Forced sterilization

[Texasgal]

Poll question: Forced sterilization

With so many stories about children being abused at the hands of their parents, what is your thought on forced sterilization?

Just curious. :)

[Brickbat]

1. I voted "none," with the understanding that "no one should be FORCED to sterilize.

[Texasgal]

4. I meant Forced... sorry..

edited. :)

[Brickbat]

5. Thanks!

:)

[customerserviceguy]

2. I can see it being used as part of a parole agreement

If the alternative is the full time in prison, maybe some would go for it.

[Texasgal]

3. Really?

I'm just curious how "choice" rings into this...

[usregimechange]

10. It doesn't and needs to be opposed for precisely that reason

[customerserviceguy]

14. It works out this way

If an individual is convicted of a heinous crime against that person's own offspring, and is otherwise able to be rehabilitated, the convicted individual could agree to sterilization as a condition of being granted parole.

There's your choice, the alternative is just stick it out in prison for several more years, perhaps decades. Are there not similar conditions imposed on people who are granted parole, dependent on the nature of their particular offense?

[Warpy]

6. Sometimes people can be absolutely horrible when young

but as they grow older and gain more life experience, they mellow out and become downright responsible.

I say this as a former wild child who became depressingly respectable after her roaring 20s were over.

Sterilization is one of those things that can't be reversed should the person grow up, get clean and sober, or do whatever it takes to become a responsible human being.

[no_hypocrisy]

7. FYI: Buck v. Bell is still in place, hasn't been overturned.

The government has a right to forcibly sterilize any citizen it chooses. And the government can categorize "unfit" broadly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell

[Texasgal]

11. Thanks fo rthe link

I am just not sure if I agree with that, to me choice means choice, ofcourse this is my opinion.

[arcadian]

17. The same method was used in the Federal government's acquisition of Shenandoah National Park

They relocated the mountain folk there after they determined they were all feeble minded. Buck vs. Bell was decided not far from Shenandoah in Charlottesville.

[no_hypocrisy]

8. dupe, sorry

[sarge43]

9. That wouldn't protect step children or the children of a single

parent who enters into a relationship with an abuser. A far share of these abusers are not the biological parent.

[REP]

12. Heart says HELL YES!! Head says FUCK NO

It sounds good, until I realize it'd be our government doing the deciding and then I see not only forced sterilization but forced pregnancy. Oh, wait.

At any rate, it's one of those ideas that sounds good until the details get around to be worked out, and then it sounds unworkable and horrible.

[Texasgal]

13. Exactly...

I find it strange that many right here on DU agree with it.

Choice means CHOICE. :)

Thanks for answering my poll!

[atreides1]

16. It's not that strange

In my short time here, I've seen police state advocates, as well as forced sterilization advocates.

I'm sure there are those who believe that child labor isn't really that bad either.

And we all know about those DU members who would take away a woman's right to choose just to get a health care bill passed, with the pie in the sky hope that the really nasty parts of any law would be repealed later on down the road.

So, in reality it's not that strange.

[Matariki]

15. Why one category for 'no' but two gender based categories for 'yes'?

And where's the category specifically for the Duggars?

[dusmcj]

18. clap em in jail with no conjugals /nt

[pipi_k]

19. when people mention "choice", I wonder...

what happens to the "choice" of the kids of people who have abused them.


They get no say in the matter. Just like babies the RW nuts want to "save" while they're in the womb, but once they're born, it's "fuck 'em...who cares..."

choice? Sure... I think people convicted of child abuse should have a choice. Prison or sterilization. That's it.

Why on earth anyone would allow abusive parents to keep bringing innocent children into the world is beyond me. Why would anyone think that's a peachy idea? Oh, and that includes men running around impregnating women and leaving them to support the kids however they can.

And women who have their kids taken away from them...put into foster homes or up for adoption...then go right out and get pregnant again and again.

I dunno...maybe I should harden my heart a little more and not give a shit about the kids of such people...after all, it's the rights of the adults that really matter, don't they...



PS...

I dare anyone to read some of the stories on this link and tell me that those parents don't deserve to be forcibly sterilized so they never hurt or kill another child of their own again.

http://www.imperfectparent.com/topics/2007/11/21/one-of-the-most-horrendous-child-abuse-stories-ever/