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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:59 PM
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Who stole more than $200,000 at Walmart?
Walmart shoppers pay in cash lots and lots of cash, records of a daring $200,000-plus heist show.

And the thief walked right out the front door with the money, stopping only momentarily to fool a front-of-the-store greeter.

No standard crime, Orange County Sheriff's Office reports describe a classic inside job when a man dressed as a Walmart supervisor emptied the safe at Walmart's Turkey Lake Road store.

Store cameras followed him from the moment he parked until he left the store, pushing a shopping cart holding boxes packed with cash. Though it happened July 11, the agency waited until Friday to seek the public's help after exhausting conventional means to catch the thief.

"There's surveillance video of a lot of crime, but without the right audience seeing it to identify the suspect, it's just video," sheriff's Detective David Lindberg said. "That's why we want the public to look at it."

All the theft took was seven minutes, and the video provides a ticktock of the crime:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:06 PM
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1. I'm going to UnRec, because I don't want the guy to get caught. n/t
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obliviously Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:35 PM
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6. Procrime!
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:25 AM
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9. I countered your unrec because in the order of bad acts
Thievery comes immediately behind Murder, Molestation, and Rape, and just before Vandalism.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:07 PM
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2. Wonderful.
Best smile I've had all day.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:08 PM
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3. Did he give someone at Wallmart a three page letter first?
Saying the Wallmart economy would fail and there would be a run on the Wallmart treasury. Then saying that he needed the money for the good of the Wallmart system?
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:12 PM
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5. I like it, promise to buy things from Wal Mart. Ah huh.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:31 AM
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19. +1
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:10 PM
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4. Don't know where he got the key, but...
the two little old ladies who collect the cash from the registers at our local WalMart could easily be pushed down, and the huge pile-o-money absconded with. 10:00PM-ish or so. And what with Halloween coming up... :shrug:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:08 AM
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7. "Walmart shoppers pay in cash." Or empty beer cans. nt
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:09 AM
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8. Im crying for them, on the inside
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:31 AM
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10. Thievery is NEVER to be applauded.
Never. The only people worse than thieves are rapists, child molesters, and murderers. That DU'ers are applauding this loser is disheartening to say the least.

It shows the level of intellect around here that DU'ers would think someone who would steal from Wal-Mart would steal ONLY from Wal-Mart. This asshole is probably partly responsible for your high homeowners insurance policies, as well as your auto insurance policies.

Go ahead and applaud a thief, DU'ers, and stay classy.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:34 AM
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12. 200,000 doesn't even come close to what the banksters steal from us
every day.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 01:25 AM
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15. Banksters=Walmart? Thievery=thievery.
Applaud thieves. Go ahead. Applaud them until your hands blister. They'll still be thieves, and you'll have sore hands.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 01:51 AM
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16. I'm not applauding theives but I won't get my panties in a twist
over this when there are bigger fish who get away scott free while living in the lap of luxury with implied consent from our government, our media, and, unfortunately, us - the victims.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:24 AM
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18. Bullshit.
Bigger fish to fry isn't an argument that should allow any thinking person to applaud thievery.

Crimes should be prosecuted when criminals are caught.

I would submit the wholly unacceptable notion that if, IF Bush could be prosecuted, he would be. We know where he is, we know what he's done, there is a minute by minute record of his performance and record as President of the United States.

IF it were possible to prosecute him, he would have been arrested already.

We can't prosecute someone because WE think he or she could be prosecuted.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:31 AM
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20. I. That is me. My ownself.
I am not applauding. And Bush's crimes are well documented, meanwhile we are led and lectured that we have to put the past behind and look forward towards hope and change.
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maglatinavi Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:22 AM
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32. put the past behind
BULL SHIT!!! :rofl: :rofl: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks:
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:49 AM
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23. WalMart is one of the most thieving corporations around.
The rip off customers, employees, manufacturers through monopoly control and abusive business practices.

Maybe some of this money will get spent in the community rather than used for dead peasant insurance policies, bribes for corrupt Chinese officials or lining the bank accounts of the "useless eater" Walton heirs who would spend it on oil speculation or other non-productive investments.

When a small-time thief steals from a big-time thief, the people who feel they or their communities have been screwed over by the big-time thief are going to cheer. That's human nature.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 03:57 AM
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27. Woah, someone actually gets it!
Fuckin a - Walmart is wayyyyy worse than any one-time heist. Amazing how people on this board stand up for Wal-mart - fucking WAL-MART!?! You'll never see me cry one tear for goddamn shithole fucking Wal-Mart no matter what horrible thing happens to that company from hell.
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:24 AM
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33. Here is a couple more Walmart thieves you can cheer about
Armored car guard shot dead at Lakewood Wal-Mart store

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/46744697.html
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:54 AM
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38. Now you're conflating grand theft..
with armed robbery and first degree murder.

These crimes are not the same in the eyes of the law, and you have no basis to draw a comparison here.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:42 AM
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37. Except for the exceptionally self-righteous.
Certain DUers would no doubt have helped string up Robinhood while extolling the virtues of protecting the wealth of the nobility. Oy.

Julie
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:21 AM
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45. This thief is no Robin Hood
There is nothing to cheer for here.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 04:32 AM
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29. Nice to meet you. Sheriff Of Nottingham!


Robin Hood is such the classic bad guy. ;)

Huzzah! :hi:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:40 AM
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21. 200,000 probably doesn't come close to the number of jobs walmart
has stolen from this country.

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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 03:05 AM
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25. Or how much their meager pay and half-assed benefits
cost the rest of us (which I don't begrudge, by the way) in taxes.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 04:10 AM
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28. exactly. i hate that fucking store. n/t
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 01:15 AM
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14. i have to agree
whatever one thinks of walmart, this guy is a thief. he is taking what does not belong to him. and other people will make up the loss.

i've arrested scores of thiefs in my day. not a very savory bunch
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:45 AM
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22. totally agree!
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 02:49 AM by shanti
walmart sucks, but thievery should never be condoned. it's getting pretty blatant too. there was a walmart in ceres, ca where a couple just walked out the door with a flat screen teevee. an attempt was made to stop them, but they peeled out and were gone.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32907401/ns/local_news-sacr... /

old story that seems to have flown in under the radar:

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/Th...

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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 03:54 AM
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26. Pfffft - Walmart rips us off way more than we do them - seen their profits recently?
They are the real criminals (and donate HEAVILY to Republicans to keep it that way) - but sure, go ahead and side with your corporate masters. :crazy:
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 04:56 AM
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31. People aren't really applauding the thievery as much as a settling of accounts, if you will.
Wal-Mart has literally stolen money from their employees.

This type of brazen robbery represents a balancing out to some people.

But I am not sure I totally agree with you about thievery always being bad.

Stealing money from an arms dealer might be good. Stealing money from a drug dealer might be good.

I don't think it's an absolute.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:43 AM
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34. Actually the thief would indeed probably only steal from WalMart
Or other such large corporations. Thieves have their own individual MO. Somebody who pulls off this kind of heist is unlikely to do a purse snatch, car snatch or even a home break in. This is a person who wants the big score, wants to figure out how to do it and get away clean. It's an intellectual challenge.

Frankly, I feel no sympathy for Wal Mart, given that they've been ripping off customers, employees, small businesses and entire communities for decades now.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:37 AM
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36. Go tell that to the Wall Street bankers, the Health Insurance companies and their
enablers. On a scale of 1-10 in stealing, this is a petty thief.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:36 AM
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13. K & BiiiiiiigR!
Guess there really is no honor among thieves.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:06 AM
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17. The robber should've gone to business school and become an investment banker. Fuck over people.
And make millions in the process. A whole lot more than 200 grand.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:50 AM
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24. It amazes me, a story is posted without comment, and some here have to lecture us on ideological
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 02:50 AM by DainBramaged
purity .I just do not get it. And like a few others said, we were robbed for trillions by men in suits, but we're lectured because this guy beat Walmart.

I just do not get how bent we are becoming.
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 04:43 AM
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30. I wouldn't trust anyone
who would cheer on a thief, no matter who the victim is.

Our house has been burglarized. Stealing is not funny or cute or anything other than despicable.
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:29 AM
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35. After Hurricane Wilma destroyed my apartment a few years back....
Looters stole almost every one of my positions.

So I have no love for thieves.

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Trekologer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:01 AM
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39. A lot of things went wrong in this case, it seems
In a previous life I was a bookkeeper in a retail store. I'd like to hope that our procedures would have prevented this.

So a guy walks in with a "supervisor" name badge that no one recognizes and is provided access to the cash office. If the person responsible for the cash office doesn't recognize the supervisor, they should call the someone in the store's management to verify the credentials.

Next the guy has his own key and the safe combination. This suggests it was an inside job. Time to find who's keys are missing. Does every store have the same locks and safe combinations? If so that's really bad.

$200k was just sitting in the safe? Do they not have a drop safe? After a fraction of that was turned in, we would drop it into the drop safe. Once in the drop safe, it can only be accessed by the armored car service because they have the key and the store does not. And even if the armored car agent has the key they aren't provided access unless their ID matches the list of authorized persons (the armored car service provides this list, including exact photocopies of each ID card).

As for Walmat, its no skin off their back; they surely have insurance to cover this. A bunch of people are probably about to get fired though.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:11 AM
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41. Wal-Mart may be different
While I am in full agreement with most of your post, especially the part of no one in the office recognizing the person (unless he sported a title from outside the store--like someone from Bentonville). As far as cash-on-hand, yeah, it could've been a just day's worth of money. And management may well have combo/keys to safe, not all that unusual.

Julie
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:59 AM
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40. Trick question.
The board and shareholders have all stolen much more than US$200,000 from us.

Don't need surveillance cameras to see the big thefts.
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:24 AM
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42. They steal more from us every hour by forcing employees onto medicaid...
Unrec
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:29 AM
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43. Is it a bigger crime to steal $200,000 from a Walmart
or $2000 from a mom and pop liquor store?

Who gets hurt worse?
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:15 AM
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44. It was me.
Sorry. :P
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:21 AM
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46. Did you guys see what I was wearing? I can't believe I left the house in that
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:36 AM
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47. yeah, it's easy to do, especially for those who
are former or current employees that know the holes in Walmart security and procedure...back in my grad school days a friend of a friend stole about $50,000 of merchandise just by working the returns counter...
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 10:32 AM
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48. WalMart, fucking the public, small town America and the employees since 1989
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:30 PM
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49. When I first saw the headline
"Who stole more than $200,000 at Walmart?" my immediate thought was that the answer was one of the Walton family. But then I realised they probably walk away with that kind of money every hour
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:37 PM
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50. In this age of debit cards and other electronic transactions....
... I am flat shocked that there was $200,000 in the safe in the first place.

How long do they wait to deposit their cash, months? I seriously find it hard to believe that a store would do $100,000 of business in cash in one month, let alone double that. I might be wrong, but it still seems like a hell of a lot.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 10:24 PM
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51. I'll go back to the early 80's and our video store
We'd rack up $60-80,000 on an average Saturday in VCR, camera and portable VCR and projection TV sales, and a 2 hour tape sold for $14, $12 a night for porn rentals, and back then it was almost entirely cash. Run 2500 people through a store like Walmart in 12 hours at $100 a transaction and what do you get?
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