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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 03:51 PM
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Poll question: If the choices are trigger option or reconciliation, which do you prefer?
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 04:12 PM by Alhena
In light of Lieberman's statement today, it looks like our options are 1) to go with the "trigger option" with Olympia Snowe's vote getting us to 60 votes in the Senate or 2) to use the reconciliation process.

The downsides of #1 are obvious- Snowe would basically be writing the bill in spite of the fact that few in either party outside of her like the trigger option. The insurance companies may just play nice for a few years so that the option is not triggered and then resume their old ways once the heat passes politically.

The downsides of #2 are very real, however. In particular, any bill passed by reconciliation needs only 50 votes in the Senate, but it will sunset in five years and have to be re-enacted every five years in perpetuity. That will keep health care in constant political limbo, and subject to demagoging by Republicans for political benefit. Plus, a lot of the bill can be cut out by procedural votes, since the reconciliation process only allows budget-related matters to be addressed.

So in light of this, which do you prefer: the trigger option or reconciliation. I know we all prefer a full public option, but we need Lieberman or Snowe's vote for that and both are adamant that it won't be forthcoming.

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 04:00 PM
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1. What would I really prefer?
Changing campaign finance laws so that the corporations and special interest groups don't finance campaigns - and then throwing all the apineless bastards currently in office out on their sorry asses.

I've yet to see anything resembling an effort at producing real meaningful healthcare reform. The current proposals are a clusterfuck doomed to ultimate failure.
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 04:16 PM
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3. What she said! n/t
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 04:15 PM
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2. How about... Single Payer now, or every last one of these Democrats becomes "Who?"
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 04:19 PM
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4. That's got my vote.
Short of that - reconciliation. They NEED to revisit this crap they're getting ready to shove down our throats, so a sunset clause is a good thing.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 04:51 PM
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5. Single Payer! Single Payer! Single Payer!
Single Payer! Single Payer! Single Payer!
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 04:52 PM
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6. Single payer
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 05:38 PM
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7. Reconciliation...but it won't come to that...
I'm sure that, over the next few days, the White House will intervene and tell Reid and Pelosi to come up with a bill that will get 60 votes. We get a worthless trigger, the insurance companies get rich off the individual mandate, Snowe and Lieberman win, and the rest of us lose.

:-(

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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 05:42 PM
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8. I don't like the ending to that movie.
But I wouldn't be surprised.

Some days it all feels hopeless.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 05:44 PM
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9. I see we have at least one Snowe Job fan here
:evilfrown:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 05:45 PM
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10. I don't see why Dems should give her the power.
Let her obstruct with the rest of her pathetic party. Make her grovel to be included in the next debate.
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