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Sheriff: 3 ND students likely didn't see pond

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Sheriff: 3 ND students likely didn't see pond
This is so sad.

Three college softball players found dead after their sport utility vehicle went into a pond on a North Dakota farm during a stargazing trip likely drove straight into the water in the dark, authorities said Wednesday.

Stark County Sheriff Clarence Tuhy said the women's SUV was found resting on its wheels Tuesday in about 10 feet of water hidden by tall grass, with the doors and windows closed.

"When you're not familiar with an area like that it would have been very easy to drive into," Tuhy said.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ivg3H...
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   Um, and they didn't even try to get out?  Barack_America   Nov-04-09 09:46 AM   #1 
   Yeah, this report just puzzled me  theHandpuppet   Nov-04-09 09:48 AM   #2 
      Probably electric doors and window locks...  JanMichael   Nov-04-09 09:50 AM   #3 
         electric windows still operate when a car goes into the water.  dysfunctional press   Nov-04-09 10:56 AM   #6 
         electric door locks are required to have manual release for safety  Statistical   Nov-04-09 10:59 AM   #7 
   WTF?  Vinnie From Indy   Nov-04-09 10:16 AM   #4 
      10 feet deep -- probably this was a "dugout" for watering cattle  FarCenter   Nov-04-09 10:53 AM   #5 
 
Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 09:46 AM
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1. Um, and they didn't even try to get out?
And the dog died too?

Something is strange here.
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 09:48 AM
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2. Yeah, this report just puzzled me
Just doesn't make sense.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 09:50 AM
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3. Probably electric doors and window locks...
also, remember it is almost impossible to push a door open against water pressure, or push a window out. That's why those "window smasher" things are sold on TV.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 10:56 AM
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6. electric windows still operate when a car goes into the water.
that was covered on mythbusters.
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7. electric door locks are required to have manual release for safety
Once car is mostly filled with water opening the door is easy.

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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 10:16 AM
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4. WTF?
Is there a paved road that goes straight into the pond? Was it a dirt road? It seems doubtful that the SUV would have been traveling at a high rate of speed into the lake. If it was anything less than 40mph, I doubt that the occupants would have been knocked out on hitting the water. There is something odd about this story.
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 10:53 AM
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5. 10 feet deep -- probably this was a "dugout" for watering cattle
They most likely were driving across the field and drove right into it. These are artificial ponds made by excavating a trench in the praire. The ends would slope down to the water so that cattle can drink, but the sides can be steep.
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