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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 04:21 AM
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Congress May Probe Leaked Global Warming E-Mails
Source: CBS

A few days after leaked e-mail messages appeared on the Internet, the U.S. Congress may probe whether prominent scientists who are advocates of global warming theories misrepresented the truth about climate change.

Sen. James Inhofe, an Oklahoma Republican, said on Monday the leaked correspondence suggested researchers "cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not," according to a transcript of a radio interview posted on his Web site. Aides for Rep. Darrell Issa, a California Republican, are also looking into the disclosure.

The leaked documents (see our previous coverage) come from the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia in eastern England. In global warming circles, the CRU wields outsize influence: it claims the world's largest temperature data set, and its work and mathematical models were incorporated into the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's 2007 report. That report, in turn, is what the Environmental Protection Agency acknowledged it "relies on most heavily" when concluding that carbon dioxide emissions endanger public health and should be regulated.

Last week's leaked e-mails range from innocuous to embarrassing and, critics believe, scandalous. They show that some of the field's most prominent scientists were so wedded to theories of man-made global warming that they ridiculed dissenters who asked for copies of their data ("have to respond to more crap criticisms from the idiots"), cheered the deaths of skeptical journalists, and plotted how to keep researchers who reached different conclusions from publishing in peer-reviewed journals.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml



oh for fuck's sake...you skeptical assclowns want to do something useful? go probe the Pentagon or the CIA or Blackwater or insider trading or the case for the Iraq invasion or Cheney or any number of Bush administration dirty tricks...

of course, the deniers have their little plaything to justify their willful ignorance, so it could be another two years before the issue can even be discussed like adults, much less actually taking meaningful action...jesus christ, why couldn't they have hacked into some evolution scientists' server (or is that next on their list?)

and as a personal note, I'm disappointed to see the number of MSM bloggers trying to play up some kind of baseless "pentagon papers II" angle while no one wants to question who hacked the servers and why (and why the timing seems oh so coincidental)...
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 04:29 AM
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1. You gonna probe that email by Jack Abramoff which he knew of the Iraq War in 2002?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 04:34 AM
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2. Holy smoking gun, batman!
they ridiculed dissenters who asked for copies of their data ("have to respond to more crap criticisms from the idiots"), cheered the deaths of skeptical journalists, and plotted how to keep researchers who reached different conclusions from publishing in peer-reviewed journals.

Oh my. :sarcasm:

They ridiculed the skeptics! Cheered the deaths of skeptical journalists! Plotted how to keep idiots...er other researchers from publishing!

Doesn't say they fabricated the data. Doesn't say that there is email evidence of scientists conspiring to invent both a theory and fabricate facts to support it.

All is says it that there were emails where someone called an idiot an idiot (instead of being politically correct).

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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 04:58 AM
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3. More "teach the controversy" BS.
1000 scientists believe in gravity, 1 doesn't, so give them both equal weight!

*sigh*
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SergeStorms Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 07:38 AM
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4. It amazes me........
that these scientists' emails - their mere thoughts about global warming - were enough to convince the polar icecaps to play along by increasing the rate at which they're melting. These emails also influenced the oceans, which decided to rise just to appease the scientists' quack theories . Yep, these emails are proof positive that global warming is a hoax. The icecaps and ocean water levels really have egg on their faces now, huh? :eyes:
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:35 PM
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5. OK now I didn't read that in any of this mess...
What I did read is that the earth is warming and cooling and warming, I think there can be no doubt that the earth is going through climate change. The point I am making is and the lack of true evidence that Man is the cause agent. Thats where the emails start to get wobbly. I think there are many scientists that would say yes the earth is warming and if questioned is it directly because of mans influence on the planet i.e. carbon related thats where the dissent comes in.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:38 PM
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6. good point that will get lost on both believers and non believers
no matter what the numbers that these guys have given to the world should be relooked at at least in order to make sure that there was no fudging of the stats... i think the most important thing anyone should want is to find out the truth...
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:09 PM
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7. Excellent, I am in total agreement...n/t
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