on the plus side, at least Aetna and Pharma can rest easy now knowing

[nosmokes]

their money was well invested in their plan 'B' Democratic party. Mandatory customers, a pallid and anemic public option to compete against, and no abortion coverage. WTF more could HealthInsureCO want?

[lonestarnot]

1. It's a fucking start!

[Birthmark]

4. You left out one word.

It's a sad fucking start. There. That's much more accurate.

[lonestarnot]

11. I'm not sad. :)

[joeycola]

12. I am. I found out once again the women's reproductive health care is EXPENDABLE!!

[nosmokes]

13. Is it *really*? because I don't see it. The Dems control the house handily and

this piece of shit is what y'all wanna sell me as success?

Sorry, but I know horseshit when I step in horseshit and this is a deep pile of corral carpet.

[emulatorloo]

2. So are FreedomWorks and Americans For Prosperity going to fold up their tents and go home now?

Because it would be great if Aetna and Pharma called off the teabaggers.

But I don't see that happening

[lonestarnot]

3. They are shitting their pants!

[emulatorloo]

5. They are generating new talking points for the teabaggers as we speak.

I would imagine the "Obama as Hitler the Joker" sign maker is going to overheat.

[aquart]

8. You betcha.

Senators are upping their bribe requirements as we speak.

[emulatorloo]

10. ----> LIEBERMANN

[John Q. Citizen]

6. You keep confusing the Republicans with the insurance companies. Let me explain.

The Repos are completely opposed to the Dem bill because they think if it passes it really helps the Dems both with health care industrial money (which is substantial) and with voters.

The insurance industry, on the other hand, wants to make a lot of money. They have cut a deal with the Obama administration. They agreed to give up pre-existing conditions and do modified community rating in return for 30-40 million new subsidized customers who are required by law to buy health insurance. They aren't ideologues. They are business people out to make a buck. They would prefer some things over others, but they want the bill to pass and be signed into law.


The teabaggers are Republicans who didn't vote for Obama, they are the Repo base. they don't get their money from the insurance industry. They get it from right wing ideologues.


I gave you link to Newsweek, the WSJ and some others, but you can google it your self and see. Business people want 30 million new customers who are subsidized by the government. Honest they do.

[emulatorloo]

9. I'm not confusing anything. FreedomWorks and American Prosperity are Fake Grass Roots

groups associates with Lobbyists who are paid by Insurance Industry etc. Those groups organize the teabagggers and bus them around to events, like Michelle Bachmann's KILL THE BILL RALLY.

Many of the Republicans have their campaigns financed by Pharma and the insurance industry.

Insurance Companies are not in favor of this bill, that is why the continue to spend money on misleading ads to defeat it. They do not like the reforms that are in the existing bill, and they are afraid that the public option will be made stronger over time, just as medicare was.

[aquart]

7. No, they're busy figuring out how to kill the pre-existing condition clause.

Because that is going to destroy the enormous darlings. Like watching dinosaurs keel over.

[flvegan]

14. Yup. And anyone that thinks this will be revamped and improved upon is insane.

"Done!" is what the stamp will say on health care reform.