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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:28 PM
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Between 2000~2007, price of health insurance for a family of 4 DOUBLED!!
Heard this on "This American Life" just now.

Basically that and that alone can account for MOST of our economic woes as a nation.

Double. That's 100%. In 7 years.

It broke us all and made us uncompetitive.

BUT YOU WILL NEVER EVER HEAR THAT STATISTIC CITED BY THE CORPORATE MEDIA.

And yet it is so simple. It should be drummed in every single day. Like the proverbial missing white girl, it should be announced every single day.

It is killing this nation.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:30 PM
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1. It doubled for 2 person families as well
How most people handle the situation of increasing premiums is we raise deductibles and decrease coverage to 70/30. Then we don't get tests our doctors recommend. :(
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:33 PM
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2. It doubled for single people, too.
I don't know why these soaring costs aren't addressed. No one ever mentions it.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 01:37 PM
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19. It nearly tripled for me.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:35 PM
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3. nothing can stop them now
we'll all be slaves in a few years--pretty close to it now!

Thanks, congress and leadership for giving in to big business and abandoning the people. At least we know where we stand.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:36 PM
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4. And it will get higher and higher...
...once people are legally-required to buy private insurance. Just like, once the bankruptcy bill became law, credit-card interest rates skyrocketed.

When there's no legal way out, you have a captive market. When you have a captive market...predatory capitalism goes right to work, doing what it does best. :-(

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:39 PM
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6. Yes, I am in Mass and I can tell you that is right.
If everyone is forced to get insurance, they will simply offer "insurance" that is so pathetic that it is worthless. The poor people will get it because they can afford nothing else, and they will remain completely underinsured, undertreated 2nd class citizens.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:37 PM
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5. Our health insurance premium for a family of two
went from $300 a month to $800 a month just since 2004.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:41 PM
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7. Unbelievable!!
My friend's insurance double the second he hit 50.
It is illegal here, but they did it anyway.
That's what my friend told me anyway.
He pays $17,000 per year for a family of 4.
Fucking self-employed is the problem. They want us all to be slaves.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 01:23 PM
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18. My husband is a retired marine engineer and I am self-employed,
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 01:25 PM by Blue_In_AK
but I'm not working much these days. This premium is 25% of his fixed pension, before the taxes are taken out. We go on Medicare in a couple of years, assuming it's still around, so we'll probably drop the pension insurance then and try to find something less expensive for the supplememtal. It's just crazy the amount of money we've paid into this, and neither of us is ever sick. The only good thing about it is that (allegedly) if anything catastrophic happens to either of us, we would only be personally responsible for the first $5,000 and the insurance would pick up the rest. I don't want to be in a position to see if that's true, though.

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:42 PM
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8. Lots of things have doubled for me since 2000
Not only health insurance, but the price of a gallon of gas more than doubled where I live since 2000. The cost of a bus fare on a public bus has doubled. The cost of my monthly phone bill has more than doubled (and I barely ever use a telephone). The cost of a tin of ground coffee has doubled.

America is getting really expensive for me. Have salaries doubled for the average working person during that time frame?
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:46 PM
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10. My price per unit has halved in the last 10 years.
Very, very hard.

I work constantly to stay behind. LOL.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:43 PM
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9. And some people wonder why we are disappointed and mad?
I recall working my fingers to the bone and exhausting myself to get Obama elected. I remember the Obama who promised he would go to work on day 1 for single payer. Does anybody remember June 2008?
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:47 PM
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12. I am more than disappointed. I give up.
What's the point?

I am leaving. Maybe when I come back it will be fixed. If I come back.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:49 PM
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13. Don't leave DU
It's because of people like you I stay. Or follow me to my board if you're fed up.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:50 PM
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14. I'll stay on DU.
I'm leaving US.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:47 PM
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11. Between 2000 and 2007, you say?
And just who was in charge in Washington in that time frame?

Hint: It starts with (R) and ends with :puke:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:53 PM
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15. That's because the corporate media have a conflict of interest; making their blood money by selling
commercials to those same "health" insurance rackets, so they treat the illogical, dysfunctional idea that people or corporations having nothing to do with actual health care should have a right to profit by leeching precious dollars away from that noble enterprise.

To the corporate media; mandated purchasing from for profit "health" insurance racketeers is the "centrist" "moderate" position, because the corporate media are complicit in the racket.

Thanks for the thread, Bonobo.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 01:04 PM
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16. Very good point, Uncle Joe! nt
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 01:17 PM
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17. Can anyone find a link for these figures? I'd like to share them with non-believers. n/t
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 02:22 PM
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21. Here's some stuff:
http://democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/record.cfm?id=318508

Americans Paid a Significant Hidden Tax. In 2005, for the first time, Dr. Kenneth Thorpe measured the impact on health insurance premiums of care for the uninsured, finding that family health insurance premiums were $922 higher due to this cost shift. A recent study updated Dr. Thorpe’s work, finding that in 2009, premiums for family coverage are a national average of $1,100 higher than they would otherwise be – the financial impact of the uninsured on health insurance premiums rose by 19 percent in just four years.


Premiums Doubled. Over the past 9 years, premiums for employer-sponsored health insurance have more than doubled, a growth rate six times faster than cumulative wage increases.


Administrative Costs Soared. Between 2000 and 2006, the amount of money health insurers spent on just administrative costs jumped from $264 per enrollee to $453 per enrollee, a 72 percent increase.


Health Care Costs Consumed Thirty-Three Percent of American Adults’ Income. In 2001, 21 percent of American adults spent 10 percent of their income on health expenses. Six years later, that rate increased by more than half, with 33 percent of Americans dedicating such a high portion of their income to health care bills.


Bankruptcies Due to Medical Costs Jumped Fifty Percent. In 2001, 46 percent all Americans filing for bankruptcy – 2 million people – pointed to medical costs as a reason for their filing. Under a conservative definition of medical bankruptcy, 62 percent of all bankruptcies in 2007 were due to medical costs. Using detailed data, researchers found that the rate of medical bankruptcy increased by 50 percent between 2001 and 2007.


Twenty-Eight Percent of Americans Acquired Medical Debt. A recent study reported that 49 million people, or 28 percent of the population, said they were paying off medical debt in 2007, up from 21 percent in 2005. Of those, one-quarter (24 percent) were carrying $4,000 or more in debt and 12 percent had $8,000 or more.


Cost of Prescription Drugs Jumped Dramatically. Total spending on prescription drugs jumped from $120.6 billion in 2000 to $216.7 billion in 2006. Average retail prescription prices rose by 6.9 percent each year from 1997 to 2007, jumping from $35.72 to $69.91, more than two and a half times the annual inflation rate over the same period.


Fewer Firms Now Offer Coverage. The percentage of non-elderly individuals with employment-based health benefits decreased from 68.4 percent in 2000 to 62.2 percent in 2007. Americans employed by small businesses fared worse over the same period, as the percentage of small businesses offering health insurance coverage to their employees dropped from 68 percent to 59 percent.


Total Health Spending Increased Fifty-Five Percent. Between 2000 and 2007, the United States’ per person spending on health care jumped from $4,789 to $7,421, an increase of 55 percent in just seven years. Over the same period, health care costs consumed an increasing share of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP), rising from 13.8 percent to 16.2 percent. Growth in health expenditures substantially exceeded growth in the GDP between 2000 and 2007; the GDP grew by five percent, while national health expenditures grew by 7.5 percent.


America Lost Economic Value Due to the Uninsured. In 2003, the Institute of Medicine estimated the U.S. lost between $65 billion and $130 billion due to the poorer health and shorter lives of the uninsured. A more recent study estimate that the U.S. economy will lose between $124 billion and $248 billion this year due to the “uninsured Americans who live shorter lives and have poorer health.”


WHO PROFITED FROM REPUBLICAN RULE?

Insurance Companies and CEOs Racked Up High Profits and Salaries. In 2000, the 10 largest publicly traded health insurance companies had profits of $2.4 billion.By 2007, profits at those firms had jumped to $12.9 billion, a 428% increase.In 2007, CEO salaries at these firms were $118.6 million, or $11.9 million each.


Prescription Drug Companies’ Profits Soared. In 2007, prescription drug companies had a profit margin of 15.8%.The same year, profit margins at all Fortune 500 firms were 5.7%.


WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO HEALTH CARE IF WE DO NOTHING?

People Getting Health Care Through Their Jobs Will Plummet. A report from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Urban Institute found that in the next ten years, “(I)n every state, the share of population getting health care through their job would fall; in more than half the states, the decline would be greater than 10%.”


State Spending on Medicaid, CHIP Will Rise. A report from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Urban Institute found that in the next ten years, “(E)very state’s spending for Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) would rise by more than 75%.”


Uncompensated Care Will Double. A report from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Urban Institute found that in the next ten years, “(I)n 45 states, the amount of uncompensated care in the health system would more than double.”


Premiums Will Nearly Double. A recent study estimates that by 2016, the average cost of family employer-sponsored health insurance will top $24,000, an 83 percent increase over 2008 premium levels.


In Over Half the States, Number of Uninsured Will Grow by 30 Percent. A report from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Urban Institute found that in the next ten years, “(I)n 29 states, the number of those without insurance would grow by more than 30%.”


American Businesses Will Spending on Health Care Will Double. A report from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Urban Institute found that in the next ten years, “(N)ationally, spending by American businesses for their workers’ health care would double.”


Individuals and Families Could Spend Up to 68 Percent More on Health Care. A report from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Urban Institute found that in the next ten years, “(I)ndividual and family spending on health care would jump by 46% to 68%.”
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 03:40 PM
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23. Thanks so much for this. It helps me out greatly! n/t
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RT Atlanta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 01:39 PM
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20. My fucking salary didnt double
this continued extortion by for-PROFIT health insurance companies is the problem (not fucking tort reform, or anything else the pukes may want their ignorant constituency to believe)
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 02:24 PM
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22. Mine is going up 20%.
My pay isn't going up 20%. The only way to compensate for that is to bill 20% more hours, just to stay even with where I am right now.

:grr:

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