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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:13 PM
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Fundies prepare to attack 10-yr-old who refuses to say Pledge of Allegiance in solidarity w/LGBTs
from the haters at the American Family Assn:



5th-grader doesn't pledge allegiance
Charlie Butts - OneNewsNow - 11/24/2009 6:20:00 AM


A 10-year-old Arkansas boy is refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in order to support special rights for homosexuals.

Will Phillips attends West Fork Elementary School in Arkansas and appeared on CNN, where he was asked why he refused to say the Pledge. "Well, I looked at the end (of the Pledge) and it said, 'with liberty and justice for all' -- and there really isn't liberty and justice for all," the student contends. "Gays and lesbians can't marry. There's still a lot of racism and sexism in the world."

After days of Phillips' refusal to voice the Pledge, the substitute teacher confronted him about it. The discussion led to an argument, and the fifth-grader reports: "I eventually, very solemnly, with a little bit of malice in my voice, said, 'Ma'am, with all due respect, you can go jump off a bridge.'"

Matt Barber of Liberty Counsel believes the boy has been "utterly manipulated and exploited by adult moral relativists who are indirectly using him and other children as political pawns in the burgeoning culture war that is reaching a boil."

Barber further finds that "it's really a testament to the level of success that liberal and secular and homosexual activist propagandists in Hollywood and in our public schools and in much of our elitist establishment organizations have enjoyed."

The lesson this incident sends, according to Barber, is that it is time for parents to responsibly teach their children the correct, Christian message concerning homosexuality.


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=78092...


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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:15 PM
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1. That little boy is a national gem and we should all be proud of him. Yet,
here we go againg with fucking lunatic fundies!

Jesus Christ!

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:16 PM
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2. The Taliban needs to get the fuck out of this country!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:22 PM
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5. A-FUCKING-MEN!!!
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:53 PM
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28. Absolutely! Maybe they can go live on some uninhabitated island.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:17 PM
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3. Hopefully,
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 01:19 PM by LWolf
the real teacher would have known better.

I have to stand with my students, in the gym, every school morning while the pledge is recited. I rarely recite. When I do, it's to join in for that last line: "with liberty and justice for all."

The whole school is there. There are plenty of students not reciting. No teacher has ever made an issue of it.

When a students asks me why I don't recite with them, I reply,

"The purpose is for you to learn the pledge, by practicing it. I've already learned it. Once I've made a pledge, I either meant it, and will honor it, or I didn't, and won't. Repeating it doesn't change that. It just makes me feel like my word isn't trusted."
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:24 PM
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7. We tell our daughter she needn't "pledge" jack shit...and even though I've had good...
... experiences w/her teachers thus far, I've yet to get a straight response from any of them, or from admins, as to 'why' the need to force children to recite a "pledge" they know nothing about - in theory, language, terms, implications, etc. Such a bullshit move tends to raise my suspicions that the endeavor is simply intended to churn out 'good' and 'normal' people who, like Good Americans, question nothing.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:38 PM
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12. You don't get a straight response from teachers
because it could backfire on them in a nasty way.

I think there is the same ratio of those who view the pledge as a sacred symbol of necessary patriotism and those who view it differently in education as anywhere else. Pushing that political hot-button is hazardous to one's job.

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:40 PM
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14. Well, I've gotten the 'knowing' look, suggesting kindred spirits...but nothing direct
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:54 PM
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18. Probably all you'll get,
unless you run into them again when your kid/s are out of the system they work in.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:10 PM
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22. By & large she's had very liberal, fantastic women for teachers...
... not bashful re political stance to a degree, but questioning the Holy "Pledge" even rubs many liberals the wrong way...at least to the extent that the topic is usually dodged in favor of something safer.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:58 PM
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31. Yes.
I don't ever question it at work. I want to keep working.

I just don't say it.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:20 PM
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4. This young man sees the dishonestly of our culture and has the courage
to speak out about it. The AFA and their ilk are cowards and envious that they can't use this child for their purposes.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:23 PM
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6. "the correct, Christian message concerning homosexuality"
is that it's none of my fucking business or anyone else's, and Jesus would say that too, you hypocritical piece of shit. Whatever happened to love thy neighbor?

I'm so sick of these assholes trying to dictate every piece of peoples' lives.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:27 PM
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8. bullying... that's what this is... purely bullying tactic
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 01:30 PM by fascisthunter
from adults... these people are pathetic fanatics.

On the bright side, this means the religious is much weaker than they realize. For them to go to such lengths toward a child, illustrates just how threatened they re of free thinking people.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:36 PM
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26. You are absolutely correct! They are left to attack children
they don't have much left!! They are pathetic!!
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:56 PM
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30. Idiots...this boy is brave and they are weak imbeciles.
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keith the dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:28 PM
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9. Will Phillips 2036!
I am so tired of those idiotic poor excuses for christians. At 10 this kid is twice as smart and twice as moral as those people. To think we will have to wait to 2036 to elect this kid President. I hope I live long enough to vote for him.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:29 PM
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10. Let's see.....
...these are the same assholes who have children picketing women's clinics with pictures of dead fetuses ~~ for whom they wish to have some kind of pre-born rights ~~ but a child who supports gay rights is brain washed.

GMAFB.... :eyes:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:44 PM
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16. Throw this one their way...
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 02:10 PM by Echo In Light


:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:31 PM
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11. Our religious nutjobs are no better than the ones we're fighting.
:banghead:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:40 PM
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13. Christian christian christian I am getting so damn sick and tired
of republicans pushing this theme. Goodness knows they are the real spawn of Satan.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:41 PM
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15. Suffer the Little Children to Come Unto Me
This kid is closer to Jesus, Unitarian-Universalism aside, than they'll ever hope to be.


"And they brought young children to Him, that He should touch them: and His disciples rebuked those that brought them. But when Jesus saw it, He was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto Me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God"
(Mark 10:13-14).
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:51 PM
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17. Jon Stewart had pro-wrestler Mick Foley (aka Mankind, Cactus Jack)
On his show to threaten anyone who went after the kid. I hope Mick is good to his word.

TlalocW
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:56 PM
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19. Show of hands: how many thought this wasn't going to happen?
The teabaggers/birthers/deathers/fundies/ad nauseum will attack anyone who dares demonstrate that what the former stands for is nucking futs.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:58 PM
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20. "Special" rights???
Human rights are not 'special' rights.

Fundie nutjob assholes always think equal rights for anyone other than straight, white, men are 'special'.
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:01 PM
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21. This child has an intellect greater than all of these fundies combined.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:12 PM
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23. Oh really?


I must have missed the protest against this.

Nobody excels at using children as political pawns quite like the RWers.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:15 PM
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24. And people wonder why no one takes to the streets to protest.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:16 PM
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25. A scholarship canidate if there ever was.....
If, somehow, we could find this young man an education worthy of his backbone and moral fiber, it would be a beautiful thing.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:40 PM
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27. "liberal and secular and homosexual activist propagandists in Hollywood"
Mr. Barber, you are a loon. That is all.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:54 PM
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29. Fuck that. I'll teach MY kids what *I* want, Mr. barber. Go eff off.
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 02:56 PM by krabigirl
Sorry, not teaching them your brand of "Christian" hate. It's no wonder your form of that religion is dying.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:59 PM
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32. These assholes have no shame!
:puke:
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:19 PM
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33. Matt Barber
Okay..that's kinda creepy. That's my name.

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:21 PM
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34. Fundies are unholy people
They are bad people.
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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:39 PM
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35. I am sure O'Reilly will be stalking him soon enough.
Billo would hide in the wastebasket in the cafeteria to ambush this youngster. I think the boy would probably show O"Reilly for the footstool he is.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:27 PM
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36. That kid ROCKS!
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