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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:16 PM
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Anyone listening to Thom Hartmann
Saying how much Bush is obsessed with death, and did not comfort to those students at yesterday's memorial at Virginia Tech.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:17 PM
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1. Did he mean that W was obsessed with his own death?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:22 PM
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7. no other people's deaths
Thom mentioned how * used to blow up frogs and thought it was funny, and played a clip from yesterday's memorial service saying the students were at the wrong place at the wrong time!!! what a insensitive and ignorant remark.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:24 PM
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9. I know about W's history of sadism. Creepy stuff
Thanks for your reply. I was listening to Thom before the news but then got busy. So I didn't catch the last 15 minutes.
:hi:
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:19 PM
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2. I heard. Chilling.
Thom says that Bush further terrorized those who had already been traumatized by forcing them to relive the horror.

Then he played the clip, and you can actually hear in Bush's voice how much he relishes talking about death.

Then there was a moment of silence, and someone in the crowd collapsed and had to be carried away.

Bush is a monster.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:24 PM
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8. how would he have felt it was his twin daughters in a classroom
we have a very sick man in office, hopefully Mental Health issues will come to the forefront and * would be one of their many patients.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:19 PM
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3. Always listen to Thom Hartmann's radio show - No one is better!
www.airamericaradio.com
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:20 PM
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4. Yep and I agree with him
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 12:20 PM by nadinbrzezinski
I actually watched the ghoul in chief... and boy he is sick... as in 25th emmendment sixk
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:21 PM
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5. Yes, but it isn't shrubby who is obsessed
his handlers and propaganda ministers are working the crowd.

What a bunch of evil fuckers. I would have walked out and maybe heckled if I was at that memorial.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:21 PM
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6. The snippet of Bush's speech I heard didn't sound consoling at all
It seemed very despairing to me. I was hoping that maybe the rest of the speech had something more comforting in it, but then that's asking a lot considering the conscienceless dolt who delivered it.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:25 PM
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10. If I heard correctly, it was from an article by Zbigniew Brzezinski
I'm gonna look for that piece.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:32 PM
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12. Found it! WaPo op-ed was originally posted at DU by Babylonsister.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...


Terrorized by 'War on Terror'
How a Three-Word Mantra Has Undermined America
By Zbigniew Brzezinski

Sunday, March 25, 2007; Page B01

The "war on terror" has created a culture of fear in America. The Bush administration's elevation of these three words into a national mantra since the horrific events of 9/11 has had a pernicious impact on American democracy, on America's psyche and on U.S. standing in the world. Using this phrase has actually undermined our ability to effectively confront the real challenges we face from fanatics who may use terrorism against us.

The damage these three words have done -- a classic self-inflicted wound -- is infinitely greater than any wild dreams entertained by the fanatical perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks when they were plotting against us in distant Afghan caves. The phrase itself is meaningless. It defines neither a geographic context nor our presumed enemies. Terrorism is not an enemy but a technique of warfare -- political intimidation through the killing of unarmed non-combatants.

But the little secret here may be that the vagueness of the phrase was deliberately (or instinctively) calculated by its sponsors. Constant reference to a "war on terror" did accomplish one major objective: It stimulated the emergence of a culture of fear. Fear obscures reason, intensifies emotions and makes it easier for demagogic politicians to mobilize the public on behalf of the policies they want to pursue.

The war of choice in Iraq could never have gained the congressional support it got without the psychological linkage between the shock of 9/11 and the postulated existence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Support for President Bush in the 2004 elections was also mobilized in part by the notion that "a nation at war" does not change its commander in chief in midstream. The sense of a pervasive but otherwise imprecise danger was thus channeled in a politically expedient direction by the mobilizing appeal of being "at war."

To justify the "war on terror," the administration has lately crafted a false historical narrative that could even become a self-fulfilling prophecy. By claiming that its war is similar to earlier U.S. struggles against Nazism and then Stalinism (while ignoring the fact that both Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were first-rate military powers, a status al-Qaeda neither has nor can achieve), the administration could be preparing the case for war with Iran. Such war would then plunge America into a protracted conflict spanning Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and perhaps also Pakistan.

The culture of fear is like a genie that has been let out of its bottle. It acquires a life of its own -- and can become demoralizing. America today is not the self-confident and determined nation that responded to Pearl Harbor; nor is it the America that heard from its leader, at another moment of crisis, the powerful words "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself"; nor is it the calm America that waged the Cold War with quiet persistence despite the knowledge that a real war could be initiated abruptly within minutes and prompt the death of 100 million Americans within just a few hours. We are now divided, uncertain and potentially very susceptible to panic in the event of another terrorist act in the United States itself.

more...
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:30 PM
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11. you mean Buzz Flash's voodoo dolls are working?
cool!


Now, where's that next needle?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:49 PM
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13. I only wish those dolls work, now if we invested in some of those
that would be interesting, insert pins now.
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