What does the rest tof the world think about us?We let people die who could be saved by healthcare.

[samsingh]

The insurance companies drop coverage for sick people, do not insure people who have been sick (isn't that the point of healthcare?), and deny life-saving operations for those who are covered. And yet the right-wing hypocritically accuses us of proposing death panels?

30,000,000 citizens that we know of do not have healthcare. Millions more have restricted healthcare or be tossed out of insurance programs at the first sign of sickness. We spend more money on healthcare than any other country. And yet, people who are affected by this are screaming with fear that any form of Government care would be bad for them.

How stupid have we become? People are making billions off this flawed system that leaves people DEAD.

Despite this, we have blue dog democrats holding up reform. We have repug leaders LYING about what is currently available and what reform would bring.

It's amazing that there even needs to be a debate, let alone a long and heated one. What does this say?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

1. Finally! A topic I can recommend THREE times.

[samsingh]

2. can you recommend a thread more than once?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

5. You triple posted this.

[samsingh]

6. i only see one copy of it

[Hassin Bin Sober]

13. Here are the others..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[samsingh]

15. whoops

[LeftishBrit]

3. k&r

No one in the UK could get away with seriously trying to abolish the NHS.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

4. What does the rest of the world ... about us? think? K&R

[DireStrike]

7. But but but heidi whats-her-name said on CNN

That there is a lot of debate and complaints from other countries about their health systems. She said there are lots of wait times. Clearly our system is at least as good and possibly better because it's American!

[samsingh]

19. only for the rich

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

8. I think we look like a nation of foolish, vain, and hypocritical people

who hold ourselves out as the nation to be most emulated despite our preference for war over peace, corporations over people and profit over care.

[cdsilv]

9. The world says it is the typical american attitude -

"I got mine, fuck you"!

[T Wolf]

10. We look like selfish, greedy idiots to the rest of the world. They cannot understand, or even

conceive, of a "health care system" that operates like ours.

Ever talk to someone from an "enlightened" country and talked about the system here?

They really do think we are insane.

And they are correct.

[Zoeisright]

11. +1

[samsingh]

16. and yet its a small minority of very vocal people who are against

extending healthcare

[Metta]

12. Only industrialized country where people lose their homes due to med bills.

The only one.

[mr blur]

14. We are completely baffled.

I just read a post on DU from a man whose wife was having to pay $900 that they couldn't afford for for a month's prescription medicine. Here, (UK) that would have cost me... £0. There is a small set fee for all prescriptions here - if you receive any benefits (e.g. I'm disabled) there is no charge. And I get 7 prescription meds each month.

The National Health Service isn't supposed to make a profit; it's a basic necessity for a civilised society.

Why does this seem so evil to so many Americans?

[Zix]

22. wrong place, self-delete, sorry

[ProudDad]

17. Because it's expensive to run a global empire...

and the biggest, baddest fucking war machine on the planet?

And our capitalist masters just don't give a fuck (they're insured and they OWN our governments)?

And the people are trained to be sheeple?

And we are the land of Stupid?

Piss on all Flags...

[Lucy Goosey]

18. We think you don't have a health care system, per se.

We also think you have different priorities, like spending more on defence than the whole rest of the world combined.

We think you are being seriously misled by your politicians and your media about what universal health care could look like. I mean, Sarah Palin saying that her disabled son would have been denied care because of his Down's syndrome? If she'd done 90 seconds of research with the Google, she would know that's not true, but unfortunately, she says things like that and people believe her. (Present company @ DU excluded, obviously.)

(OK, I'm obviously just speaking for myself, not the whole rest of the world. )

[truedelphi]

21. You took the words right out of my mouth. We are NOW EXPANDING

The war in Afghanistan, while Obama tries to decide if he should pay attention to the polls that explain we don't want that war, or instead listen to his Generals, who do want the war.

Our defense spending on wars amounts to 14% a year, which is exactly the amount needed for Universal Single Payer Health Care.

It should really be a no brainer -- but ...

[OwnedByFerrets]

20. K and R

[samsingh]

25. thanks

[ThePantaloon.com]

23. PUBLIC OPTION

Agreed. But if a bill passes without a public option, this could be a gift to the insurance industry. Requiring everyone to have insurance, but then only having the option of the overpriced, inefficient crap private plans would be disaster. PUBLIC OPTION - we go it alone like Bernie Sanders said.

[samsingh]

24. yes Public Option

you have a nice site

[MemeSmith]

26. Out here in the world

We think that you're all about to get a big dose of perspective about the US, its nature, its standing in the world, its direction and its hopes for its future.

We think that what's coming to you will be very painful, but hugely productive.

We're excited that this process is underway, because of what it promises.

Your empire is crumbling.

We're waiting for you on the other side.

Good luck.