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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:19 PM
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If they're successful in not covering abortion, they'll then delete birth control --
both permanent and temporary.

Then what?

HIV?
STD's?
Cervical cancer?



Give them an inch and they'll get their mile.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:21 PM
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1. Is "the morning after" pill covered under Stupak?
I believe it is.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:24 PM
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5. I wouldn't bet on it; the anti-choicers think it's an abortifacient...
They're wrong, but that is their argument and they keep trying to make it unavailable. It's previously been included in the "conscience clause" so pharmacists and hospitals who don't approve don't have to carry it.

Hekate

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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:21 PM
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2. I think the birth control market is way too lucrative.
And Pharma made a killing on their cervical cancer prevention vaccine, even if it did kill and maim some
teens.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:22 PM
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3. THIS is next
Days of the Theocracy
(Kristin Lems)
July 15, 2007
words and music by Kristin Lems c 2007 Kleine Ding Music (BMI)
Out of print for many years, I felt this was important enough that I allowed a free legal download of it from the freedom from religion site. Written in 1979....
1. First they fight abortion, birth control is next,
Then comes sex if you’re not married, finally, out goes sex
Put the prayers back in the schools, install parochiaid
Allow for corporal punishment, and then you got it made!

Chorus:

We’re going back, back to the good ole days
When men were really men and women knew their place
Back, back a couple of centuries
And welcome back the days of the theocracy

2. The family is so holy, there must be no divorce
And if a wife is not content, she must adjust, of course
And if he’s forced to beat her, it’s all for her own good
She must know what her limits are, as any woman should

3. The next to go is daycare, it’s all a commit plot
What could be more fulfilling than a child, wanted or not?
A woman’s work is housework, God wanted it that way
A salaried job degrades her since she never works for pay

Chorus

4. They teach us women’s lot is "love honor and obey"
And while their crusty notions seem like jokes to us today
They’re sitting in the Capitol, they’re voting on our lives
If we don’t stop them now, our freedom will not long survive

No going back..to the bad ole days...let's go ahead for future centuries,

And build a world that’s based on true democracy
And build a world that’s based on true equality
Ah – person!

http://www.kristinlems.com/music-160.html
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 06:53 PM
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15. great lyrics, and I gotta ask:
since I can't quite tell from the "I allowed ..a download'...are you Kristen? or know her? because I went to high school with Kristen and one of the best college classes( African Music) I ever took was from her mother...
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:24 PM
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4. Naw. Our courageous, pro-woman, congress will never....oh, wait.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 07:03 PM
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16. If only we had a Democratic supermajority, ehh? Imagine what could be done! (NT)
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Blue State Blues Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:27 PM
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6. Any treatment developed through stem cell research?
Infertility treatment. They did sucessfully delay several infertility procedures in the US, 'cause "test tube babies" weren't God's will.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:48 PM
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7. Where's the birth control?
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:48 PM
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8. Very true.
I don't see why people don't realize this. A woman's right to make decisions over her own reproductive system are shielded from society by her right to privacy. Period. Or do I misinterpret Roe v. Wade?
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:49 PM
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9. Yes and why are people on DU of all places finding that hard to understand? K and R. eom
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:59 PM
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10. Goodbye pill, goodbye morning-after and IUD!
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 03:59 PM by juno jones
They might cause the shedding of fertilized cells you know.

The devil's in the details and the language is ambiguous enough to invite some vampires in.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 04:02 PM
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11. I don't think so.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 06:04 PM
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12. whatcha mean?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 06:40 PM
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14. Because there's no law that precludes birth control from being
paid for by public money, like the Hyde amendment does for abortion--unless there's one I'm not aware of. Now, if they decide to come up with a NEW amendment addressing birth control, then we're screwed.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 06:14 PM
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13. Birth control isn't covered in any of the bills nor in
the house bill 3962 that just went to the senate. It also wasn't included in any of the cbo scores.


"None of the bills emerging from the House and Senate require insurers to cover all the elements of a standard gynecological "well visit," leaving essential care such as pelvic exams, domestic violence screening, counseling about sexually transmitted diseases, and, perhaps most startlingly, the provision of birth control off the list of basic benefits all insurers must cover. Nor are these services protected from "cost sharing," which means that, depending on what's in the bill that emerges from the Senate, and, later, the contents of a final bill, women could wind up having to pay for some of these services out of their own pockets. So far, mammograms and Pap tests are covered in every version of the legislation."

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20091116/lerner
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 03:03 PM
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17. But they'll cover Viagra, naturally
Heaven forbid an insurance company comes between a geezer and his hard-on.
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