um, where am I playing it?
Doesn't matter what bathroom they go to, mutilation is mutilation and she should be charged with such, not let off the hook because of some stupid "just desserts" numbers excuse. Please don't give me that it's the "correct" thing to think "well, he's a man so he likely deserved it".

We don't know how to nip domestic violence PERIOD in the bud.
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #38
115. Yeah.
I notice a story like this gets a hell of a lot more attention on DU, than any regarding violence against women. No surprise there, either.


It's the "man bites dog" syndrome. More newsworthy than the more common violence against women.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:41 PM
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30. "He probably did it to himself..."
Ohhh, no no no, I don't think so.
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #30
37. What you said
No no no no no no, lots more no, with a "Hell no!" on the end.

Cut your own arm off? Gritty determination.
Self immolation? Dedication.
Rip your own nuts off? Fuck that.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:25 PM
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78. Freakier shit has happened.
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #78
116. Oh, my.
Now that is just nasty!

That's one hazard of masturbation I hadn't heard about before!
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:48 PM
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32. Domestic violence - the guy reads like a typical domestic abuse victim
I'm glad the surgeons were able to repair the horrendous damage to his body. I hope someone can persuade him to press charges against the woman and testify at her trial.

Surgeons managed to save both of his testicles during the operation at Ninewells Hospital, Dundee, on Monday.

Billy - who has been in a relationship with Helen for seven years - was allowed home yesterday lunchtime.

The source added: "Billy is really embarrassed about the whole thing and wants to try to forget about it. He's now telling the police he can't remember what happened as he doesn't want Helen charged for the sake of her wee boy."

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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:54 PM
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36. I liked this part " He called his wee brother Darren".
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. Yeah, is that normal usage for a news story?
Or was some British wag making a funny?
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #39
40. Scottish colloquialism
"Wee" means little (ie, He called his younger brother Darren). Pretty much all Brits will understand it, so there's no need to paraphrase the quote for a UK readership.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #36
60. Yeah, that stood out over everything else. What the hell is that?
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:12 PM
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41. Sounds like heroic work by the National Health Service socialized medicine nt
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:18 PM
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43. That's a good tactic for someone who is being raped,
if she can do it. Really nasty way of getting revenge.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:36 PM
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45. Seems like just getting
a new boyfriend would have been a better idea.

Seems odd that she wasn't charged. That's pretty heavy duty assault.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:37 PM
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46. ouch my balls
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #46
49. I don;t even own a pair and they're hurtin".
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:37 PM
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47. maybe he wasn't cheating, maybe she's an abuser
abusers can make any excuse - and they like to say things like "they probably did it to themselves."

He should not be going back to her, her statements are no different than a male abuser.

If I were this man's sister, and I knew she'd committed this act....I'd try to get her jailed or committed!
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:20 PM
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53. +1
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #47
67. ... or maybe he was cheating ....
... either way she is a violent abuser.
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #47
71. amen. The fact that she was beating his face before mutilating his testicles -- she is an abuser.
And abusers always have great excuses about how the other person "made" them angry.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:20 PM
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52. send her up to jail, that is disgusting.
as disgusting as a man ripping a woman's breasts off, or similar.

put her away, she's a dangerous fucking idiot.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:27 PM
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59. Wow
I've been in a few bars at 3:00 in the morning. But I think I'd give this one a pass.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:29 PM
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61. I'm seeing 1% Leonardo DiCaprio in that face - anyone?
oh, and oweeeeee!!!
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:31 PM
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62. these threads
Always follow the same geometric devolution. Love em.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:33 PM
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85. until they're moved to the Lounge where they belong.
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:37 PM
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65. UGH
I'm a woman and this makes me cringe and nauseous. Sorry, there is no excuse for what she allegedly did.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:38 PM
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69. Wow! They weren't even married
He should run... fast!
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:05 PM
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75. I see a football riot in her future.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:30 PM
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79. Two words come to mind
Crystal meth.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:12 PM
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80. Has Anyone Seen the Movie, "Antichrist"? ***spoiler***
I only caught the last half of it, in which a woman stomps Willem DaFoe's package with a large log.

She goes on to drill a hole through his leg and bolts a large stone wheel thereto.

Eventually, something else happens.

gruesome.

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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:21 PM
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81. That's one way for a man to get his rocks off. I do not recommend it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:40 PM
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89. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 11:02 PM
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95. OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW!!!!!
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 11:38 PM
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98. She looks like 34 going on 50
Don't care whether the guys guilty of cheating on her or not her violence is not justified. The best thing for her to do in this situation is to get the fuck out of the relationship period.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 11:55 PM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 01:18 AM
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106. In fact, we never sleep. But, fear not!
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:09 AM
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110. Umm... I am one of "the feminists"
And I vehemently disagree with this woman's actions. And I am not a "man-hater" like you describe.

You can stop the broad-brushing bullshit now.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 12:39 AM
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101. It's not the first time this has happened in the UK,in the last case
they could not re-attacked his balls..

and she got 2yrs in prison
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:51 AM
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120. I would think that
they would not need to be "re-attacked." One attack was plenty, evidently.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 01:01 AM
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104. Another tabloid story
:yawn:

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 01:10 AM
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105. This is just...wrong. >shudder< I see prison in her future, if on police investigation she did this
:scared:
I mean, she's out now, but I'm sure the cops are doing a thorough check into her life as we speak (or post, whatever).

Hekate

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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 02:17 AM
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107. LOL Not a CHANCE!
He's not pressing charges, too embarrassed to admit he was beat up "by a girl" or some bullshit like that.
all that's going to happen is some inappropriate jokes, and feminists on this board are going to dance around singing "yay his balls got ripped off! One for the gals!"

This person will get off completely scott free.

There is no justice ever for men who are beaten by their lovers.
It simply isn't done to admit that a man is beaten up by a female.

That is the flip side of this patriarchal system the feminists always ignore.

If you're on the wrong side (as MOST men actually are) you are 5 kinds of fucked.
You can NOT show emotions
you can NOT admit to bein g beaten up, ever, by anyone (100000x true if it's a woman)
you MUST try to get the most money and toys
and if you fail to adhere to all 3 rules at once, you ARE a failure as a man.

Yay patriarchal systems, where men are on top (LOL)

Mind you, I am happy to let women run things. The world WAS a more peaceful place then. Matriarchal societies are/were generally very peaceful.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:12 AM
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111. Again, I am one of "the feminists"
And your implication that we "feminists" dance and sing and cheer this type of thing on is way off base.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:35 AM
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117. Exactly!
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 10:36 AM
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121. not as off base as either of us would like to think
i've become increasingly mortified by the things SOME of the feminists on here say and think.
men hunting is perfectly legal, extra points for men who are trying to live up to the feminist expectation.

I don't know what it is, but in the last year they (and i admit it's a small very vicious minority) have gotten increasingly verbal and cruel.

There is no right that any man can do it seems.

Attacking the men who are trying to be genuinely sensitive is not helping the sexist problem. We are attacked by the MEN who see us as too panty-waist and we;re attacked by feminists for just being men, we can't win.

what's the point?
for me it's how I was brought up. it's too ingrained in who I am. I will never be MANLY, and it seems i'll never be accepted or acknowledged by the left either.

im in a no-man's zone... literally.

forgive me if im rather sharp in my criticism, but it does bear out as true on this board it seems.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 10:47 AM
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124. I beg to differ.
And find it ironic that you paint "feminists" with the same broad brush with which you do not wish to be painted.

Most feminists are not "man-haters" and it's really sad that a few (here on DU?) have given you that perception.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:36 AM
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118. That is one tough looking broad
She looks a lot older than 34. Drugs and alcohol can do that.
She said, "he'd accused of doing stuff before to him but has never been able to prove it." That's not what one says when they were falsely accused. That's what one says when they've been able to fuck over someone's mind pretty bad.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:43 AM
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119. And she smokes. Steals his balls AND
gives him second-hand smoke.

Beyatch.

No mercy for the smoker.

:hi:
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 11:03 AM
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125. Locking
Seems there is not much more to say about this at this point, and it is degenerating at points.

cbayer
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