another MAN with a GUN

[donsu]

another coward with a gun

women don't make the news DAILY shooting people, it's MEN with GUNS that do that.

and don't anyone come on this thread trying to say women use guns to kill people too. the % of women that do is minuscule. teeny tiny percent.

every day in america a MAN with a GUN in every state kills someone. every day a MAN in practically every County of america kills someone with a GUN. every day a MAN with a GUN in every large city, kills someone with a GUN

since men are unable to control themselves it should be a law that they can't own guns.

I'm sick and tired of MEN killing people with GUNS.

and for the nitwits that say every student needs to carry a gun to class - bite your stupid tongue.

[Little Wing]

1. Ok, what do you say we do about this plague of MEN?

Burn, shred, or drown?

[EstimatedProphet]

7. Obviously, men should be replaced by cloning

I am a man with a gun too. I can't tell you how many people I kill every day just to watch them die.

[bryant69]

8. I don't know - that's kind of inhumane

We could put them in camps or reservations where they could live as men are meant to do. According to TV that means lots of guns and raw meat.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[donsu]

take them out of power and put them in therapy

the race of men is sick.

[Fresh_Start]

2. don't overlook that its another asshole who thought he

ought to be able to control a woman. He killed her. He killed her current boyfriend. Then he discovered his power so much that he'd release it on the world.

Assholes kill women 10-50 times a day.
We are not property.
You don't get to tell us how to live.

Next asshole should just eat his own gun.

[firefox_fan]

5. Probably true. But do we know for sure?

They have not reconstructed the entire story, I think.

[havocmom]

3. I want the popcorn consession on this one

Going to COSTCO for the BIG box of popcorn

[Beelzebud]

4. Let's outlaw Men and Guns! They're EVIL!!!

If I made a post like this, after the next time a woman murders her baby(ies), I'd be vilified.

Men aren't the only ones who can be sexist.

[Monkeyman]

39. Until you do how my friend do I protect my family from the right wing

Who has called with death wishes. Shot up my brothers house because we stand against them. Yes I have a weapon and I am a man. I hate it but it is the only way if my kids are in danger of being killed by these nut cases and they are out there like the Free Republic. Until you can ban guns some of us have to have them. I am trained very well in there use and would never pull it unless real danger is around my kids and me.

[MemphisTiger]

6. Uhh what about the Mary Winkler Trial right now?

she killed her husband by shooting him in the back while he slept...

[Beelzebud]

9. HE had it coming, I'm sure.

[MemphisTiger]

10. I hope that's sarcasm

[Beelzebud]

13. I hope this whole bullshit thread is sarcasm.

[EstimatedProphet]

11. Of course he did. He was a man.

[bigscott]

16. wow

just wow. like Beelzebud said - if a MAN posted this about a WOMAN we would be drummed off DU. Jesus Christ - nothing like lumping all men into one category. I am a man WITHOUT a gun - don't blame me please!

[donsu]

20. a man wouldn't post this about a women because women don't

kill with guns every day, in every state, county and lrg. city in america.

men do

[Beelzebud]

25. You're so full of shit. Every county and every city, every day?

Get a fucking clue.

[MemphisTiger]

33. Are you high?

seriously

[EstimatedProphet]

52. For God's sake, see somebody about this already!

[EstimatedProphet]

50. Uh...sarcasm.

Actually, I had thought it was so obvious that I didn't use . Sorry for the confusion.

[michreject]

12. A little over the top with your bullshit

every day a MAN in practically every County of america kills someone with a GUN.

There's 83 countys in Michigan and 83 people aren't killed everyday. Not even 1/2, 1/4 or even an 1/8th. Not even 1%.

[Squatch]

14. Well, this MAN says GET BENT

[seabeyond]

57. GET BENT ??? i dont get it. am curious. ?? n/t

[Xenotime]

15. Give guns only to women. that would fix the problem.

[Touchdown]

17. If we get rid of all the men

...then who would you have to blame for your still infulfilled life?

[donsu]

23. I never said to get rid of men - don't be silly

nt

[Bucky]

28. Without any men, women would have to console themselves by eating peanut butter sandwiches.

Oh wait! Without men around, women can't even get their peanut butter jars open! Will the tragedies never cease?

[Clark2008]

35. We can open them, Bucky - we just want to make you guys

get up and do SOMETHING around the house, so we make up chores for you. It's good for your hearts.

[donsu]

43. lol

nt

[petronius]

60. Yeah, sure - next you're going to tell us that you actually

can remove spiders from the house, too, huh? I'm not buying it...

(Edit for non-functioning smiley.)

[Little Wing]

37. Shoot them off with all the guns that will be much cheaper

Guns are also effective opening car doors if you lock the keys inside. A warm barrel will also keep your toes toasty at night.

Is there anything a gun can't do?

[Sapere aude]

18. Are you serious? "men are unable to control themselves"

Sometimes I don't know if people are crazy or being sarcastic on these threads. Which are you?

[Bucky]

24. Obviously you're about to shoot the OP aren't you, you MAN, you!

[stirlingsliver]

19. The PERSON Was Sick

The person yesterday who killed all those people was obviously sick.

He was sick -- like the mother who drown her five children a few years ago in Texas.

Sick people -- both men and women -- do sick things.

It's not just a male thing.

[donsu]

26. killing people with guns IS a male thing

nt

[stirlingsliver]

49. Then Killing By Fire and Water Must Be a Female Thing

Patricia Kirby set a fire that killed 4 people.

Andrea Yates drown five of her own children.

Oh, and then there's Brenda Spencer. She came close to taking 11 lives when she shot her new semi-automatic .22 rifle into a school yard. At the time, she reportedly said that she'd started shooting for the fun of it, because she didn't like Mondays. "Mondays always get me down." She had done it to cheer herself up. She only killed two people -- the school janitor and the principal -- both of whom shielded the children that Brenda was trying to shoot (in order to "cheer herself up). Eight kids were wounded.

And of course you know about Sylvia Seegrist. She only killed three people and wounded eight. In 1985, Sylvia stared shooting at a mall near Philadelphia. She started shooting a random people. Including a two-year child. Who died.

Then there's Laurie Wasserman Dann. In 1988, Laurie set out to shoot and kill as many people as possible. During her deadly advance, she first drove to several homes where she had worked to deliver food laced with arsenic. She left her packages on the front porches and continued with her fatal errands. The next two stops were to start fires before she drove to Hubbard Woods Elementary School in Winnetka, Ill. Armed with a .357 Magnum, she entered the school, shot and missed a boy, and then went into a classroom. She started shooting, hitting six of the kids and killing her sole victim, an 8-year-old boy. No one tried to stop her as she left, got into her car, and drove to yet another location. Then she left her car and knocked on the door of a house where she was clearly a stranger. They said later that Dann had offered a story that she had been raped and had shot her rapist. They could see she was unstable, and one member of the family attempted to apprehend her as she forced her way inside. She shot and wounded him, then went to a room on the second floor. Locking herself in, she waited.

You're right, though, killing people with guns must be a male thing.

[Egnever]

21. What a dumb fuck post

Another woman with irrational PMS taking out her dementia on all men everywhere.

Hope that sounds to your ears similar to how your dumb ass post sounds to mine.

Heres another another dumfuck woman letting her mouth run and then expecting her man to put himself in harms way to protect her from the consequences of her mouth.

That better?

The guy was a sick twisted bastard to be sure, blaming men is just friggin stupid though.

[donsu]

29. dumb fuck post back at you - women in PMS don't kill people

well, it ain't aliens with guns doing the killing is it? it's men.

[Beelzebud]

31. He was just saying something that sounded as full of shit as you do.

[Egnever]

58. please.. you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Of the 62 female serial killers in Eric Hickey's study for Serial Murderers and Their Victims, they accounted for between 400 and 600 victims.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/women/wom...

Homicide Type by Gender, 1976-2004
Victims Offenders
Male Female Male Female
All homicides 76.5% 23.5% 88.7% 11.3%
Victim/offender relationship
Intimate 36.5% 63.5% 65.3% 34.7%
Family 51.7% 48.3% 70.6% 29.4%
Infanticide 54.5% 45.5% 61.8% 38.2%
Eldercide 58.3% 41.7% 85.3% 14.7%
Circumstances
Felony murder 78.2% 21.8% 93.3% 6.7%
Sex related 18.8% 81.2% 93.6% 6.4%
Drug related 90.1% 9.9% 95.6% 4.4%
Gang related 94.6% 5.4% 98.3% 1.7%
Argument 77.9% 22.1% 85.5% 14.5%
Workplace 78.3% 21.7% 91.1% 8.9%
Weapon
Gun homicide 82.7% 17.3% 91.2% 8.8%
Arson 56.3% 43.7% 79.1% 20.9%
Poison 55.6% 44.4% 63.3% 36.7%
Multiple victims or offenders
Multiple victims 63.1% 36.9% 93.5% 6.5%

Multiple offenders 85

According to this chart from the Burro of justice http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/gender.htm 23% of all homicides are committed by women.

And just to drive the pms comment home. From the same source
Intimate 5.3 % 30.1 %
Spouse 3.2 18.4
Ex-spouse 0.2 1.4
Boyfriend/Girlfriend 1.9 10.3
Women seem to snap on their loved ones at an amazingly more prevalent rate. If that ain't pms well you explain it to me what causes that.

Take your man bashing somewhere else please its offensive and ignorant besides.

[Bucky]

22. As a man, let me just say this....

when you're finished chewing on them, please give me my balls back. I have to return to work now.

Oh, and not to nit pick, but Cho was killing people without guns. If you don't hold Cho against me, I won't hold Lizzie Borden, Andrea Yates, and Ma Barker against you.

What a monumentally frivolous post.

[Sapere aude]

30. Google 'women murders'. It's enlightening.

[Bucky]

Nicole Beecroft Murders Her Newborn Child, Stabbing Her 135 Times

Nicole Beecroft Murders Her Newborn Child, Stabbing Her 135 Times
Nope, no gun there.

[aikoaiko]

27. Only the adult students who can legally carry a gun anywhere should be able to...

...carry one to class.

[donsu]

34. and 21 yr. old men are so stable and mature especially after

drinking.

what with drinking being a big problem on campus.

and 21 yr. old men in lust/love are really stable and mature and wouldn't ever think of using a gun. sure.

[aikoaiko]

54. In general, those who go throught the permit process to carry concealed take this

very seriously and don't commit crimes with their concealed firearm.

If adults are caught drinking with a gun and permit, they will lose their permit and firearm. Its a big incentive to not do so.

[Beelzebud]

32. Seriously, why is this idiotic thread not locked? If it were about women it would be.

[ThomCat]

38. Because the OP has a valid point.

Gun culture is predominantly male. The cultural training to solve problems with violence is predominantly male.

Seems kind of obvious to me.

[Beelzebud]

42. Yeah you're right. It's totally valid to say all men have no self control.

Oh fuck me. I'm done with this piece of shit website. Every fucking issue that comes up turns into another god damned circular firing squad.

I'm sick of it.

Keep running off friends and supporters. Who needs community when it's more fun to tear each other down.

[ThomCat]

46. Logic 101

Just because "almost all shooters are men" does not mean "almost all men are shooters."

We can discuss the one without implying the other.

[EstimatedProphet]

59. No, it's far from obvious

Here's how it actually works:

300 million people in the US
150 million men, 150 million women (numbers are estimates)
approx. 10,000 gun-related deaths
Even if 90% (9,000) of those deaths were by men, that would still only be 0.006%.

I just don't think it is realistic to say that men are thie problem when less than 1/100 OF A PERCENT OF THE POPULATION ARE AT FAULT.

[donsu]

40. because this thread is the truth and women know it

nt

[Touchdown]

Statements like this make me VERY happy that I'm gay.

Honestly, I don't know how any of you straight guys put up with this hateful shit.

[leftofthedial]

36. damned men

damned gun-toting, willie-waving men

[maxsolomon]

41. i suggested as much yesterday on another thread

i'd feel much more secure if i knew the only people armed were women.

this kid was suffering, and rather than internalize it, he externalized it. why? why do men do that almost exclusively?

why don't women?

[Annces]

44. Your post does nothing to help anything

It is the most simplistic of logic and just a generalized attack on men.

[Beelzebud]

45. Apparetnly it's 100% acceptable here. All Men are murderers. We just all haven't done it yet.

[ThomCat]

48. Just a little insecure and sensitive, are we?

[Beelzebud]

53. A lot of people were sensitive about a fucking Candy Bar ad.

Sorry. Forgive me for not going along with the little man-hating fest.

[genie_weenie]

47. The key missing word is KOREAN

Everyone knows that the race of man which is evil comes from ASIA. This was proved beyond a doubt in 1937 Nanking and had further proofs during Vietnam which is why our patriotic God-Filled White Men had to kill so many women and children over there...

[Selatius]

51. Women HAVE made the news shooting people.

http://english.people.com.cn/english/200103/08/eng20010...

If you want to bring it down into men vs. women dichotomy, then women aren't clean of blood on their hands either.

[ileus]

55. May all men die...

[valerief]

56. It's mostly male teachers that molest schoolchildren but you wouldn't

know that from watching teevee. You'd think it was all women.

[RestoreGore]

61. It's an extension of their penis?

That's what I think it is for some.

[piedmont]

62. Ban men!

Ban guns!
Ban knives!
Ban it all!

[LaurenG]

63. Locking

Due to the subject matter and differing opinions this thread has become a flame fest.

Ohioblues
DU moderator