Lieberman Must Go

[babylonsister]

http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/11/8/194242/948

Lieberman Must Go

by Charles Lemos, Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 07:42:42 PM EST


Dolting Joe certainly had himself a memorable Sunday morning, one that none of us should ever forget. On Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, the independent Senator from Connecticut said "If the public option plan is in there, as a matter of conscience, I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote."

A matter of conscience? More like a matter of protecting the pockets of Connecticut's insurance citadel.

Then on the recent tragedy in Fort Hood that left 13 dead and injured another 30, Senator Lieberman seems to have all his facts in and drawn his own conclusions. The chairman of the Senate's Homeland Security committee said that the deadly shooting at Texas' Fort Hood military base was an act of "Islamist extremism."

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Meanwhile the New York Times reports that there's little evidence of terrorist plot in the Fort Hood slayings.

After two days of inquiry into the mass shooting at Fort Hood, investigators have tentatively concluded that it was not part of a terrorist plot.

Rather, they have come to believe that Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist accused in the shootings, acted out under a welter of emotional, ideological and religious pressures, according to interviews with federal officials who have been briefed on the inquiry.

Investigators have not ruled out the possibility that Major Hasan believed he was carrying out an extremist's suicide mission.

But the investigators, working with behavioral experts, suggested that he might have long suffered from emotional problems that were exacerbated by the tensions of his work with veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan who returned home with serious psychiatric problems.

They said his counseling activities with the veterans appear to have further fueled his anger and hardened his increasingly militant views as he was seeming to move toward more extreme religious beliefs -- all of which boiled over as he faced being shipped overseas, an assignment he bitterly opposed.

Investigators have gleaned most of their findings from Major Hasan's computer use and from interviews with his family members, co-workers and neighbors. One significant investigative thrust has involved determining whether Major Hasan had contact with extremists who preyed on his increasingly angry and outspoken opposition to American policies in Afghanistan and Iraq.

But so far, investigators have unearthed no evidence that he was directed or steered into violence or ever traveled overseas to meet with extremist groups, as defendants in some recent terrorism cases are accused of doing, the officials said.

The officials emphasized that their findings were preliminary and that the investigation was fluid. New information could alter their perceptions of Major Hasan's motives. But the early conclusions are already influencing the course of the inquiry, including which law enforcement agencies lead it.

I think it is too early to draw definitive conclusions. The investigation remains fluid. But it is long overdue to act on Joe Lieberman. It is time to strip Dolting Joe from his chairmanship and oust him from the Democratic caucus.

[TomClash]

1. Let me be the first to rec

I wish he could be stripped of his Senate seat too but CT has no recall.

[Ninga]

2. If the republicans in Connecticut have anything to say about it, he will stay.

Because Lieberman is better than a republican, and the republicans know it.

Lieberman is a disgrace to Democrats, and republicans love it.

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. Why wasn't this clown kicked to the end of the line?

He was rewarded by Reid instead of being punished.

What is wrong with this picture?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. Joe the Liberman can pay our $40,000 bill - thank you!

[Meshuga]

5. I agree

"I think it is too early to draw definitive conclusions. The investigation remains fluid. But it is long overdue to act on Joe Lieberman. It is time to strip Dolting Joe from his chairmanship and oust him from the Democratic caucus."

He is useless to Democrats and just creates the perception that we have a 60% majority in the senate when in reality the majority is 59%. His record is very consistent in backstabbing Democrats when we want to get things done.

I know many will feel obligated to call his office to give him grief and say he should be ashamed of himself. But how can you shame someone when he does not have any shame whatsoever? In other words, trying to reason with him is a waste of time. We should be calling our Democratic senators to pressure them to start a "dump Lieberman" campaign. Enough is enough!

[Bitwit1234]

9. That would be nice. BUT

I think I read on one of the other sites, that you need 60 votes. I forgot all about that was going to check it out, am going to now.

[Meshuga]

10. Not gonna get 60 votes with Lieberman on board

Lieberman is only good in creating the perception that Dems have 60 votes in the Senate when in reality we don't.

[Bitwit1234]

12. So needing 60 votes is not true

I went back and checked and you don't need 60 votes. Which site had it is wrong. When I come across it again I'll tell them. All they need to do is get HARRY REID to have him removed. Reid might be his friend. But does he have the best interest of the democratic party at heart. Damn it, if we could get a republican senator kicked out and the DEMOCRATIC governor appoints a democrat to fill the seat. We can then get rid of Liberman. Put his seat in the men's room.

[Odin2005]

6. Time to kick Looserman to the curb.

[extractorks]

7. Joe has all the cards.

Sure the democratic leadership could take away his committee chair, but Lieberman could block every single piece of legislation or Judge that he wanted to block. He holds a swing vote. A swing vote is more powerful then any chair position. If they try to punish lieberman more, it will just encourage him to block more and more.

He could punish back and it wouldnt get pretty.

[beac]

8. It's not pretty now. And I don't think Lieberman can be trusted on ANYTHING at this point.

Remember "He's with us on everything but the war."??? I stay strip him and let him go down in history and the sniveling traitor asshat he is.

[ThomCat]

11. How about wining with a simple majority.

The republicans were able to do it almost every damned time.

Will the Republicans really filibuster everything? Can't dems shame them for this the way they tried to do to Dems? Brand the republicans now and forever as the obstructionist party that never allows anything to get done. It would final nails in their coffin.

I think our party is AFRAID of any possible threat, and backs down if there is anything the republicans might even remotely be able to do, no matter how unlikely or costly it would be to the republicans to do it.

Our party grossly underestimates its own power, and vastly overestimates the Republican party's power constantly, and based their decisions on that ridiculous calculus.

Grow a spine and fight! The victories would be worth the fight. The experience of learning to fight again would be worth the struggle. In the medium and long run we will achieve far more than if we keep assuming that the republicans can always stalemate us and therefore do nothing.