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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:08 PM
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Rockefeller just said that the breaking news is that the Mayo clinic
now support a public option. Says it's great news.

He's on the Ed show now.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:09 PM
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1. good news
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:10 PM
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2. You mean there still may be hope???
:bounce:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:12 PM
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4. Yep he sure seems hopeful
Ron Wyden just said the same thing.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:11 PM
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3. Will that move any votes our way?
That should solidify Klobuchar, who was squishy on the public option.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:14 PM
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5. Ok what does I hear? The status quo breaking apart, that is what I hear
squeeek....

Hand me the WD-40 needs more oil.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:16 PM
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6. Well, let's see...
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 05:17 PM by KansDem
That puts the Mayo Clinic on the side of a significant majority of Americans, the unions, some corporations, 2/3 of the doctors, and most of the Dems.

But the "other side" still has the insurance-industry CEOs and the media.

Hmmmmm, I wonder which side will prevail...

edited to change preposition...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:16 PM
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7. That's really strong support in terms of INFLUENCING the public.
Good score.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:18 PM
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8. I thought that they always supported it.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:19 PM
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9. Mayo Clinic are great, great people.
It brought tears to my eyes, typing that.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:20 PM
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10. So...what's that mean?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:23 PM
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13. Check #5
That's my take as well - that's a serious fissure for the status quo. The Mayo Clinic is HUGE!!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:27 PM
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16. Help me with some WD -40, we need to get this unstuck
for some history and contest, it took something similar for the first Canadian province... to go there.

:-)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:45 PM
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18. Good point
Here's a decent read on the Canadian system in terms of history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada
<snip>
During the Great Depression calls for a public health system were widespread. Doctors who had long feared such an idea reconsidered hoping a government system could provide some stability as the depression had badly affected the medical community. However, governments had little money to enact the idea. In 1935, the United Farmers of Alberta passed a bill creating a provincial insurance program, but they lost office later that year and the Social Credit Party scrapped the plan due to the financial situation in the province. The next year a health insurance bill passed in British Columbia, but its implementation was halted over objections from doctors.
The beginning of coverage

It was not until 1946 that the first Canadian province introduced near universal health coverage. Saskatchewan had long suffered a shortage of doctors, leading to the creation of municipal doctor programs in the early twentieth century in which a town would subsidize a doctor to practice there. Soon after, groups of communities joined to open union hospitals under a similar model. There had thus been a long history of government involvement in Saskatchewan health care, and a significant section of it was already controlled and paid for by the government. In 1946, Tommy Douglas' Co-operative Commonwealth Federation government in Saskatchewan passed the Saskatchewan Hospitalization Act, which guaranteed free hospital care for much of the population. Douglas had hoped to provide universal health care, but the province did not have the money.

In 1950, Alberta created a program similar to Saskatchewan's. Alberta, however, created Medical Services (Alberta) Incorporated (MS(A)I) in 1948 to provide prepaid health services. This scheme eventually provided medical coverage to over 90% of the population.<21>

In 1957, the federal government passed the Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act to fund 50% of the cost of such programs for any provincial government that adopted them. The HIDS Act outlined five conditions: public administration, comprehensiveness, universality, portability, and accessibility. These remain the pillars of the Canada Health Act.

By 1961, all ten provinces had agreed to start HIDS Act programs. In Saskatchewan, the act meant that half of their current program would now be paid for by the federal government. Premier Woodrow Lloyd decided to use this freed money to extend the health coverage to also include physicians. Despite the sharp disagreement of the Saskatchewan College of Physicians and Surgeons, Lloyd introduced the law in 1962 after defeating the Saskatchewan Doctors' Strike in July.
Medical Care Act

The Saskatchewan program proved a success and the federal government of Lester B. Pearson, pressured by the New Democratic Party (NDP) who held the balance of power, introduced the Medical Care Act in 1966 that extended the HIDS Act cost-sharing to allow each province to establish a universal health care plan. It also set up the Medicare system. In 1984, the Canada Health Act was passed, which prohibited user fees and extra billing by doctors. In 1999, the prime minister and most premiers reaffirmed in the Social Union Framework Agreement that they are committed to health care that has "comprehensiveness, universality, portability, public administration and accessibility."<22>
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:46 AM
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25. But what kind of public option is a key question.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:20 PM
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11. I really hope this makes a difference. K & R! nt
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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:21 PM
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12. Watch... The Republicans will now start quoting opposition
... from the Miracle Whip Institute.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:24 PM
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15. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
DUzy!! :rofl:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:28 PM
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17. Took me a minute...
:)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:00 PM
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21. LOL! nt
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sentelle Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:23 PM
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14. OK the Mayo clinic is an OK
Theresa Heinz Kerry is good with it....

What about the Grey Poupon?
But of course......

(sorry, it had to be said).
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:50 PM
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20. You guys really need the DUzys to return
immediately. :D
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:46 PM
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19. k&r.....
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:01 PM
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22. the mayo clinic is the nirvana of healthcare
everyone their were actually real human beings that actually cared about me. the only complaint i had was the 60 grit sandpaper....
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:50 AM
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26. Funny How the Canadian Woman In the Anti-"Socialized" Health Care Ads
Talks about Mayo as taking her in right away, when her own doctor was taking a 'wait and see' approach.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:49 PM
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23. some good news yey! n/t
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:32 AM
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24. I was a patient at the Mayo Clinic
It's great news, I knew this was coming!!
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:53 AM
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27. Oooh, I find that really interesting
I work in a medical center that aspires to be Mayo, and thus far the administration has unofficially been against any sort of reform. (Not that they've admitted such in public.)
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