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Tonight, Kucinich was left at the gate.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 03:09 AM
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Tonight, Kucinich was left at the gate.
He can't take back his vote. This is the beginning of real reform, a transformation of the American health care system. Everything from here on out builds on this.

As Conyers stated:

I supported it because it will expand access to health insurance to 96 percent of Americans, end discrimination based on pre-existing conditions, help our seniors by closing the prescription drug benefit donut hole, and increase competition and choice with a public insurance option...I will vote for this bill because the cost of inaction is too high.
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   It might be very interesting to hear people who are defending Kucinich's  saltpoint   Nov-08-09 03:11 AM   #1 
   Grayson, who we freaking MONEYBOMBED not 7 days ago is a DLC sellout apparently.  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-08-09 03:26 AM   #6 
      Life's wild, ain't it. Very hard to follow the bouncing ball sometimes.  saltpoint   Nov-08-09 03:26 AM   #7 
   He's only as good as his votes. And again, he voted with Boehner and the teabaggers.  scheming daemons   Nov-08-09 03:14 AM   #2 
   Again, Dennis's rating with the ACU (American Conservative Union) went UP tonight  scheming daemons   Nov-08-09 03:20 AM   #3 
   He voted against me and my family last night  ecstatic   Nov-08-09 03:23 AM   #4 
   But... he voted on PRINCIPLE, silly!  scheming daemons   Nov-08-09 03:25 AM   #5 
      "On principle," just like all those Naderites in 2000...  regnaD kciN   Nov-08-09 03:37 AM   #8 
   Have fun buying your mandated insurance!  Vidar   Nov-08-09 05:00 AM   #9 
   As opposed to what? n/t  ProSense   Nov-08-09 05:02 AM   #10 
   Not for long.  lonestarnot   Nov-08-09 05:08 AM   #11 
   If you click on the link to my blog, you'll see how the con game played out.  mmonk   Nov-08-09 05:40 AM   #12 
   Why?  ProSense   Nov-08-09 10:13 AM   #14 
   If we would had Single Payer instead of this insurance scam,  B Calm   Nov-08-09 05:45 AM   #13 
   and joined the Blue Dog class  kid a   Nov-08-09 02:01 PM   #15 
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Nov-08-09 03:11 AM
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1. It might be very interesting to hear people who are defending Kucinich's
vote this evening walk up to Conyers and call him a DLC sell-out.

Excellent find, ProSense.

Recommended.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 03:26 AM
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6. Grayson, who we freaking MONEYBOMBED not 7 days ago is a DLC sellout apparently.
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 03:26 AM by SemiCharmedQuark
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Nov-08-09 03:26 AM
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7. Life's wild, ain't it. Very hard to follow the bouncing ball sometimes.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 03:14 AM
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2. He's only as good as his votes. And again, he voted with Boehner and the teabaggers.

His reasons don't matter.

Save the ideologically purity bullshit for your beany-wearing supporters, Dennis.


You again voted with Boehner.


Your vote is what is on record, not your reasons "why".


You voted the way Limbaugh wanted you to vote.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 03:20 AM
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3. Again, Dennis's rating with the ACU (American Conservative Union) went UP tonight

He voted with the wingnuts.

His reasons why don't interest me.


He's a "useful idiot" for the wingnuts.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 03:23 AM
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4. He voted against me and my family last night
but he jumped the shark a while ago so I'm not surprised.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 03:25 AM
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5. But... he voted on PRINCIPLE, silly!
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 03:25 AM by scheming daemons
Just because his actions were exactly the same as John Boehner and Eric Cantor, his REASONS were different!

Can't you see how pure and wonderful he is?

:sarcasm:
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 03:37 AM
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8. "On principle," just like all those Naderites in 2000...
:grr:
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Vidar (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 05:00 AM
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9. Have fun buying your mandated insurance!
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 05:20 AM by Vidar
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 05:02 AM
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10. As opposed to what? n/t
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11. Not for long.
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12. If you click on the link to my blog, you'll see how the con game played out.
It should bother you the Kucinich amendment was stripped from the bill.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 10:13 AM
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14. Why?
Just as with the frantic claims about Republican states opting out, do you anticipate that any of those states would adopt single payer?

The whole point of the current House bill is national health care with a public option that will be available to the majority of people in a few years.

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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 05:45 AM
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13. If we would had Single Payer instead of this insurance scam,
life would be grand!
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15. and joined the Blue Dog class
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