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The Reason for the Anger and Intractability of the Debate Over Health Care Reform in the USA

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The Reason for the Anger and Intractability of the Debate Over Health Care Reform in the USA
http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-...

Written by Chris Floyd
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 12:58

One side is lying; the other side is not telling the truth.

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Or to put it another way: One side is pretending that a wildly reactionary plan to further enrich rapacious corporations is really hardcore, gutbucket socialism from the Bolshevik trenches, while the other side is pretending that its "reform" is not really a wildly reactionary plan to further enrich rapacious corporations but something that will somehow, in some way, be good for some people at some point way down the line.

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One often finds that dealing in such utter unreality makes it somewhat difficult to achieve workable solutions to real-life problems.
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   great summary knr nt  slipslidingaway   Nov-04-09 01:02 PM   #1 
   "America has one political party with two right wings." - Gore Vidal  Echo In Light   Nov-04-09 01:06 PM   #2 
   Out of the park. k&r  blindpig   Nov-04-09 01:09 PM   #3 
   Kick for cutting through the post-partisan BS.  Karmadillo   Nov-04-09 09:10 PM   #4 
      During the Finance committee mark up Grassley quoted one of the  slipslidingaway   Nov-04-09 09:50 PM   #5 
 
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1. great summary knr nt
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2. "America has one political party with two right wings." - Gore Vidal
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3. Out of the park. k&r
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4. Kick for cutting through the post-partisan BS.
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5. During the Finance committee mark up Grassley quoted one of the
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 09:51 PM by slipslidingaway
estimates from Lewin on the Hacker public option plan.

When I pointed this out, and then Ensign used the estimate, someone posted they were surprised the Dems did not challenge him on the Lewin group (and by extension their analysis).

My reply...

If the Dems call them on the original estimates from Lewin then people might question what changed from the original public/private plan proposed by Jacob Hacker.

Also the Dems want their base to believe this is a stealth move to SP and do not want to jeopardize the support a PO has received.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


Fun and games.

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