I GOT THE SWINE FLU VACCINE!!!

[FourScore]

I am extremely excited about this because I suffer from a severe breathing disorder that only leaves me at 25% normal breathing capacity on a good day.

I have been very afraid of getting the swine flu. It has been rampant in our area (and 2 of my children may have already had it).

All my kids were vaccinated at the same time. Two of them have asthma, so we are all VERY glad to get the shot.

PHEW!!!

[Barack_America]

1. Congrats. I get mine on Thursday.

Also an asthmatic.

[FourScore]

60. Congrats to you as well!

[vadawg]

2. yup we all got it and the seasonal last week or so ago

im wondering what the anti vaxxers are going to proscribe to each other in the event that they get it or their kids get it real bad, and if the prescription also works for other ailments that are vaccinated for, ie smallpox, hepatitus, tetanus etc etc..

[Ian David]

4. This year, they're talking-up Vitamin D, a fat-soluble vitamin. Should help thin the herd. n/t

[girl gone mad]

11. You're pretty hung up on that notion.

However, studies cast serious doubt on the efficacy of standard flu vaccine. Infection and death rates appear to be the same in both vaccinated and unvaccinated populations. There is no data on swine flu vaccine yet, but maybe this will be a flu virus that doesn't mutate much.

[Ian David]

13. You're absolutely correct. Vaccines don't work. I'll take your dose. n/t

[postulater]

16. Does a double dose help twice as long?

[Ian David]

24. No. n/t

[vadawg]

26. but if you can take it with you ;) then you can sell it to the vit D dudes

if this thing takes off and gets real bad. You could make a few bob on ebay,.,

[TwilightGardener]

41. From all of these vaccine threads, I've come to the conclusion

that you'd trample your own grandma at Walgreens to be the first in line.

[Ian David]

46. No. Because my grandma wasn't an ignorant and socially irresponsible anti-vax loon.

She would have been in line right ahead of me.

[TwilightGardener]

48. Not sure what you're referring to, but there's rightful concern and then there's hysteria.

You fit the latter, with all your posts about "thinning the herd" and "more for me!"--Jesus. Get a grip. They'll make enough to go around.

[Ian David]

3. Congrats! My daughter is getting it today.

Because of the shortage, there's probably not going to be enough around for my wife and I to get it as well.

That's why this year, I'm not going to be trying to talk morons into getting vaccinated. This year, the bottleneck is supply, not compliance.

[girl gone mad]

5. Good news..

just be aware that the protection from this vaccine is likely to be limited to one degree or another, so be sure to take normal precautions against the flu.

My household got over h1n1 last week. The symptoms were very mild, fortunately.

[FourScore]

8. Yes, we have implemented a regimen consisting of

a nasal bath with saline solution and gargling with lysterine two times a day (at teeth-brushing-time). Bacteria and viruses tend to hang out in the nasal and throat passage for 24-48 hours before moving further into the body, so if you can head them off at the pass, that can work wonders. Of course hand and face washing is good too, but almost impossible to keep on top of with small kids.

[Triana]

43. I got a one-page sheet with recommendations that included sinus saline bath...

..swabbing the nostrils with sesame oil (keeps them moist - dry, cracked sinuses are more prone to introduction of germs/virus), gargling with warm salt water or listerine, etc.

I will scan and post it here later. It was from my voice coach. I intend to make copies and send to Mom and family members but can also scan and post on DU.

Prevention is probably best.

[TuxedoKat]

45. In case I miss seeing it

can you pm it to me? TIA.

[Triana]

58. sure. I bookmarked this thread...

...remind me via PM if I forget!

[vadawg]

50. interesting was this from the CDC or other official source or is it just something your voice coach

did, i dont think it would hurt but unless you are going to live in a bubble you are not going to avoid the flu if its all around you, no matter how many times you hose out your nose...

[Triana]

54. Just from voice coach. She wasn't advocating doing this INSTEAD of a flu shot

but rather in addition to, as an extra means of prevention, along with washing hands etc. which is also on the sheet.

[mainer]

6. I'll have to be patient and wait for mine.

I'm too old and too healthy to be in any high-risk group.

But I sure wish my 20-something kids would get theirs soon.

[ThomWV]

7. God Bless you! You are one of the few who are likely to live.

[kjackson227]

9. Good for you and your family. After seeing the young guy on...

60 Minutes this Sunday (who is in ICU and in an induced coma because of this flu and a bacterial staph infection), I'm more determined than ever to get my shot for me and my girls.

[FourScore]

37. I haven't seen that yet. I plan to though. n/t

[Triana]

10. They won't give it to my Mom. She has asthma and COPD and is in her 80s

however, she just got her regular flu shot and it made her sick as a dog. She ended up in ER with that.

[FourScore]

12. That is odd because my doc explained that this vaccine does not use a live virus.

So he said we shouldn't experience any possible flu-like symptoms from it.

In any case, I'm sorry you're mother is so ill and I hope she recovers swiftly.

[Triana]

39. what she got was a regular flu shot (which they are apparently using live virus for this year)

It wasn't the H1N1. They won't give her that - yet. I think they're giving it to children and health care workers first, then others later. She's in CA. I guess this goes state by state.

Thanks re: Mom - she's home and slowly improving. It didn't help that the power was out during this and she couldn't even use her nebulizer. They require electricity. Sheesh.

EDIT: Mom said the regular flu shot this year does contain a live virus - but maybe she misunderstood.

[gkhouston]

44. IIRC, the seasonal flu shot has inactivated viruses and the FluMist has

live attenuated viruses.

[pinto]

47. Hope your mom is doing well. The flu shot is a killed virus. Nasal vaccine has live virus.

see: http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/protect/keyfacts.htm

Maybe you could re-assure her.

[Triana]

55. She got a shot. But it made her sick. Great link. Thanks! n/t

[uppityperson]

63. They are NOT using live virus in the shot. In the nasal vaccine they are, but NOT in shot.

Hope your mom is getting better

[Ms. Toad]

62. Depends on which one you are getting -

the H1N1 and seasonal flu vaccines are (or will be) both available in both forms.

[Ilsa]

17. Maybe your sweet mom has an allergy to something in that vax? Or maybe

she had already been exposed to a virus before getting it, and it incubated and reacted. The regular flu vax by injection doesn't use a live virus.

[vadawg]

20. or she got one of the shots with solanin in it,

personally im ready for the outbreak with my machete and guns....

[Triana]

40. ? What is "solanin"?

Ignorant here...and she told me that they are using live virus this year in the regular flu shots?

She's in her 80s - so she might be confused about that.

[FourScore]

49. don't worry. It's not in any of the vaccines.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Triana]

57. Sheesh. A hoax. Just what we need amidst this. Must be the same folks that came up

with "death panels" and clinics in schools that provide abortions. Pfft.

[vadawg]

51. dont worry if we start to see zombies as part of the outbreak you will know

i guess im just confusing some who are not aware of the dangers of the undead....

[ThatsMyBarack]

14. K&R....

Can I ask where? I'm thinking to stopping by my local chain drugstores this afternoon.

I got my seasonal flu shot at Walgreen's last month.

[FourScore]

19. A close friend who is a pediatrician in town.

We are in the process of switching to his office for family care anyway, so he went ahead and vaccinated us. His kids and my kids are good friends so they all got the shot together in my living room. We were literally the first in town to receive it.

It does not surprise me that he got the vaccine so soon. His area of expertise is vaccinations and he has published a medical book about them. He goes to conferences and such all the time.

[betharina]

15. good for you.

my county health dept. doesn't even have it yet.

[Ilsa]

18. Excellent! With your pulmonary condition, you definitely meet the high risk

category to get it first. I'm happy for you that this was made available to you so early.

[FourScore]

22. Yes, my husband is not in any high risk group, so he did not get it yet.

He's okay with that. He's just glad that the rest of us got it.

Our friend (and pediatrician) is only giving them to those in the high-risk groups for now. And rightly so.

[ecstatic]

21. You did what was right for you. Congrats! nt

[Robb]

23. Do you feel any urges to bleat uncontrollably? Arms extending forward stiffly?

I read on DU there's some kind of zombie sheep side effect. It's in a study done by somebody, you find yer own link.

We're getting the jab as soon as we can. Our local clinic does a "drive-by" thing which is great... you fill out paperwork at the first station and get jabbed at the second. Cool thing about it: very little exposure to other folks during that period before antibodies get made.

[FourScore]

25. Baa-

Humbug.

Great idea with the clinic!

[Robb]

30. Mrs. Robb called it

..."A uniquely American solution."

[FourScore]

31. So true. They should call them McVacs. n/t

[Le Taz Hot]

27. Our area is only giving it to 2-yr-olds.

The vaccine won't be in for the next at-risk groups until next months and even then, children 6 and under and pregnant women will be their next priority. As a severe asthmatic, I'm TERRIFIED of getting ANY flu as I am currently without insurance (again!). I'm currently avoiding riding the bus, which I normally do every day. Flu for me could be fatal. I'm SO glad you were able to get the vaccine because I know how vital it is for people with breathing problems.

[FourScore]

29. I understand your fear.

Is there a neighboring town or clinic that could give it to you?

[Le Taz Hot]

34. Unfortunately, no.

The entire Central Valley seems to be on the bottom of the priority list. I'll just be extra cautious, take extra supplements and have echenecia (sp?) close at hand.

[FourScore]

36. We have implemented the folloing regimen after 2 of our kids got sick

and I think it helps.

We rinse the nasal passages with saline solution and gargle with lysterine.

Viruses and bacteria hang out in the nasal and throat passages for 24-48 hours so you really want to head them off at the pass. This was recommended to us by a doctor and it has worked well. At least it will help you to feel somewhat empowered.

Good luck!

[DRoseDARs]

28. OMG ARE YOU DEAD YET? HOW ABOUT NOW? NOW?

HOW ABOUT NOW? ANYTHING? OMG HOW ABOUT NOW?

Silly FourScore, don't you know vaccines are always deadlier than the diseases they treat? Or someshit?

[FourScore]

32. OMG I'm still breathing ....still... still...Wait a minute... what's that?

Okay, phew, that was nothing...

Still...


Still breathing...

[The Straight Story]

53. I am just glad they live in a country where you are not forced to put something in your body

Which is what the whole debate is really about.

[tandot]

33. It is still not available through my provider. I have a 5 mo old and will definitely get it.

[FourScore]

35. Awww. What a doll! n/t

[Triana]

42. I heard that children are particularly sucseptible - because their immune system

isn't built up yet. Don't know if that's true - but in CA (according to Mom) they're giving it to children and HC workers first, apparently.

[tandot]

52. My son is only 5 month old and can't get the vaccination yet. Here is some info:

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/childrentreatment.htm

Infants and Children and the Novel H1N1 Virus

Little is currently known about how this novel influenza A (H1N1) virus circulating in people may affect children. However, seasonal influenza and past pandemics, it is known that children, especially those younger than 5 years of age and those who have high risk medical conditions are at increased risk of influenza-related complications. Among children less than 5 years, the risk for severe complications from seasonal influenza is highest among children less than 2 years old.

Illnesses caused by influenza virus infection are difficult to distinguish from illnesses caused by other respiratory pathogens based on symptoms alone. Young children are less likely to have typical influenza symptoms (e.g., fever and cough) and infants may present to medical care with fever and lethargy, and may not have cough or other respiratory symptoms or signs.

-----------------------------

[xchrom]

38. excellent news.

good health to you this winter.

[liberal_at_heart]

56. that's great

Everyone with underlying medical conditions should get the vaccine. I'm not one of those people who are deathly afraid of the swine flu vaccine or vaccines in general, but I do have a question. Does anyone know if parents of autistic children are getting their children the swine flu vaccine? My son had all of his vaccinations when he was a baby. At three he was diagnosed with autism. I don't believe the vaccines had anything to do with him having autism. He had trouble hitting his developmental milestones from the beginning. But the stories I hear of children developing normally and then boom get autism right after receiving a vaccine has me a little skiddish. I know there was one case in which a court did find in favor of a family in which a vaccine made their nine year old's autism worse.

[tavalon]

59. My autistic son isn't going to get it

but it's a moot point since he is down with it right now.

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. Went looking yesterday

and nothing yet... will go again by friday

[Posteritatis]

64. Are you still alive? Have you since contracted projectile Tourette's? (nt)