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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 03:58 PM
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I HOPE IT'S YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT DIE
"I HOPE IT'S YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT DIE" - US Representative Dana Rohrabacker
By US Army Reserves Colonel (Retired) Ann Wright, AfterDowningStreet.org
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/21501

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Rohrabacher said if European countries did not cooperate with the United States and go along with whatever the Bush administration wanted, they were condemning their countrymen to death by not using extralegal methods to imprison terrorist suspects. When citizens attending the hearing, including members of Codepink Women for Peace and Veterans for Peaceard Rohrabacher's statement, they collectively groaned. Then, much to the shock and disbelief of everyone in the hearing room, Rorhbacker said to those who had expressed displeasure at his statements:

"I hope it's your family members that die when terrorists strike."



At that point, I had had enough of Rohrabacher. I stood up and said "I did not serve 29 years in the US military and 16 years in the US diplomatic corps to see demise of the rule of law and violation of our own laws. Rohrback's statements are outrageous. No wonder the world hates us!"

Chairman Delahunt gaveled for me to stop speaking and I was escorted by the police out of the committee room. I was not arrested.

Remarkably, I do agree with one thing Rohrabacker said. "They hate us."

Rohrabacker finished his sentence with "They hate us because they hate our way of life." Unfortunately, many people do hate us, but it's not for our way of life.

Its for exactly the talk and actions that Rohrabacker and the Bush administration represent: illegal and unlawful actions, an arrogant attitude that America is always right and everyone else is wrong, that the world's resources are for the exclusive use of the United States and we have the right to invade and occupy any country."

Until we change the manner in which Presidential administrations and the Congress operate and the way we approach our membership in the community of nations, the world will continue to question what America stands for.

About the Author: Ann Wright retired as a Colonel after serving 13 years on active duty and 16 years in the US Army Reserves. After 16 years in the US diplomatic corps, she resigned in March, 2003 in opposition to the war on Iraq. She had been assigned in Nicaragua, Grenada, Somalia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Sierra Leone, Micronesia and Mongolia. She helped reopen the US Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan in December, 2001.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:00 PM
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1. Wow
My chin dropped to the floor.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:28 PM
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12. So did mine!
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:44 AM
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122. Dana...
is such a Repig ass...He needs to be shipped to Iraq strapped to a car-bomb....
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:31 PM
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19. What gollygee said.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:12 PM
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58. Video link here:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:27 PM
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60. Oh thank you so much!
I am at work and can't watch it here - damn. As soon as I get home, I can't wait to see this.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 01:36 PM
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127. This needs to be edited out, and put on YouTube!!
Those that have the technology, please do so as soon as possible. May it be the bigger than the alec baldwin voicemail.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:02 PM
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2. God , I love my political party
The other side is filled with loonies....
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 03:06 AM
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86. Now all the GOP has to do is get some campaign buttons like this


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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:03 AM
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120. Don't insult the late Lord Sutch
Many of the progressive ideas he brought up made sense and were implemented oddly enough.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Sutch
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:05 PM
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3. She was on the O'Liely Craptor a couple weeks back
Edited on Thu Apr-19-07 04:05 PM by hnmnf
He had the audacity to cut her mic after she asked him how much time he served. I love this woman.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:28 PM
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13. Ann is a shero to me.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:06 PM
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4. A US Representative said that?
SICK! SICK! SICK!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:29 PM
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14. Rohrbacker, a republican from CA
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 09:36 PM
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76. stupid little bastard
i hate anything republican
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 01:39 PM
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128. well that's the wackos for ya!
full of vitriol and foaming mouth syndrome... bastards.

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- check it out, top '08 stuff
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ROakes1019 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:07 PM
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5. that hearing
I stayed up until four in the morning watching that hearing and then I had nightmares. My god, Rorbacher is pathetic. Does he look a bit deformed in the head to you?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:29 PM
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15. Yes and his brain isn't functioning either
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:13 PM
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6. What an incredibly stupid thing to say!
:wtf:

Jeez, what a moran... :eyes:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:29 PM
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16. And damnit, where's the media?
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #16
30. Oh god, can you imagine if this had been a Dem?
We wouldn't even be hearing about Virginia Tech right now!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:53 PM
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31. Especially since there were Code Pinkers there!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:18 PM
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40. It is incredible to think that something like this would just be
shunted off to a siding by the media. This has to be one of the most incredibly stupid things a congresscritter ever said.

Sure hope those in his district people pick that up, it is an outrage, and people should be standing in line to slap him for being so dense... :(
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:33 PM
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45. What's his district?
What are the newspapers there?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:49 PM
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47. I don't know...I'm in NE, he's from that "liberal bastion" CA...
maybe he spent too much time in Ernest and Julio Gallo's winery... :D
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:15 PM
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7. wow...damn
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ends_dont_justify Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:17 PM
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8. lol, I misread the topic title as personal at first
But I think it's even more of a shock to me that an official said this, rather than a person on an internet forum. Very good way to get people to see just how psycho some of these officials are...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:30 PM
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17. Oh sorry
I hope your family members all live long and prosper. :)
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:17 PM
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9. The level of Weiner/Savage who told a caller: "I hope you get AIDS and die"
They are subhuman thugs.
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vireo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:25 PM
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10. Don't forget O'Reilly
O'Reilly to San Francisco: "If Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. ... You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200511100008
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:28 PM
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11. These fuggers are evil
Good fugging grief.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:31 PM
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18. Dana Ramboacher doing his usual blustering - appropriate to Jr. High School boys rooms.
All he lacks is the acne and the erection.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:44 PM
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25. these days, your average jr. high student could be suspended for saying that
Maybe Rep. Rohrbacher needs to take some vacation, spend a little time with his family.... just a thought.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:45 PM
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27. Oh come on!
For all you know, he could have acne AND an erection. :)

(or should it be x( )
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:32 PM
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20. any video of this for KO or The Daily Show?
The diseased bastard needs to be publically exposed and humiliated, if not brought up in front of the ethics comittee and censured.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #20
26. I would hope so
We need to spread this far and wide.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:28 PM
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61. here
http://boss.streamos.com/real/international/56_io041707 ... around the 2 hour 3 minute mark.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:14 PM
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72. That file is now 404ing
Edited on Thu Apr-19-07 08:18 PM by FatDave
Did it already get pulled?

On edit: the other links seem to be working.
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #72
107. We need to get proactive and get things like this on U-Tube for posterity.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #72
108. What other link?
There are two here and I can't get either one to open on my computer. GRRR
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #61
75. thank you, appreciate it!
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NNguyenMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:35 PM
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21. any chance anyone get this on audio or video? if so I will be the first to mail it everywhere
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slowry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:36 PM
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22. That is fucking
Edited on Thu Apr-19-07 04:36 PM by slowry
METAL :headbang:

RORH....BACKER! RORH....BACKER! RORH....BACKER!
RORH....RHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
*MINDLESS SPAGHETTI STRINGED GUITAR SOLO*
HEILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL








:sarcasm:
sorry :hippie:.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:38 PM
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23. Absolutely horrifying!
How does someone come to be so full of hate?!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:43 PM
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24. What a cockroach!

Typical scumbag war pig! He needs to go!

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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:46 PM
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28. Is there any actual, like, proof of that statement?
Dana is an asshat, but I find it hard to imagine a Rep saying that during a hearing. They usually are not politically suicidal.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:49 PM
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29. I trust Ann Wright implicitly
She wrote the article. I also trust David Swanson, who owns the website where it is posted. So yes, I am positive it is true.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:56 PM
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34. Okay...I know none of these people
So, again, I ask: Is there any proof of this statement?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:00 PM
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37. Ann Wright:
Mary Ann Wright (born 1947) is a retired United States Army colonel, retired official of the U.S. State Department, and now full-time anti-war activist.
Wright is most noted for being one of three U.S. State Department officials to publicly resign in direct protest of the invasion of Iraq in March, 2003.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Wright

http://www.swingthevote.us/wright.html

Are you not part of the peace movement? She is actually very well known.

David Swanson:
David Swanson is the Washington Director of Democrats.com and of ImpeachPAC.org. He is co-founder of the AfterDowningStreet.org / CensureBush.org coalition, creator of MeetWithCindy.org and KatrinaMarch.org, and a board member of Progressive Democrats of America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Swanson
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:00 PM
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49. They sound like neat people
Any proof of the statement that is not hearsay?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. She was there
She is not making this up.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:08 PM
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53. It's still hearsay
I hope it's true because I would love to Dana turned into a national joke.

But if you are going to make this kind of accusation, you had better be ready to back it up.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #53
62. I am not making any accusation
I posted an article written by my friend Ann Wright. And I resent your questions about her credibility.

The video link has been posted. If you were nicer, I would paste it here but I am going to let you look for it.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #28
43. It's not
political suicide if you are a republican.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 12:29 AM
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79. Kind of like bragging
about having sex with Ann Coulter. :puke:
Qualifications to be a Republican today: sociopath with thought disorders and loose associations.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 02:42 PM
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131. Re: Ann Coulter locker room brags -
ROFLMAO! I need to compose myself!

And, the rest of your post is right-on, as well.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:54 PM
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32. Wow,. I knew that Roarbacher was a huge douchebag, but damn!!!
What a fucking idiot! I hope he loses his seat because of this.
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 03:33 AM
Response to Reply #32
87. if Gonzales is any indication ...
Dana's job is secure.

Stoooopid republicants.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:55 PM
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33. God almighty, what a thing to say
That's just one step away from a terrorist's mentality: "If you don't act as I want, I'll kill your family" becomes "If you don't act as I want, I hope Those Others will kill your family!"

Whatever became of a greater president's saying, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"? These Republicans seem to want to instil as much 'fear itself' as possible, so as to help them control people.
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:10 AM
Response to Reply #33
96. It's terror when you use the common definition
Most definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear or "terror", are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a "madman" attack), and deliberately target "non-combatants".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism



What does he know about the next attack?
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:58 PM
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35. Dana would know about terrorists
He helped train them:

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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:59 PM
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36.  Rohrabacher never ceases to amaze me.
This went way over the line.

It's a waste of time to write to him.

Unfortunately, he's my congressman!

;(
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. I am so sorry
He is so bad.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #38
73. Thanks!

We keep trying to get good Dems. in that seat.

But OC is still a heavy Repub. Central.

One of these days- we'll make it.

;-) :hi:

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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #36
104. Please accept my condolences. n/t
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #104
110. Thanks!

:hi:
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republicansarewhores Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:03 PM
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39. O'Lielly had the nerve to denigrate Wright also...
From Crooks and Liars:

"Bill O'Reilly abuses and cuts the mic of retired Colonel Ann Wright, 29-year veteran of the US Army, after she refuses to fall victim to his leading, dishonest questions and smear tactics. Apparently in Bill's demented world, criticizing the actions of President Bush in explicitly violating international law something Col. Wright spent years teaching constitutes "blaming" America."

Video link here:

Why Does Bill OReilly Hate Our Troops and American Values?

It's unf*ckingbelievable what Billo gets away with.

RAW
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. I may be mistaken, but I thnk O'Reilly has a finacial stake in his
programming. If he, like some others, are their own production companies, they can get away w/all kinds of stuff.

These guys have a pretty good grasp of the way the media globs all over them because they bring in revenue.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:26 PM
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41. This Col. Ann Wright deserves to be in the terrorist hall of fame...
right next to James Madison, Tom Paine, Patrick Henry, and Samuel Adams. Forcing the government that protects us from a malevolent world to follow a set of prescriptive rules about what they can't do without some judge's permission is absolutely insane! What if there's a ticking atomic bomb at your virgin daughter's Sweet 16 party? What are you going to do then, Mr Fancy Shmancy surrender donkey? Sit around singing "Kumbaya, My Lord"?

hmmm, this rant needs editing... or more cowbell
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. So you disagree with her?
Hard to tell.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #44
64. No, I just wish I'd been invited to that Sweet 16 party
Edited on Thu Apr-19-07 06:34 PM by Bucky
(on edit: you got that first joke, didn't you?)
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 02:57 AM
Response to Reply #44
85. As I've said to others. Spend less time on FR.
When you need a blood dripping icon to recognise sarcasm, it's obvious that you're suffering second hand koolaid exposure.
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 03:47 AM
Response to Reply #85
88. HA!
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 03:50 AM by LaStrega
Assuming you mean "Free Republic" ohmygosh do I have a story concerning FR.

My (now ex-)husband introduced me to Free Republic. After two posts, I was promptly banned. I'm okay with that. But my (!) those loony republicants are not open to free (let alone intelligent and informed) speech. All I did was point out some obvious messing with the facts (kinda like how Fox News originally reported that Foley was a Democrat pfffft!) and *poof* I was gone. Again, I'm okay with that. I wish now, though, I'd taken a bit of a lighter stance, as I'd love to still be getting some panties (and/or boxer shorts) in a bunch there.

p.s. he's "Spruce" on FR. Give 'im hell. I know I do.

(edit: changed brackets to parenthesis to indicate husband is now EX-)
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 05:55 AM
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92. Welcome to DU LaStrega...
:hi:

As for posting on FR, I got one off and was banned. That was several years ago, but it was worth calling them out for their insipid discussions and "interesting" thought patterns... :D
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:17 PM
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146. Many thanks and glad to be here / meetcha
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:34 AM
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101. Excuse me?
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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:48 PM
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46. If someone could put a video of this on Youtube,
that would be very helpful.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:57 PM
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48. I don't know if there is a video of it.
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republicansarewhores Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:05 PM
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52. The video is at the link above at Crooks and Liars
Just click through the link to view it.

RAW
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:32 PM
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63. Thank you
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:05 PM
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51. Video of the hearing
Edited on Thu Apr-19-07 06:09 PM by Breeze54
"Video of the hearing

Submitted by stephaniewestbrook on Thu, 2007-04-19 21:07.

http://boss.streamos.com/real/international/56_io041707...

- 4 hours and 22 minutes (Egads!!)

(Can someone upload it and edit it to just those comments?)

Abominable statements at approx 2'03".

Thanks to Ann for the account and thanks to all the people
who believe in the rule of law for being there at the hearing."


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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:08 PM
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55. Is it really in there?
Because that would be kind of awesome.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:12 PM
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57. It says it's the hearing on the video
Edited on Thu Apr-19-07 06:15 PM by Breeze54
but I'm only at 7:22 seconds..... (dial-up) :(

I now hear talking..... It's definately a gov. hearing.

Clip Info:

Title Subcommittee on International Organizations, Human Rights, and Oversight

Artist / Source House Committee on Foreign Affairs

Copyright 2006

Length 4:22:04
File Size 1KB
Format RealVideo
Quality 75Kbps
Audio Channels 1
Rights Summary There are no rights or restrictions associated with this clip


Allow playback on PC No (play to authorize)
Content viewable until Unlimited


Copyright 2006
Composer -
Producer -
Publisher -
Label -
Distributors -
Studio -


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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:38 PM
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67. You should be able to fast forward. :)
I know that's what I did.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:55 PM
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70. If I had
Edited on Thu Apr-19-07 06:55 PM by Breeze54
dsl, I would. It's not possible using DU.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:36 AM
Response to Reply #51
103. Damnit I can't get that to open on my computer
Hopefully Crooks and Liars will put it up soon.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:08 PM
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54. What's in the Republican water these days?
Rohrbacher does this and McCain sings "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb-Bomb Iran."
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:10 PM
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56. Is this some statement from Notorious Cho or an elected Representative from the USCongress speaking?
Hard to tell.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:15 PM
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59. Someone please explain to me why Dubai
Edited on Thu Apr-19-07 06:18 PM by merh
has yet to be attacked by terrorists?

Isn't it the most westernized, gawdy display of wealth and excess that exists on this earth today?

Doesn't it fly in the face of all that the lunatics touting the "war on terror" try to make us believe?

Wouldn't the terrorists (if they truly hate us for our way of life, our freedoms) want to blow that "americanized" city off the face of the earth if terrorism really was an issue?

Dana Rohrabacker needs his head examined as do all that voted for him to sit in the house.

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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:50 AM
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105. Head examined?
How about 50,000 volts across the frontal lobes?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:46 AM
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111. would 50,000 volts be enough?
:shrug:
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 03:10 PM
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132. it should be enough to kill his one and only neuron n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 06:36 PM
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143. LOL
good point :thumbsup:

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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:34 PM
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65. not at all surprised
this is exactly why America is, justifiably so, the most hated nation on Earth. This country reputation is ruined by the violent bullying mindless thugs that ran it into the ground.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:36 PM
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66. K&R...n/t
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:42 PM
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68. What a hateful statement
Wishing death on someone's family because you disagree with them is just about one of the worst things you can do. It also says a lot about what kind of person this man is, it's pretty insane to say something like that.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:51 PM
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69. Holy cow. This is absolutely incredible.
:wow:
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 07:15 PM
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71. Kick and Rec n/t
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 09:07 PM
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74. Funny, Rohrabacker both trained and politically supported the Taliban ....
Edited on Thu Apr-19-07 09:11 PM by guruoo

Congressman Dana Rohrabacher (right)
training mujahideen in Afghanistan in 1988.


Rohrabacker today

http://www.answers.com/topic/dana-rohrabacher
<snip>
In the November/December 1996 issue of Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, Rohrabacher was reported as saying that the Taliban were not terrorists or revolutionaries, that they would develop a disciplined society that would leave no room for terrorists, and that the Taliban posed no threat to the United States.<15>

However, in a September 11, 1998 editorial in the The Washington Post, Rohrabacher strongly rebuked the Taliban for providing refuge to Osama bin Laden, mass killings of Shi'ites and ethnic Uzbeks, Turks, and Tajiks, and restrictions on the rights of Afghan women and children:

It has been no secret that bin Laden has been sheltered by the Taliban. The Clinton administration was mute while one of the most violent anti-Western Muslim sects spilled into Afghanistan from their Pakistan-based "religious schools" and took control of the capital. We remained paralyzed while they moved to destroy moderate Muslim forces. While administration officials expressed concern of the Taliban's complete denial of rights for women, it was little more than lip service. Even modest support from the United States for moderate Muslim forces in Afghanistan and serious political pressure on Pakistan could have thwarted the takeover of this strategically important country by these militant extremists. The danger of the spread of fanaticism expressed by the newly independent republics of Central Asia was smugly ignored.

During the summer of 2001, Rohrabacher made a trip to Qatar that was paid for by the Islamic Institute and the Government of Qatar, according to Rohrabachers financial disclosure forms. While in Qatar, Rohrabacher, Grover Norquist, and Khaled Saffuri met with Taliban Foreign Minister Mullah Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil. Wakil reportedly asked for help in increasing the amount of foreign aid sent by the United States to Afghanistan, apparently in exchange for U.S. oil company UNOCAL being allowed to construct of an oil pipeline through Afghanistan. If Rohrabacher was conducting diplomacy, he was in violation of the Logan Act, which prohibits citizens from doing so if not in an official capacity. Rohrabacher told wire service reporters who were present in Doha, Qatar at the time that he had discussed a peace plan with the Taliban. But Norquist, a close associate of Rohrabacher, said that the meeting happened accidentally and that it included Rohrabacher yelling at them about blowing up the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan.<16>

The Taliban later announced in Kabul that it had rejected what it considered were unreasonable demands by the U.S. side. Rohrabachers staff would not answer questions about the Taliban talks. <17>

After the September 11, 2001 attacks, Rohrabacher claimed that the attacks were due to incompetence on the part of the Clinton administration. <18>

http://www.answers.com/topic/dana-rohrabacher
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 10:50 PM
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77. We are witnessing the final shrieks of the dying elephant.
How pathetic their rhetoric has become. They are reduced to the rantings of Bush, "Bomb. bomb. bomb" McCain, Gonzo's lying. and this clown. Making themselves irrelevant seems to be happening at an accelerated pace.
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 03:55 AM
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89. Agreed!
They're driving themselves into the ground, all by themselves ... not surprisingly. Wish it would've been recognized by the American people a half-decade ago, though.

Oh well ... better late than never, as the saying goes.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:56 AM
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114. Welcome aboard!
Grab a chair and watch the spectacle as we explore The Elephant Graveyard on Wild Kingdom.....
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 11:14 PM
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78. KeithO needs to hear this!
Olbermann needs to hear this!
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maleficentia Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 12:35 AM
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80. What a Scumbag...
Anyway, for some clarification for those with slow connections, he wasn't exactly quoted correctly in the OP, from what I can hear on the video , this is what he said
2:03:14 - ...not let go 50 terrorist who will go out and plant a bomb in London and kill 20 thousand people in order to protect that one person who we arrested accidentally because his name was the same. thats the type of, Thats the type of unfortunate consequence,. ...well i I hope its your families, I hope its your families that suffer the consequences. Mr Chairmen..."

Can't believe this bag of meat is representing our country.

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 12:52 AM
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81. I sincerely hope his family isn't hurt from the karma...
...of his horrible comments. :(

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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 12:58 AM
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82. That's my congressmonkey!
Ain't I a happy constituent!?!
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 02:04 AM
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83. Dana@mail.house.gov if you don't agree, dana would like to hear from you
Dana is always looking for constructive remarks to improve his leadership.
Please write to him and let him know your opinion of this story and share the story with your friends.

Dana@mail.house.gov

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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:06 AM
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91. I wrote ...
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 04:07 AM by LaStrega
"I HOPE IT'S YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT DIE"

Wow. You're a colossal idiot. Thank gods we Democrats came out in droves to vote for a Democratic majority in BOTH the Senate and the House. Republicants of your ilk need to be ousted.

Regards

Amberlynne LaStrega




(edit: Thanks for the email linkage.)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:43 AM
Response to Reply #83
98. Welcome to DU, happygoluckytoyou.
I will write to this embarrassment to my state. :hi:
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 02:25 AM
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84. Rohrabacher is scum
I often envision him marching around in one of those German helmets in full SS garb. A better fascist you could not imagine.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 06:07 AM
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93. You're righter than you know. This POS is working with Duncan Hunter
and the CA Office of Homeland Sekurity to bring Blackwater to Potrero -- I believe east of San Diego. One of the top guys in that office is a former lobbyist for Blackwater.

CSPAN aired this hearing. It was disgusting at every level. They were talking about KIDNAPPING and TORTURE with smiles on their faces. Rorhbacher was not the only scumbag in that chamber. He was just among the most disgusting ones.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:04 AM
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90. k&r
:patriot:
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 06:47 AM
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94. Then he should go fight them..literally
He probably opted out of any military service. I sure the hell wouldn't send my son or daughter off to die for his greed.
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VotingVet Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:09 AM
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99. He didn't opt out of military service, my friend
This turkey actually helped train the mujahadeen -- who later emerged as the Taliban -- who, of course, provided safe harbor to Al Qareda. He did more than train them, too. As the photo of him posted elsewhere suggests, he fought side by side with them -- against the Soviets, true. But, hey, it's like helping child rapists in a gang fight against mother rapists.

He could save a little bit of his bacon if he holds a presser and tearfully apologizes for losing his temper and saying things that no decent human being would say.

Anyone holding your breath?

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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:24 PM
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142. he never served a day. His father David
was highly decorated however. When you walk into this POS's office there is a shadow box w/ a purple heart & some other medals (I don't know what they are, I'm illiterate when it comes to that sort of thing). There is a brass plate etched 'D. Rohrabacher' on the frame. He wants you to think those are his medals. Then on your left is a larger than life enlargement (it serves as wall paper covering one wall)of dana & his taliban buddies in Afghanistan. He is playing dress-up as he is decked out in robes & headgear.

During '4 election cycle, I attended a debate w/ him & the other candidates. The first thing out of his mouth @ any time he speaks is his praise for st ronnie defeating the Soviet Union. Only this time he said it the place erupted in laughter. His face got red, he started shaking his finger at us, yelling that we were ingrates and had no sense of history - which only made this mostly college age crowd laugh even more. I was hoping he would explode, he was sooo mad.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 06:52 AM
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95. Michael Scheuer, formerly of the CIA, also deserves dishonorable mention
for similar comments that displayed a complete lack of moral compass.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:32 PM
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149. Did You See Him Testify At Delahunt's Committee On C-Span ???
Totally off the rails.

Link: http://www.c-span.org/Search/advanced.asp?AdvancedQuery...

Appears in the second panel. Check it out!!!

:wow:
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:42 AM
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97. She is a TRUE American HERO!!!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:43 AM
Response to Reply #97
109. She is a SHEro!
I LOVE Ann!!!
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:33 AM
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100. OMFG!
What an incredibly disgusting thing to say!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:35 AM
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102. My god.
:popcorn:
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:06 AM
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106. Wrong. We don't hate America - we hate the policies of Bush.
The BA wants you say "they" hate America, thus deflecting criticism from their policies.

But we are losing patience.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:50 AM
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112. Rohrabacher is an embarassment to the US. As if we needed another. nt
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:55 AM
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113. i refused to open this thread thinking it was the mentally deranged ramblings of cho..couldnt figure
out why it kept creeping up on the greatest page
one thing is sure..mental illness is mental illness
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 10:55 AM
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117. How true
I thought about the title. This is how it came to me in an email. I just couldn't come up with anything more appropriate.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:57 AM
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115. So sad
that this is the level of discourse among our elected officials...
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 10:36 AM
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116. See, reasoned discourse doesn't work with people like this.
Someone should have slapped him right across his hateful mouth.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #116
123. That's right.
There is no reasoning with the zealots on the right. None at all.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 10:56 AM
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118. Has anyone been able to isolate the clip yet?
Does the clip exist?
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:00 AM
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119. The Republican decency meter has hit ZERO - '08 can't come soon enough
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Old Smokey Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:41 AM
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121. What an asshole
As much as I hate these fucking people, I would never wish death on their family because I dont like what they believe in. such assholes
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 01:04 PM
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124. He must have been channeling Mann Coulter. What a pathetic excuse
for a human being he is.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 01:30 PM
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125. So far all the videos posted on this thread are .smi
Someone who can veiw this clip needs to convert the stream into an .avi file, so everyone can see it.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 01:34 PM
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126. So far all the videos posted on this thread are .smi files
Someone who can veiw this clip needs to convert the stream into an .avi file, so everyone can see it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #126
129. Yes I sure wish they would
Thanks for the suggestion.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 02:34 PM
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130. Ann Coulter has a new book coming out? n/t
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 03:25 PM
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133. Somebody Should Send this Info To CNN OR MSNBC!!!
I'm not too PC savvy to clip it out!! And they worry about Baldwin???

I'm telling ya, we're headed toward a bursting BUBBLE or BOIL!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 06:39 PM
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144. I sent the article to Olberman
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jeff uppy Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 03:47 PM
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134. .rm clip available to view using this link
http://mailafriend.guide.real.com/index.html?link=rtsp%...

copy-locked, but maybe some can view it better

at apx. 2 hr 3 min.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:24 PM
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141. Thank you!
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 03:47 PM
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135. The lesson of this week is that those who violent threats should be
evaluated carefully by mental health professionals. This should not get a free pass.
Promote a healthy congress, investigate Dana now!
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:05 PM
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136. I got it!
I captured the video...what do I do with it now?
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:06 PM
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137. However, the audio is baaaaaad..... n/t
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jeff uppy Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:10 PM
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139. Edit out the relevent clip
and post it on YouTube. Then post the link here.

I'm sure the C-SPAN copyright department won't really mind all that much.

But hey, I didn't really say to do that. Just kidding. :)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:21 PM
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140. Can you post it?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:08 PM
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138. Our family members ARE dying, Mr. Rohrabacher...
As a result of the terrorists who are abusing our military by keeping them in this useless occupation of Iraq.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 06:57 PM
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145. Foot in mouth, Rohrabacher.
Good one. :sarcasm: My Rep. Gawd. :blush:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 10:13 PM
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147. Anyone going to run against him?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 02:26 PM
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148. Kick for the weekenders!
:kick:
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