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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:29 PM
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As I recall the US had a pretty clear cut decisive victory over the Taliban
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 04:30 PM by The_Casual_Observer
8 years ago. Drove them out, killed them, installed a new government, paved roads, burned burkas, opened schools for girls.

I don't recall that we ever left. Hasn't there been an ever increasing number of troops there?

What are we going to do there that hasn't already been done?

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:32 PM
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1. One thing you are missing...
bush pulled troops from Afghanistan to attack Iraq. I don't know the exact numbers.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:39 PM
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3. We "crushed" the Taliban with about 10,000 in combined forces
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 04:47 PM by kenny blankenship
What Bush did was to shift focus to Iraq more than draw down troops. In 2002, 10,000 coalition troops were enough to take the country and rout the the Taliban. Now seven years later 50,000 --oops excuse me! 64,000 coalition troops-- aren't enough to hold on.

Should tell you something.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:59 PM
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4. There are many more times what was necessary to conquer the place there
right now, today.We have maintained a standing army there from day one.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:36 PM
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2. Not possible to drive them out, imo.
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 04:39 PM by elleng
They're part of the culture, continue to grow. And tne 'new government' isn't worth much, it appears.
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:03 PM
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5. we did that
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 05:04 PM by Old Codger
Then pulled most of troops out and sent them to Iraq and proceeded to pretty much ignore Afghanistan they started growing poppies again and the Taliban, who had pretty much eradicated that part of the economy decided that the money was pretty good so they got into it also and now we are fighting the re-constituted Taliban thanks to poppy money, and *'s idiocy.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:07 PM
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6. They never stopped growing poppies, we never left.
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 05:21 PM by The_Casual_Observer
We never pulled out most of the troops, it's a fiction much like the one about we could have won Vietnam had we tried harder. There has been an escalation of troops in Afghanistan since 2004.
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:40 PM
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7. We easily did it once; we can easily do it again - Is that what you're implying?
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:45 PM
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8. We bombed weddings and killed massive numbers of women and children
We are just not liked over there. We are an occupying force and the people want us gone. Resistance is building every single day we remain there.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:53 PM
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9. Like roaches
they skittered across the border to Pakistan, where we won't attack. You can't wipe out the Taliban without leveling the tribal areas of Northwest Pakistan, and since we won't do that, we should just pull out.

We can lob a few bombs into Kabul if we don't like what they're doing a few years from now.
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