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jeffbr Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:30 PM
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Fox’s Volley With Obama Intensifying (NYT)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/business/media/12fox.html

Fox’s Volley With Obama Intensifying
By BRIAN STELTER

Attacking the news media is a time-honored White House tactic but to an unusual degree, the Obama administration has narrowed its sights to one specific organization, the Fox News Channel, calling it, in essence, part of the political opposition. “We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent,” said Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, in a telephone interview on Sunday. “As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”

...The perception of Fox News as an opposition party has also affected its news correspondents, including Major Garrett, its chief White House correspondent, who Ms. Dunn says is a fair reporter. Mr. Garrett and other Fox correspondents have been directed by their bosses not to appear on the channel’s most opinionated programs. Still, Paul Rittenberg, who oversees ad sales for Fox, said the channel existed in a climate where viewers choose cable news channels based on affinity. His channel, he said, stresses in its pitch to advertisers that “people who watch Fox News believe it’s the home team.” To many Democrats, of course, the “home team” is conservative, a view only compounded by Fox’s at times skeptical coverage of Mr. Obama this year. “I’ve got one television station that is entirely devoted to attacking my administration,” he said in June, though he did not mention Fox by name. He added, “You’d be hard pressed if you watched the entire day to find a positive story about me on that front.”

The White House has limited administration members’ appearances on the network in recent weeks. In mid-September, when the White House booked Mr. Obama on a round robin of Sunday morning talk shows, it skipped Fox and called it an “ideological outlet,” leading the “Fox News Sunday” anchor Chris Wallace to appear on Bill O’Reilly’s prime-time show and call the administration “the biggest bunch of crybabies I have dealt with in my 30 years in Washington.” Ms. Dunn called that remark juvenile and stressed that administration officials would still talk to Fox, and that Mr. Obama was likely to be interviewed on the network in the future. But, she added, “we’re not going to legitimize them as a news organization.”

...Fox has made the channel’s tensions with the White House a story. In August, the network’s top-rated host, Mr. O’Reilly, dispatched one of his opinion program’s producers to ask why the administration seemed “so thin-skinned” at a White House briefing. The deputy press secretary disagreed, and said that Mr. O’Reilly had interviewed Mr. Obama during his candidacy last year. The administration’s aggressive stance suggests that it does not view Fox’s audience as one that can be persuaded. During the presidential campaign, Ms. Dunn said, it booked campaign representatives on Fox to try to reach undecided voters, but by mid-October, the campaign had mostly withdrawn them from the channel’s programs. “It was beyond diminishing returns,” she said. “It was no returns.”


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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:32 PM
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1. About damn time to start playing hardball with the Faux Nothing Channel
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:35 PM
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2. It's not just Obama.
It's anything vaguely progressive that is hated on Fox News. Climate change, regulation, banking reforms, anything non-free market, you name it.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:48 PM
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5. Free market is a label that does not apply to monopoly capitalism.
With joint lobbying to set policies, and agreements between corporations on what they talk about and how they operate, it is not free market capitalism. It is a central controlled market system more like a feudal system.

Free market is part of the spin that has been fed to people for years.

Your point is however correct in that Fox has a one sided argument for everything even if they need to lie or distort to present the argument.
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:42 PM
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3. Lou Dobbs is next
From the article:

The business channel is also keen on another administration critic, Lou Dobbs, who met for dinner with Mr. Ailes last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the meeting.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:58 PM
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7. I hope they take him. Him and his xenophobic crap - he can rant on daily over there and that will
help the GOP continue to alienate Hispanics. I hope they go for it! The teabagger channel of white, disgruntled, RW assholes sounds like a great plan for continuing the Republicans as a minority party long into the future.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:17 AM
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14. EXCELLENT. Consequences. There have to be CONSEQUENCES for bad behavior.
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 12:22 AM by calimary
Otherwise there's no inducement or motivation to adjust that behavior. The message should very much indeed go out, across the land. Not gonna give us a fair shake? Then suffer the consequences. Because there's a price to pay for doing that. Pox Noise has never had to pay for anything it's done. And it IS a propaganda arm of the RNC/GOP. Beyond ANY doubt. There should be a high price to pay for taking that shameless, blatant attack mode. And frankly, I don't give a crap how "fair" major garrett is considered to be. He should have to pay for it too. Being part of Pox Noise should be like having to bear a scarlet letter of shame. Maybe sometimes Pox Noise will have to do its reporting from outside the building. Like maybe someday when the first good rain of the season begins? CONSEQUENCES. Bad behavior must NOT be rewarded. It must be punished. Go ahead and be oppositional all you want. Just know that kind of behavior carries a price tag. A BIG one. Perhaps if major garrett wants that precious almighty access back again and most-favored-network status, he might consider finding a reporters' job at a different network. There should be a price to pay for "coverage" this slanted, this blatant, this baldly adversarial and downright hostile. These are the people who stirred up that hyena weekend on September 12th and was all over it like a cheap suit. They deserve any mercy at all???????

And dobbs - that goes for YOU, TOO! Watch yer ass. You guys can't expect a level playing field when you've already fucked with it and warped it all to hell.

Consider whose side you're on, assholes, and what kind of penalties come with being on the WRONG side.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 01:19 AM
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16. Good. Ghettoize all the facist shitheads
Dump 'em all on one channel so the sane people of America can ignore them all much easier.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 04:16 PM
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22. Let them have Dobbs. But an important question remains re:Dobbs
is he being lured away or is he desperately trying to find a new home since CNN has NO intention of renewing his contract? Hmm.....
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:44 PM
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4. FOX is anitnews
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:54 PM
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6. “we’re not going to legitimize them as a news organization.”
Touché! :rofl:

:applause:
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:59 PM
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8. and President Obama WON'T go on their Sunday morning show
no matter how much Chris Wallace whines about it either! :rofl:
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:00 PM
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9. Fox is forced on people.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:00 PM
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10. thank god this white house sees the enemy for who they are....fuck faux
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:03 PM
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11. I want Chip Reid (CBS) to move on over to Faux too. It would be
nice to have them all cornered in one spot.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:04 PM
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12. "Fox News" is a violation of the Truth in Advertising law n/t
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:29 PM
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13. What's the connection between this "war" on a right-wing ideological news outlet
and NBC's war on the 'gay left-wing fringe.'

No connection at all?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:45 AM
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15. Since FOX went to court defending their right to lie, Their press credentials should be pulled.
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 03:42 AM
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17. Except that they won that case. It's pathetic.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:13 PM
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23. That's my point. They are allowed to lie, therefore restrict their access to any
government institution.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 03:57 AM
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18. This is tricky business
Personally, I think it's high time the FCC took a good look at Fox's violation of the Public Trust. However, if they were to do that, Fox would claim the Obama administration is abusing its power by targeting them.

The fact remains that Fox News is absolutely violating the Public Trust.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 04:36 AM
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19. Nary a mention of the FACT that Fox intentionally and repeatedly lies
Hmmm.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:05 PM
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20. "Fox’s at times skeptical coverage of Mr. Obama"
LOL.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 04:03 PM
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21. "Major Garrett, its chief White House correspondent, who Ms. Dunn says is a fair reporter. "
Yeah, Major Garrett is exceedingly "fair and balanced" LOL
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:20 PM
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24. Every sane person
and their dog knows Fox News is not a legitimate news organization. It's good that they are constantly called out on this
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demi moore Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:12 PM
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25. O'Reilly calls whitehouse stance with fox news a "jihad"
i was listening to his radio show and actually called it a jihad! hope someone makes a big deal out of it
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