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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:15 AM
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Pastor's wife says she shot husband after years of sexual, emotional and physical abuse
Pastor's wife says she shot husband after years of sexual, emotional and physical abuse

By Emanuella Grinberg
Court TV

SELMER, Tenn. The wife of a Tennessee preacher told jurors in her murder trial Wednesday that she accidentally shot her husband after experiencing years of sexual, emotional and physical abuse at his hands.

After Mary Winkler shot Matthew Winkler, the defendant testified, her first thought was of her three daughters.

"I thought something terrible had happened, and no one would ever believe it was an accident and I would lose the girls," Winkler testified through sobs in her first-degree murder trial Wednesday.

Winkler, 33, said her reaction was to pack up the children in the family minivan and drive to Alabama coast for their first visit to the beach, "just to be together."


Mary Winkler testified about a heel she said her husband wanted her to wear during sex.

More:
http://www.courttv.com/trials/winkler/041807_ctv.html



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Slain preacher's wife denies pulling trigger
POSTED: 8:57 p.m. EDT, April 18, 2007


By Ann O'Neill
CNN
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(CNN) -- Mary Winkler told a Tennessee jury on Wednesday about her volatile marriage to a preacher she said berated her, forced her to watch pornography and to wear "slutty" costumes for sex.

She said she shot him accidentally after he tried to suffocate their infant daughter. He had wanted a son, she told the jury.

She got the shotgun, which was kept in a bedroom closet, because she was afraid and wanted to force him to talk through their problems, she testified. "I just wanted him to stop being so mean," she said through tears.

She denied pulling the trigger, but told the jury "something went off." She heard a boom, then ran from the house because she thought he would be mad at her. (Watch Winkler describe the smell of gunpowder Video)

"You know that pulling a trigger is what makes it go boom?" prosecutor Walter Freeland asked in his cross-examination. "Yes, sir," Winkler replied.


Mary Winkler testifies about a wig and shoes she says her husband made her wear for sex.


More:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/18/winkler.testimony /



Pastor's wife: Slaying an accident
Abuse described as trial winds down

By Beth Rucker
Associated Press
Published April 19, 2007

SELMER, Tenn. -- A preacher's wife testified at her murder trial Wednesday that her husband abused her physically and sexually, but she said the shotgun fired accidentally as she pointed it at him in their parsonage bedroom.

Mary Winkler heard a "boom" but she said she did not pull the trigger, prompting prosecutor Walt Freeland to ask her later if she understood how a trigger worked.

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Winkler testified her husband punched her in the face, kicked her at times and refused to grant a divorce. Shortly after they were married, "he just got me down and told me that I was his wife and we were family now, and he just screamed and hollered," she testified.

Speaking about their sex life, she spoke quietly and hesitantly, with eyes downcast. She said Matthew Winkler forced her to view pornography, dress "slutty" and have sex she considered unnatural.

More:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0704...
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:32 AM
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1. She must not have heard from that fundie who said that
husbands can't rape wives ...
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:33 AM
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2. very sad
Assuming she isn't totally fabricating the whole thing, I am left asking if there are any evangelical clergy who aren't secretly sexual sadists of one sort or another.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:39 AM
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3. I'm reading this and thinking about the SCOTUS decision yesterday
and well...

never mind
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mitchleary Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:40 AM
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4. In psychology you learn the most
conservative areas/people are the most deviant and perverse.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:41 AM
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5. I ask again, what is it with preachers and perversion?
They seem to go hand in glove.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:44 AM
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7. Perversion is one thing
Sadism, violence, and abuse are another.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:58 AM
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9. 'Cause their Religion forces them to deny who they really are.
Maybe the guy was gay, but years and years of preaching about Sin, hell, damnation, fucked up his head.

I dunno.

I think organized religion is a total mind fuck.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 10:22 AM
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17. Or maybe he was just a controlling asshole.
My money is on that.


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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:42 AM
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6. So, THAT high-heel is what gets off fundy preachers?
Holy cannoli.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 08:47 AM
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8. If there is enough evidence to support her claims then she may have been justifiablly insane at the
time of the murder.

As for putting a child on the stand to testify to the stability of the marriage...that is just wrong. My husband was 13 when his parents divorced...he was shocked when it happened because he thought everything was fine.....if he couldn't tell that there were problems at 13...how could a much younger child tell?

Sociopaths aren't typically the sort of folks who want everyone to know how wacko they really are. If her story is true, the pastor was a calculating sort of individual who had his "pastor face" and his "I am the dominant male face"

If it isn't true...does the prosecutor have more evidence other than the child's testimony? A lover? Credit card bills run amok that she was trying to hide?



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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 09:04 AM
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10. funny you mention credit card bills---
rumor was that she'd been nicked for a coupel grand in a Nigerian email scam the day before she shot him. The fallout from him re; that could probably be ugly.

She seems very sheltered and not too bright, imo.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 09:15 AM
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12. I am thinking the same thing...she was rather sheltered
I don't know...she has an uphill battle, her kids are in her in-laws custody and she has to have more than a funky high heel and a wig..to prove years of emotional abuse.

I had an aunt who was abused for her entire marriage... her monster beat her, pissed on her, and wouldn't support the family..(he drank his paycheck)...hell my own uncles loaded guns in a car one night with the intention of killing that monster...it was my mother and her other sisters who prevented them from going to jail... They were going to take the jackass "hunting" ...in order to end their sister's misery...

In the end..the monster left her..ain't that a joke and he froze to death in someone's shed...trying to find a place to sleep.


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michaelwb Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 09:10 AM
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11. Something odd was going on financially..
From the story:

Prosecutors claim the Winklers' finances were in shambles, and point to the fact that Matthew Winkler was killed the day the couple was supposed to meet with bank employees as proof of a possible motive.

Assistant district attorney Walt Freeland asked the defendant why she kept depositing the checks after the first fraudulent one came back.

"Matthew told me to," she said.

Winkler said she did not recall conversations with bank employees who told her she participating in an scam known as "check-kiting."


It does sound suspicious to me. Already not enough has come out to make any useful opinion of what is the truth and what happened.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 09:24 AM
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13. Wait for the verdict.

It may be that she's telling the truth about him having abused her in the past; it may not.

It may be that she's telling the truth about not having meant to shoot him; it may not.

There is no way we can possibly be certain from the information available as to what happened, so *don't* rush to judgement.

If she did mean to shoot him, she should be jailed, regardless of what he had done to her previously.

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Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 09:33 AM
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14. Um, I was in the room when my mom shot my father in the forehead..
A great thing for someone ten years old to see. My mom found my dad beating my sisters head into the bathtub. I'm glad the fucker is dead.

I wish I was joking. Mom got time served.. About six months in the local jail.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 10:00 AM
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16. I'm so sorry, Omphaloskepsis.
:( :hug:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 10:22 AM
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18. Wow. I read your posts about this before, but I didn't realize
you had seen it.

:hug:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 09:40 AM
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15. I seem to recall that, right after her arrest, her own father-in-law (also a pastor)
acknowledged that he had previously had a conversation with his son re: treatment of his wife. I don't remember the details, but I remember being struck at the time by how the victim's own father had tacitly acknowledged that his son had caused problems in his marriage.

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