Why, oh why didn't I support Hillary? She wouldn't have let this garbage bill get this far.

[leeroysphitz]

To those who supported Secretary Clinton in the primaries I apologize and I stand corrected, I was wrong.

[sandnsea]

1. This is exactly what she proposed

You're kidding, right?

Obama isn't the one that wanted these mandates and fines, that's all Hillary Democrats.

[leeroysphitz]

2. Shhh. Just stirring up some shit. Forgot to add the SARCASM smiley.

Forgot to add the smiley.

[karynnj]

7. you can still edit

[leeroysphitz]

8. ok so I didn't actually "forget"...

[naaman fletcher]

3. I thought she wanted single payer.

There is a big difference between single payer and make it a crime punishable up to 5 years in prison if you don't buy the product of an evil industry that has a federal exemption from anti-trust laws.

[ProSense]

5. Hillary proposed mandates and garnishing wages to pay for health insurance. n/t

[Ineeda]

10. I believe Patrick Leahy is working on a bill

to overturn McCarran-Ferguson which exempted the insurance companies from federal anti-trust regulations.

[Tarheel_Dem]

19. Oh god, you weren't paying very close attention then, were you?

Why do people try to revise history here? You have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

[JVS]

4. I didn't like her plan because of the mandates, but now it seems we'll get those anyway.

Of course, it would be nice if Obama would make a point of being different from her in policy now the way he did while campaigning against her. The DLC must have cut one hell of a deal in exchange for not taking it to the convention.

[stray cat]

11. Should we have a right to opt out of any medical care - no mandate but no health care

unless you can pay up front with cash. That is freedom to choose.

[Autumn]

6. This is as good as we get,

all of these politicians are going to protect their interests, not ours. So we get a weak watered down bill.

[Drunken Irishman]

9. I was about to deck you.

[bigtree]

12. not sure what you're arguing here

. . . since the president is presumably holding the door open to just about anything (called a health-care bill) which is passing through the halls of Congress.

[Beacool]

13. If you think that Hillary would have signed a bill that contained the Stupak

amendment, then you have no clue about the woman.

It's already a crappy bill and, by the time the Senate gets through it, it will be even less palatable.

What's the point of your post, you want to start a fight?

[Autumn]

14. The poster is just stirring up shit

as admitted up thread.

Hillary mandates= BAD

Obama mandates=GOOD

[Beacool]

17. Yeah, same old crap around here.

[kiva]

15. Of course, at least SHE didn't lie.

[Autumn]

18. Very true. n/t

[Sebastian Doyle]

16. Hillary's bill would have been much worse

Remember, mandatory national Romneycare was her starting point.

What would her compromise had been? The Baucus-Lieberman plan?


We should have started with Single Payer, and - only if absolutely necessary - settled for a true public option.

Anything less than that is NOT reform. This abomination is the OPPOSITE of reform.

$25,000 fine for refusing to enable criminal sons of bitches who make $57,000 an HOUR????

What the FUCKING HELL is wrong with anybody who calls themself a "Democrat" and supports this SHIT?

[Stinky The Clown]

20. I gotta unrec this one

We have lots to argue about. We don't need thjis.

[krispos42]

21. Locking

Primary rehash.

Regards,
Krispos42, DU moderator