Fucking Asshole Piece of Shit Monster Excuse for a Human Being Richard Perle!!!!!!

[Hissyspit]

God-damned pathetic self-justifying delusional shitting crapping horrible garbage excuse for an American monster!!!! Horrible damned manipulative asshole weasel fucker sick bastard.

I'm so fucking mad listening to his garbage and lies and twisting of truth that I can't even right a decent post about it! Abu Nidal, give me a fucking break. Iraq tied to terrorism, give me a fucking break. Meeting with the protestors to save his reputation footage, give me a fucking break. Sickening.

[MADem]

1. Now that's a hissyspit, Hissyspit. Not that your assessment isn't right on the mark..! NT

[Radio_Lady]

11. You folks are at 10 PM Eastern Time. I am at 7 PM Pacific Time.

Jim Lehrer is on at this time with the Newshour.

What are YOU watching?

[Hissyspit]

14. "America At A Crossroad: Case For War" Second episode tonight on WUNC

started at 10 p.m. ET.

[MADem]

16. I've got MSNBC on in the background, but I am surfing. NT

[Hieronymus]

72. Anyone know if the Perle piece will air again?

[yourout]

2. Tell me what you really think.

I will say I agree with you but in a less colorful way.

[Hissyspit]

10. Remember Bill Hicks' bit about sucking off Satan?

I'm watching it take place in front of me on PBS.

[bonito]

38. He's an ass

hole who thinks he's a dick, every time I read about him I gotta go flush the toilet.

[Turbineguy]

3. What

he said.

[kenny blankenship]

4. Aren't you glad PBS is using your money to give this Nazi a soapbox?

again.

[Arkansas Granny]

34. I watched the whole thing and what struck me was that most of

the people he talked to had an entirely different viewpoint than he did. With each one, he just stated that he disagreed and dismissed their opinions without being able to back any of his statements with facts.

[Breeze54]

36. Now he's denying that he was an architect of the war!

On Charlie Rose! :grr: (PBS)

[Arkansas Granny]

40. Oh really! Check this out:

Saturday, Nov. 4, 2006 2:56 p.m. EST
Richard Perle: Iraq War Decision Wrong

Richard Perle, a leading proponent of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, now says devastating dysfunction within the Bush administration has turned U.S. policy there into a disaster.

"At the end of the day, you have to hold the president responsible," Perle told Vanity Fair magazine.


Perle said had he seen at the start of the war in 2003 "where we are today" he probably would not have advocated an invasion to depose President Saddam Hussein.

"I probably would have said, 'Let's consider other strategies for dealing with the thing that concerns us most, which is Saddam supplying weapons of mass destruction to terrorists.'"

More at link.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/11/4/150148.shtml?s=ic

[Breeze54]

46. PNAC member of the week: Richard Perle

Richard Perle (U.S.)

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/richard_perle.htm

Assistant Sec. of Defense under Reagan

*** Co-founder, Project for the New American Century ***

Research Fellow American Enterprise Institute

Board of Advisors, Foundation For Defense Of Democracy

Resigned as chair of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board on 3/27/03 due
to conflict of interest scandal, see New Yorker, 3/27/03.

Member Defense Policy Board to present <01.21.0.4>

snip-->

Like many of Bush's top whitehouse and pentagon officials, he's a war profiteer who consulted
for the very companies that profited from the illegal invasion of Iraq and was one of the most
ardent supporters of the invasion. Rummy consulted for Bechtel, Cheney, of course, had Halliburton.
The Carlyle Group had Bush Sr. on their board and Perle worked for Trireme, a venture capital
firm and defense contractor similar to The Carlyle Group. As pentagon adviser, Richard N. Perle
coauthored an opinion piece this summer praising a Pentagon plan to lease tanker aircraft --
which had the potential to steer billions of dollars to Boeing Co. -- 16 months after Boeing
committed to invest $20 million with Trireme.

More at link..........


Is “Prince of Darkness” Richard Perle About to Go Down in Flames?
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/Jan_Feb_2004/0401009.html

=====================================


'Rebuilding America's Defenses' and the Project for the New American Century

by Bette Stockbauer

June 18, 2003

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/stockbauer1.html

snip-->

Rebuilding America's Defenses (RAD)" is a policy document published by a neoconservative
Washington think tank called the *** Project for the New American Century (PNAC)***.
Its pages have been compared to Hitler's Mein Kampf in that they outline an aggressive
military plan for U.S. world domination during the coming century.

-----------------

No offense but I avoid RW BS places like newsmax-puke

[Arkansas Granny]

50. Normally, I do too, but I thought this article was rather interesting

considering that Perle was denying being one of the architects of the war and then criticizing Bush when the plan turned sour on them. Talk about flip flops.

[Breeze54]

54. It was interesting that

news-max-puke had it on their website!!

Are they also 'waking up'??

Thanks!! ;)

[Lasher]

63. I've seen that form of denial before from Perle.

It goes like this:

It was a perfect plan. We did everything right. Junior screwed it up. Or Rummy. Or Lord Vader. It's their fault not ours (neocons). How were we to know? They're not a genuine Publicans. All we need is to elect a real Publican president in '08. Then dust off the brilliant PNAC plan and try it again. And again. And again.

[EmmitFitzhume]

77. Exactly

PBS didn't give him a soapbox, but provided everyone with the chance to see how hollow his necon rhetoric is. That Perle couldn't even concur with Abdel Bari Atwan in that we destabilized the region by invading Iraq is amazing yet not surprising.

I actually watched the whole thing, it was like watching someone lose a debate.

Tonight's documentaries looks great, one is on Muslims in the US and the other on home grown terrorism in Europe.

[coda]

82. Same here Emmit. The entire series has been incredible.

I don't see how anyone who has watched the series since it began on Sunday would see it as a cheerleading propaganda piece for neo-con ideology/policy. If that was aim of Tomlinson and Pack, it failed miserably.


Anything presenting Perle as the face of, and a proponent and defender of Bush Admin/neo-con policy is a good thing and his litany of lies on the last night's program was a stark dislay an ideology (and legacy)in collapse. The only way to charachterize his silly remark about JFK's innagural speech and his other baseless claims? Transparently desperate.

[CoffeeCat]

80. You got it...

You hit it on the mark.

Why on Earth is PBS giving Richard Perle a public forum? The PBS program gives the appearance
that there are two valid sides--the people who are against the war and the people on Perle's side
of the aisle.

No way.

There is a reality out there--and when it comes to the Iraq war--it's not pretty and it's
a damn, criminal shame. Richard Perle's babbling evil should not be legitimized and positioned
as one side of the debate.

If PBS was doing its job, and if there were real journalists working on this story--they would
expose these murderous, incompetent, destructive ingrates with the truth!

PBS!! Stop giving Fascist thugs a credible platform on which to normalize their evil!

[acmavm]

5. You know what really bugs these clowns? I mean as far as they can be

bugged? The are now starting to see what collossal pieces of subhuman garbage they will be seen as through the ages. See, a lot of administration don't get a lot of attention in the history books. But these criminals? Oh yeah, they will be roasted over the coals for all eternity.

They think the can build their own legacy and have it come out the way they want it. But now they know that they'll go down in history next to people like Hitler, Stalin, Khomeni, Mao.

AND THEY SOOOOOOOOOOOOO DESERVE IT.

[krkaufman]

78. Out of curiosity... what did Khomeni do to warrant inclusion with that group? n/t

[aquart]

6. Yes.

[flyarm]

7. oh thank you Hissyspit..my sentiments exactly!! now i must shower after

turning on for a few minutes after seeing threads to watch..

i had to go puke and now i am off to the showers to get the perle shit off my brains!!

thanks Hissyspit..you nailed it!!

fly

[madrchsod]

8. ok--- what did he do now.....?

ya he`s a weasel

[Wilms]

9. You're too kind. n/t

[Maat]

12. Hissyspit was too kind, huh? (n/t)

[DemoTex]

13. Abu Nidal?

That's the old Ollie North canard. Reason for the home security system and all that crap.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. Hissy! Chill dude!

We need you. :hug:

[Hissyspit]

20. I'm not going anywhere. But are you watching it? It's revolting.

A whole hour of it.

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. I turned it on when I saw your thread

And I am about to turn back to a channel with a happy story about the murders in VA!

[firefox_fan]

33. Kinda revolting.

But educational at the same time... I almost puked at the beginning (before the Perle segment), when they showed the mutilated bodies. I was having dinner... Bad idea.

[tetedur]

17. Perle's a Democrat! I'll bet he votes that way all the time.

And if Bush would've given JFK's inauguration speech Bush would be called a neo-con. How Dare he take that man's memory and use it out of context. This is the biggest piece of propoganda garbage that will air this year I predict. Note: it was my opinion that Robert MacNeil was proud of Perle's views. I heard MacNeil in an interview with Bob Edwards. I couldn't have imagined that it was this bad. This goes beyond my imagination.

[Arkansas Granny]

35. Can you believe he said that? A Democrat who signed PNAC's

letter to Bill Clinton. Tell me another one Richard.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

He's delusional!

[Individualist]

18. That carrion-eating PNAC vulture makes sewage scum look clean!

[Gregorian]

19. At least he doesn't have Kristol's smile while he's doing it.

By the way- You win the "best ever subject title" award!

[flying_monkeys]

21. Take a breath, hissy - - go on, breathe - - - - -

Now, continue - - I think you left some words off there. With that extra breath, you can now carry on :)

[Glimmer of Hope]

23. I am with you!! I can't believe PBS is airing this right wing crap.

[Benhurst]

25. I can. They let Gwen Ifill moderate Washington Week in Review.

[Arkansas Granny]

37. But if you notice, almost everyone he talks to disputes his points

and he is unable to back anything he says up with fact. He just disagrees, like that is going to carry any weight. Maybe PBS saw this as a way to make Bush's policy look like the complete failure it is. Perle didn't come off as looking credible in the least.

[Hissyspit]

48. Also, lots of anti-Bush protest footage.

I was railing against Perle and not so much this show. Coming after the previous episode on the corruption and torture from the Iraqi police force, Perle looked like an ass.

[Arkansas Granny]

51. I don't think that segment was designed to make Perle or the

Bush administration look good.

[Hissyspit]

58. See Post #53.

For a good assessment of the series.

[raccoon]

76. Thank you for pointing that out, Arkansas Granny.

"But if you notice, almost everyone he talks to disputes his points"

And also in your previous post you said something similar.

I didn't see the show, but thanks for your assessment. It is easy to make the leap from "Richard Perle is on the show," to "PBS is making Perle look like a hero."

[Breeze54]

24. I'll second that!

:grr: Arrogant doesn't even begin to describe it!!

Now he's blaming THE LEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hissyspit]

26. Using "unilateral" action in Bosnia as defense for Iraq. Uses fall of Soviet Union

as defense for action in Iraq.

Now he's quoting Thomas Jefferson to defend his actions.

Incredible.

[roamer65]

27. Get 'em hissyspit...right on!

:evilgrin:

[Crunchy Frog]

28. I caught a few minutes of it...

but only because I was in need of an emetic. It did its job, and now I'm finished watching. :puke:

[truth2power]

29. Perle is a mental case who lives in his own fantasy world..

And, yes, he's everything you said. I tried to watch him tonite, but I had to keep flipping back to the VT special because it was actually LESS disturbing than looking at that disgusting POS.

[Hissyspit]

30. And he had the gall to call us delusional. n/t

[firefox_fan]

32. Totally! And he accuses the Peace Movements

of living in a paranoid fantasy world! There were some good rebuttals, but overall I think they let him get away with lies. I mean, he repeated the freaking lie that there was a strong connection bewteen Saddam and Bin Laden/Al Quaeda!

[dchill]

31. I sure had to read a ways before I knew which...

Fucking Asshole Piece of Shit Monster Excuse for a Human Being you were venting about! Then I saw who it was and I thought, "Oh, THAT horrible damned manipulative asshole weasel fucker sick bastard."

;)

[canichelouis]

39. It gets worse

He is now on Charlie Rose. Second segment. Unbelievable!

[minkyboodle]

41. in case you haven't read it

this editorial is right on IMO

http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2007/04/17/crossroads/

[Bigmack]

42. We're gonna have to use...

... a wooden stake thru the heart to get rid of that fucking vampire. Look at him! If he's not a fucking bloodsucking monster.....

Why is it that I see more Perle and Gingrich on TV these days?

[tandot]

43. But...how do you REALLY feel???

I am absolutely on your side. Absolute BS.

[HughMoran]

44. Agree completely

This man is as close to pure evil posing as a literate person as I have ever seen in my life.

I literally hate this "man".

[Hissyspit]

45. "write," not "right" See how infuriating it was? And I went and forgot to take

my blood pressure water pill today before I watched that mess. LOL Going to take it right now.

[progressoid]

47. Ahhh, I guess you watched it huh? I couldn't bear it so I went to the library instead.

[ToeBot]

49. I'm trying - but I have no words...... n/t

[annm4peace]

52. HAA HAAAA.. My thought exactly from the begining title

I could believe what I was hearing also. He is so delusional, but unfortunately some watching the show will believe what he has to say.. but if the person listen is a critical thinker they will say "What the Fuch?". Too bad they don't do an hour interview with one of the member from
"MIlitary Families Speak Out" that they showed in the begining.

* I received a call from local PBS station for donations yestereday.. I said I couldn't because of them not giving enough shows to cover the truth of the lies from the White House. excluding
Frontline and NOW. I said I was giving my money to "Free Speech TV" on Dish Network instead

[Hissyspit]

53. Background on "America At A Crossroads" series at Salon by Gary Kamiya:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2007/04/17/crossroads/

"America at a Crossroads" veers to the right
The highly touted PBS series on Islam and terrorism casts a cold eye on Bush's Iraq disaster -- but fails to examine Mideast history or America's failed policies in the region.
By Gary Kamiya

- snip -

"Crossroads" came to the air as a result of right-wing pressure and intellectual timidity. The project began during the tenures of Ken Tomlinson and Michael Pack, two conservatives who held top positions at the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the government-run nonprofit that oversees PBS and its more than 300 local affiliates. Tomlinson was a Bush hack whose mandate as CPB board chairman was to tilt PBS's programming to the right. To do that, Tomlinson paid a consultant $14,000 to vet the Bill Moyers program "Now" for liberal bias, and hired two ombudsmen to monitor PBS news programming. Outrage over these practices and a damning internal report forced Tomlinson to resign in 2005. Pack, a conservative documentarian -- his résumé includes a sympathetic doc about Newt Gingrich and a film called "Hollywood vs. Religion" narrated by Michael Medved -- was brought in as CPB's executive vice president to make PBS's programming more conservative.

"Crossroads" was Pack's brainchild. In 2004, CPB put out a call for proposals about films dealing with terrorism, Islam and the post-9/11 world. It received 440 proposals, awarding full production funding to 21. But the series immediately became engulfed in controversy. Critics charged that the Perle episode and one called "Warriors," about U.S. troops in Iraq, were biased toward the Bush administration. These charges grew even louder when it was revealed that the original producer of the Perle episode, British filmmaker Brian Lapping, was a friend of Perle's. (Lapping eventually recused himself from the film. Karl Zinsmeister, a co-producer of "Warriors," also left the project after he took a job as Bush's chief domestic-policy advisor.)

- snip -

There are two episodes of "Crossroads" that stand head and shoulders above the rest. The first and best, which airs Monday night, is a truly extraordinary film called "Operation Homecoming: Writing the Wartime Experience." Featuring unforgettable writing about Iraq, including the brilliant poetry of Brian Turner and extraordinary pieces by ordinary soldiers, and searing appearances by older-generation war-lit giants like Tim O'Brien and James Salter, this film brings the dreadful reality of Iraq home more than anything else I've seen.

- snip -

Here's what "Crossroads" should have included. First, it should have devoted one film to this war of ideas, giving each side its due. Then it should have commissioned another film offering a historical survey of the Middle East starting in 1798, when Napoleon invaded Egypt, and ending today. This film would have looked at French and British colonialism and its effects on the development of Arab democracies. It would have talked about the Sykes-Picot Agreement that betrayed Arab nationalist hopes after WWI, and Great Britain's imperialist misadventures in Iraq, which so closely resemble our own. The Palestinian naqba, or catastrophe, would be covered. The film would examine the U.S.-backed coup in 1953 that removed Iranian leader Muhammad Mossadegh. The Suez crisis, the failure of Arab nationalism, America's long proxy war with the USSR in the Middle East, the Six-Day War and 1973 October war, and U.S. hypocrisy in dealing with Saddam Hussein would all be discussed. The Algerian government's fateful decision in 1991 to suspend elections when it became clear Islamists were going to win -- a decision followed by an appalling civil war that killed 200,000 people -- would be covered. And it would have looked at Israel's 2006 war against Lebanon.

MORE

[Breeze54]

56. Thanks! Good article!

;)

[minkyboodle]

61. exactly

this article is right on and I have been trying to get it
out on the DU community for awhile now. Thanks for
posting what is a damning indictment of a flawed series :)

[illinoisprogressive]

55. Feel better? we all have the same rage against the pissant.

[Stephanie]

57. I have no idea what you're referring to - PBS show I gather? But K&R regardless.

He's a motherfucking piece of shit, Perle. Worst of the worst.

[Hissyspit]

59. See post #53 and #14. n/t

[rosesaylavee]

60. Funny - You must have been channeling me!

I was watching that for a while and pretty much word for word said what you said above.

I turned it off after I listened to the women who coordinated the DC protest with the boots last year. I think she handled herself magnificently. I would have lunged for his jugular and been thrown in jail.

Asshat. Perle will get his comeuppance. I hope I can be there to watch when he does. Karma is a bitch. And for him - a BIG TIME bitch.

[nam78_two]

62. Agree.nt

[Hissyspit]

64. I left out "immoral." n/t

[Eurobabe]

65. Oh, am I going to be THAT upset when I watch this ghoul

this afternoon? I have the series TiVOd, but I missed the first evening. My mom has been very upset by this series.

:mad:

Perle and Cheney are two birds of a feather.

[Hissyspit]

69. The Operation Homecoming episode was upsetting in a good way. The Richard Perle

episode was upsetting in a slimy way. Yes, you'll be upset.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

66. This shit-weasel belongs in the gallows. Warning -- graphic content...

[hwmnbn]

67. I see you watched the PBS piece....

I've spent the last 4 years on numerous forums and in conversations debunking every point this asshole made. He is LYING still!!

I could not finish watching it.

[Hissyspit]

70. It just got STUPID toward the end, not as upsetting, but no less morally repugnant. n/t

[barb162]

68. So what are you really trying to say there in bold? Spit it out

Seriously , he is a lying creep. I couldn't even watch that show. Somehow SO had the stomach to watch it.

[calimary]

71. Hey, works for me! This schmuck deserves EVERY invective known to

humankind. How 'bout let's send HIM to Iraq.

[Patiod]

73. Re Iraq: I want to ask him "so, how's that workin' out for ya?"

in my best Dr. Phil voice.

That show made me so angry last night. Especially when we all see what a Total Thorough Complete and Utter Absolute Disaster the neo-con policies turned out to be when they were given free reign (See "Imperial life in the Emerald City : inside Iraq's Green Zone by Rajiv Chandrasekaran"). The bit at the Jefferson Memorial put me over the top.

He reminds me a a self-important intellectually pretentious distant cousin of my mother's, who uses the same smug little hand gestures when he explains "The Truth" to we mere mortals. So repulsive.

[Little Star]

74. Couldn't have said it better!!!!! n/t

[B3Nut]

75. Aw fer cripes, Hissyspit...

...you're too kind and charitable in your assessment of that feckless fesetering fucknozzle...have a few drinks and have a go at another rant afterwards. You like bourbon? :D

Todd in Cheesecurdistan

[Hissyspit]

85. Look out. NPR is running a feature Thursday on "Professor" Douglas Feith...

Apparently he is being allowed to teach classes at Georgetown University, instead being forced to make license plates.

[krkaufman]

79. Whole "Crossroads" series started as propaganda, and appears to remain so

From a St.Louis Post-Dispatch column on the series...

(link) "Crossroads" was conceived in 2004 at the Corporation for Public Broadcasting under its disgraced former chairman, Kenneth Tomlinson. Tomlinson, a Bush administration apparatchik who worked to infect public television with right-wing ideology, resigned in 2005 after an inspector general's investigation into his actions found evidence of repeated violations of policies, ethics and law. Tomlinson maintained he did nothing wrong.

...the overall goal of the project:

Connect religion, feminism, adolescent rebellion, immigration patterns and contemporary culture in the contexts of contemporary western, middle-eastern and Asian civilizations; retrace the roots and recent history of Islamist terrorism; justify the political underpinnings of the American invasion of Iraq; get inside the tribal, sectarian factions of Iraq's civil war; and convey honestly the physical, psychological and emotional experiences of American soldiers under fire.

...

And in "The Case for War: In Defense of Freedom," former government official Richard Perle, among the most enthusiastic proponents of preemptive war against Iraq, cheerfully sticks to the discredited fiction of a substantive working relationship between Saddam Hussein and bin Laden's group. At least he engages several of his critics in lively discussion.

JUSTIFY the underpinnings of the Iraq invasion? That hardly sounds like getting to the truth. It sounds like a documentary produced by the Office of Special Plans.

[Blue_In_AK]

81. Hissyspit, I couldn't agree with you more...

While some people on this thread seem to resent the fact that Perle was given this hour to bloviate, I see it as a good thing to expose his dark soul, in his own words and through his own eyes. I doubt very seriously if he won any converts -- especially considering that every single person he interacted with had convincing arguments against his position.

I did spend a lot of time yelling at the TV, though. :)

[happydreams]

83. K&R. Here is something...

on his war profiteering.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=693562&mesg_id=693562

[John Q. Citizen]

84. I can't believe they gave him a platform to plead his case. I saw the PBS show

last night, and it was a travesty.

When are they going to give Cindy Shehan an hour to say her piece?