I'm Not Paying For A Plan Which Doesn't Cover Full Women's Health Care

[bluetrain]

Women are full human beings and need to be treated as such under the law.

[MSchreader]

1. Why do you hate America?

And the Democratic Party? And Obama? And puppies? And unicorns? And soft, fuzzy moments?

[bluetrain]

3. Oh, I'm fond of unicorns.

[comtec]

8. mmmmmm Unicorns.....

huh?
oh.. um...
yess kill all fuzzy thing!


seriously... they keep women's pay LOWER then men/s and charge her MORE for health insurance?

in what fucking universe does THAT make sense?
If you're going to PAY someone less, you should CHARGE less.... oh right they WANT slaves!....

[bluetrain]

13. Charge her more for everything, tampons, bras, women's clothing and shoes and purses

and hair cuts are more expensive, plus "beauty" treatments of the hair removal and nail taming kind and birth control. And abortions! And, often, raising unwanted children when there isn't access to abortion.

I'd argue we're all slaves to the corporatocracy, but women are certainly clinging to a lower wrung than men and this bill is the most blatant, shameless example of that in recent memory.

[vadawg]

15. sorry but i as a guy dont get discounts on the following

tampons, bras, women's clothing and shoes and purses


i got to pay full price same as you,

[bluetrain]

16. Do you get a regular pap smear, too?

[vadawg]

19. no idea, but ill ask next time i see my proctologist.....

[comtec]

17. *snerk*

I think you forgot the tag

and the point completely if you didn't.

[vadawg]

20. didnt think i needed the sarcasm tag, i thought it looked pretty obvious...

[comtec]

23. Well with this group...

never hurts to ask

[Norrin Radd]

40. Obama / Unicorn art:

http://magdajane.tumblr.com/post/95328207/i-love-pictur...

[bluetrain]

43. I had an insane pic my friend photoshopped of Dolly Parton riding a unicorn, but can't find it now.

[QC]

46. And Bo. Why does this person hate Bo?

[joeycola]

2. To the WH, and many in Congress, they are expendable-just like

gays are.

[bluetrain]

4. Homophobia is another shade of misogyny.

[vadawg]

5. thats okay you can pay the 2.5% tax as a fine then....

and if you wont pay that then you can go to jail.....

[bluetrain]

6. Seriously, I'll go to jail. This is not acceptable.

[comtec]

9. At least jail has 3-hots, housing, work, AND medical

Seriously, prisoners get BETTER health care than people on the fucking outside!

aside from it being.. you know.. PRISON and all

[vadawg]

11. lol you got no idea, where are you getting the 3 hots from

you get two meals of bologne sandwich, one horrible hot meal, you share a cell with someone who smells as bad as you do, theres not always work, and the health care is really bad and i mean really bad...

[comtec]

21. Sounds like my first apartment...

And I did say...it was jail!!!
I mean make the cage as golden as you want.. it's still a cage!

If you ge... sorry WHEN you get shiv'd in jail, you get fixed up.
when you get sick, you get meds
when you get brutally anally raped by that gorilla in cell block F, you pretty much are on your own.
Point being you get taken care of.

on the out side.. not so much.

Mind you I will take poverty, and dodging the flu on the OUTSIDE, and freeeeeee, over jail any day!

I was making a sardonic point, thank you very much.

[vadawg]

24. lol but seriously dude, the health care in the jail sucks

even the guys that get sent to the hospital dont have a great time of it. the jail might keep you alive as a last resort but you are not going to get all the meds you may think you need.. no narco painkillers just motrim twice a day for instance....

[comtec]

26. I don't doubt that it's hell

it's just more than we get if we're unfortunate enough to get hurt or sick is all.

California has county care. each county decides if it wasn't to cover the poor or not.
I lived in a county that DID have this.

After I got a job I begged them to let me pay into it.

They said they can't... which is a pity because aside from waiting, it was great!

yeah.. glad to be on the outside for sure.

[vadawg]

27. if im ever getting banged up im definetly running for the hills

dont think i could handle being locked up full time.... plus ive tried the food puke

[bluetrain]

22. It's insane to me that any woman at all and any man who claims to be a progressive

would be okay with totally selling out half of the fucking country. All of your sisters, your female friends, girlfriends of future and past, your own mother, that anyone would not be willing to go to jail over equal rights for women. I get a monthly letter from a family member letting me know just how awful prison is and I think civil rights for women are worth that sacrifice.

[vadawg]

25. then thats your call, its real simple feeding and clothing my kids comes before you

if you feel strongly about it then you have to do what you have to do, but remember its not going to be the priority of everyone, the things i care about are not important to you and i wouldnt expect you to put yourself at risk for something that didnt rate on your scale higher than your safety...

[bluetrain]

30. Your life, but I wouldn't feel comfortable handing my children a future in which women are

treated as half-humans.

[vadawg]

34. yeah because that is much worse than them having to feed themselves from garbage cans

cause their old man is banged up, sorry if you dont understand that there are higher priorities than what might be..

[bluetrain]

35. I guess I don't see how capitulating to this system keeps them from dumpster diving in the long run.

[vadawg]

37. one is a definate and the other is a maybe, thats the difference

and as i said my kids eating is more important than other peoples causes.... at least to me..

[bluetrain]

39. Other people?

[vadawg]

41. yes as in other people, as in not me not sure what was confusing about that..

ie my causes are more important to me than other peoples causes are to me
your causes are more important to you than my causes are to you...

[bluetrain]

42. No, I come frome a stance that we're all in this together.

[vadawg]

44. no when you start to talk about being thrown in jail for something then we are all not in it togethe

whats passionate enough for you to go to jail isnt for the majority of others, as i said its all down to priorities.....

[bluetrain]

45. Maybe priorities need to be reevaluated. I don't think civil rights are anything to turn a blind eye

to for comfort. Allowing your friends to be treated like shit doesn't create a hopeful future for your children or anyone else.

[comtec]

28. let me be clear, I was being sarcastic

I think this bill is shit!

I think what we are being forced into is nothing more than corporate slavery full on, out in the open, bend over and smile! BULLSHIT!

I think this is utter misogyny plain and simple.

TO make a woman pay more, to threaten to put people IN PRISON! TO FORCE you to STAY with your insurance, with NO OTHER RECOURSE, while being taxed.. that is insane!

We are all taking it, badly.

ium horrified, just horrified, that we were duped, that THEIR side won.. AGAIN!

[vadawg]

29. dude i hate to tell you this, but its not their side, the poor saps on both sides are being screwed

im glad i have kept to my rule that all politicians are thieves and liars, its something i learned as a kid and its as true today as it was then.....

[comtec]

32. there are some... like dennis and Al.,.. but too few

I really thought they would pull through for us

i really did

[bluetrain]

36. Dennis did stand up for We The People. And he's got a lot of fans, but none of them seem to be

his colleagues.

[bluetrain]

7. Let's throw a protest.

[DemBones DemBones]

10. We all will be if the Senate passes it. Our only hope

is the Senate because Obama would sign it.

[bluetrain]

14. We can't wait that long. I say weekly protests in all cities, escalating as it gets closer to Senate

finality.

[mmonk]

12. Sorry but this is a MANdate.

[comtec]

18. No.. pretty much EVERYONE is being bent over

men included.

[mmonk]

31. you're correct.

A mandate for all.

[Mari333]

33. betcha Viagra will be covered.

[bluetrain]

38. Bet it will be, too.

[comtec]

47. Boob jobs will probably also be covered

and anything else that benefits men...

breast cancer .... maybe?

Breast reduction because it's murdering that woman's back? hell no!

Dear goddess, please protect us from the idiots

[bluetrain]

48. It's curious. I wonder. Removal of tumor, yes. Reconstrunctive surgery, probably not.

Where does the hysterectomy stand?

[comtec]

49. Oh definitely! that way you can control those horrible "hysterical urges" women have

that's why it's called a hysterectomy!

Hysterical, comes from the name of a woman's genitals... talk about fucking sexist bullshit!

[bluetrain]

50. I might get the vapors if this goes any further

[comtec]

52. *waves a fan over your head* there there.... want a mint julep?

It might help

[bluetrain]

51. Getting serious again, this is a Civil Rights issue. And legislating bigotry is NOT OK.

And that's exactly what Stupak's amendment is: bigotry. It wouldn't be ok if the bill were passed with a single amendment refusing coverage to African Americans nor to people who have HIV nor to any of the myriad diseases which target specific ethnic groups more frequently or exclusively. This is bigotry; this bill makes hatred of a minority lawful and it's unacceptable. There is no place in a progressive society for a second class citizen. And, to make matters worse, this bill has not just outlined hatred for a minority group, but revoked their (our) previous status as full citizens. This is the biggest affront on civil rights in this country that I've seen in my lifetime. And it's a sad, sad day. If this is a health insurance bill for all Americans, then the health care needs of all Americans need to be covered. And this hateful amendment needs to be repealed.