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Anybody else think Mike Scoscia just cost himself his job?

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Oct-22-09 10:23 PM
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Anybody else think Mike Scoscia just cost himself his job?
Sorry for the sports digression, but I can't be the only one watching the AL playoff.

Scoscia pulled his starter in the seventh even though the guy had just retired Damon and was one out away from getting out of it. Now the Yankees have scored six runs and the Angels are probably doomed. Any chance the Angel front office WON'T can the guy for this?

This may be THE bonehead baseball move of the year.
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   No, he just got the phone call reminding him that the Yankees are supposed to win.  Brickbat   Oct-22-09 10:24 PM   #1 
   Well, that would be a great set-up for "Eight Men Out II".  Ken Burch   Oct-22-09 10:27 PM   #3 
   Wow.  Barack_America   Oct-22-09 10:24 PM   #2 
   Yep. It just gave me a "Grady Little" headache. So long,Mike.  virgogal   Oct-22-09 10:27 PM   #4 
   Didn't Lackey walk a guy (bad call), lose his cool with the ump, then walk the next guy?  flvegan   Oct-22-09 10:30 PM   #5 
   Nah. It's a tough call.  Mojambo   Oct-22-09 10:30 PM   #6 
   Clearly, the Angels aren't going to come back from this  Ken Burch   Oct-22-09 10:32 PM   #7 
      Yeah, they're cooked  gratuitous   Oct-22-09 10:45 PM   #9 
      OK..,for the moment, they recovered  Ken Burch   Oct-22-09 11:10 PM   #11 
      And the hits just keep on comin'  gratuitous   Oct-22-09 10:47 PM   #10 
   He was just going by "The Book"  DefenseLawyer   Oct-22-09 10:36 PM   #8 
   The book will change again.  tekisui   Oct-22-09 11:40 PM   #17 
   Anyone check the scoreboard lately?  cherokeeprogressive   Oct-22-09 11:16 PM   #12 
   As it happens, he didn't blow the game, but it did look like it had gone south at the time  Ken Burch   Oct-22-09 11:36 PM   #15 
   It ain't over til it's... what?  cherokeeprogressive   Oct-22-09 11:45 PM   #18 
   Are the Dodgers gonna stay with Torre, btw?  Ken Burch   Oct-23-09 01:25 AM   #24 
   Final. Angels Win 7-6  cherokeeprogressive   Oct-22-09 11:32 PM   #13 
   Fortunately, they pulled it out.  Ken Burch   Oct-22-09 11:36 PM   #16 
   LOL  nini   Oct-22-09 11:34 PM   #14 
   I was going on what it looked like in the top of the seventh.  Ken Burch   Oct-22-09 11:56 PM   #19 
      that's the thing though  nini   Oct-23-09 12:24 AM   #20 
   Welcome to the world of 9 innings.  A-Schwarzenegger   Oct-23-09 12:39 AM   #21 
   well, they did win (barely), so he's off the hook for now...  Blue_Tires   Oct-23-09 12:41 AM   #22 
      His team saved him  Ken Burch   Oct-23-09 12:50 AM   #23 
 
Brickbat (937 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 10:24 PM
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1. No, he just got the phone call reminding him that the Yankees are supposed to win.
The check is in the mail.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Oct-22-09 10:27 PM
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3. Well, that would be a great set-up for "Eight Men Out II".
n/t.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 10:24 PM
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2. Wow.
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 10:27 PM
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4. Yep. It just gave me a "Grady Little" headache. So long,Mike.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 10:30 PM
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5. Didn't Lackey walk a guy (bad call), lose his cool with the ump, then walk the next guy?
And this was after 5 2/3 innings, I think. I wasn't paying close attention, but after that bit I'm not that shocked. I probably wouldn't have, but still.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 10:30 PM
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6. Nah. It's a tough call.
Lackey was at 104 pitches with the meat of the order coming up.

I wouldn't have pulled him, but it's not like he yanked a fresh pitcher in a weird spot.

Scoscia consistently gets great production out of his players. That organization is better for having him in it.

One potentially marginal decision shouldn't cost him his job.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Oct-22-09 10:32 PM
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7. Clearly, the Angels aren't going to come back from this
Nobody gets hammered this bad this late in a game and then rallies.

The OC is gonna be baying for Scoscia's blood tomorrow. SC area sports talk radio will probably need a seven MINUTE delay on the callers.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 10:45 PM
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9. Yeah, they're cooked
Oops, maybe not.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Oct-22-09 11:10 PM
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11. OK..,for the moment, they recovered
Hope it holds up.

God I hope the Yankees don't win. The team represents baseball Reaganism at its worst.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 10:47 PM
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10. And the hits just keep on comin'
We'll see now if the Yankmes have what it takes to come back again.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 10:36 PM
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8. He was just going by "The Book"
Just like almost every manager in the game these days. The exact same thing Girardi did when he pulled Robertson in game three.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 11:40 PM
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17. The book will change again.Updated at 7:31 PM
Someday.
;-)
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 11:16 PM
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12. Anyone check the scoreboard lately?
Bottom of the eighth, and the Angels up by a run? NY has three outs to score a run after this next out.

And, if I must say, I guess you don't know Arte Moreno or Mick Scoscia very well. Mike's there for quite some time. As a Dodger fan, I'd love nothing more than to see him come home and coach the Dodgers, but he's there, Arte will forgive him for blowing a game, and he's there to stay.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Oct-22-09 11:36 PM
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15. As it happens, he didn't blow the game, but it did look like it had gone south at the time
n/t.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 11:45 PM
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18. It ain't over til it's... what?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Oct-23-09 01:25 AM
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24. Are the Dodgers gonna stay with Torre, btw?
n/t.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 11:32 PM
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13. Final. Angels Win 7-6
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Oct-22-09 11:36 PM
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16. Fortunately, they pulled it out.
n/t.
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nini (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-22-09 11:34 PM
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14. LOL
though I will say he left Fuentes in there too long.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Oct-22-09 11:56 PM
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19. I was going on what it looked like in the top of the seventh.
the team saved Scoscia's ass, and he owes them BIG time for shaking it off.
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nini (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-23-09 12:24 AM
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20. that's the thing though
You have to have confidence in your team to make those decisions.

I doubt Scioscia will get the axe after bring his team to the AL championship. That decision could have been questioned if he had left the guy in and the next batter got a hit - he'd be questioned for that too. You go with the odds and roll with the punches.

I will say these playoff games have been nuts this year and just about anything can happen.

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21. Welcome to the world of 9 innings.
:hi:
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22. well, they did win (barely), so he's off the hook for now...Updated at 8:36 PM
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Oct-23-09 12:50 AM
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23. His team saved him
Hopefully they can pull off a miracle this weekend. It'd suck to have the whole World Series in the Northeast in November.
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