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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:12 PM
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EXCLUSIVE: Upcoming Cover Story on Edmonds 'Outs' Video-taped, 'Blackmailed' Dem Congresswoman; MORE
Source: BRAD BLOG, American Conservative



EXCLUSIVE: Upcoming Cover Story on Edmonds 'Outs' Video-taped, 'Blackmailed' Dem Congresswoman; Alleges State Dept. Mole at NYTimes; MUCH MORE...
'American Conservative' mag's description of interview with previously-gagged FBI whistleblower as 'explosive' may prove to be a gross understatement
Blackmail, bribery, infiltration, theft and sale of nuke secrets by Turkey, Israel explained in clearer detail than ever before...

Over the weekend, we received an embargoed look at American Conservative magazine's final version of their cover story interview with formerly-gagged FBI translator turned whistleblower Sibel Edmonds. On Friday, AmCon had teased the coming feature by former CIA officer Phil Giraldi -- due on net and newsstands tomorrow -- as "explosive". That may be a vast understatement. At least if the U.S. corporate media bothers to notice it this time.

In addition to naming the identify of a married Democratic Congresswoman previously described by Edmonds as having been "hooked" into a lesbian affair by Turkish agents, who then video-taped the entire thing for blackmail purposes, loads of new details on Edmonds' disclosures are explained in the clearest, most-cogent, understandable terms yet. Even for beginners to the Edmonds story.

The exclusive interview lays out the details of what can be described as nothing short of a national security cancer that has metastasized throughout the U.S. government, to the covert monetary, military and strategic intelligence benefit of our allies and enemies alike.

Edmonds discusses a well-organized foreign intelligence black market superstore, benefiting everyone from treasonous U.S. officials to operatives and governments in Turkey, Israel, Pakistan, Iran, Libya, al-Qaeda and beyond, and she explains, in specific detail, how it all worked, and who the top culprits are...

COMPLETE EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7427

Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7427
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:17 PM
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1. I was literally in the process of posting this, Brad
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 01:19 PM by Hissyspit
Saying to myself 'why hasn't Brad posted it here yet, the slacker? LOL

Apparently you were on the phone. :)
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:18 PM
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2. What a tangled web we weave...
This oughta be something.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:26 PM
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5. It oughta have been something a long time ago
but better late than never I guess.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:21 PM
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3. Can I just say
...the phrase "hooked into a lesbian affair by Turkish agents" is the most outlandish I have seen in LBN lo these 8 long years of DUing. :rofl:

Looking forward to this. :D
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:34 PM
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7. Now I have this mental image...
...of Jan Schakowsky receiving some big-time flirting from Fairuza Balk. Thanks a lot! :rofl:
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 02:50 PM
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15. If Fairuza Balk is involved
I HAVE GOT TO SEE THAT TAPE!


She's the devil!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:58 PM
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13. All scandals are improved with a little 'girl on girl' action. nt
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:38 AM
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66. Perhaps that is why the Conservatives are covering it.
They have an great interest in such things.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 02:34 PM
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14. If there are hookers, doesn't that imply there are also
hookees? So I guess the Congresswoman was playing hookee.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 04:41 PM
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27. No. Different kind of "hooking"...
...As Sibel detailed in her recent under-oath 8/8/09 deposition, discussing who we now know to be Schakowsky, about how the "hooking" process works (Sibel is "A" and the attorney is "Q"):

A: ... these Turkish organizations and operatives, if they can't do it by money, they do by blackmail. So they collect information on sexual lives and other information like that, and with this particular Congresswoman, it being 2000 until I left, they --- this individual, this Congresswoman's married with children, grown children, but she is bisexual.

So they have sent Turkish female agents, and that Turkish female agents work for Turkish government, and have sexual relationship with this Congresswoman in her townhouse actually in this area, and the entire episodes of their sexual conduct was being filmed because the entire house, this Congressional woman's house was bugged. So they have all that documented to be used for certain things that they wanted to request when I left. So I don't know whether she --- that Congresswoman complied and gave. That's why I couldn't use her name because I don't --- I meant her face because I don't know if she did anything illegal afterwards.

But she was --- there are things; information was being collected for blackmail purposes, and her lesbian relationship, and they, the Turkish entities, wanted both congressional related favoritism from her, but also her husband was in a high position in the area in the state she was elected from, and these Turkish entities ran certain illegal operations, and they wanted her husband's help. But I don't know if she provided them with those. I left. I was terminated.

Q: And can you tell me how you know all that, everything you just told me?

A: I can't discuss the intelligence gathering method by the FBI, but in general terms, when foreign targets among themselves discuss how they were going to achieve certain goals, objectives, and if those communications are collected and recorded, not only do you have that communications, but in some cases they involved field office surveillance team to see that actually they completed.

For example, if they say --- somebody says at five o'clock they're going to bug his house, the surveillance team would go out and see that he had (unintelligible). So there were various ways that things were collected.

Q: All right. So just to make sure I understand this, the Turkish entities were at least preparing to blackmail this Congresswoman.

A: Correct.

Q: And is this Congresswoman still a sitting member of Congress?

A: Yes.

Q: And why, if you know, would they want to blackmail this Congresswoman?

A: I don't know what reasons they had, why they just didn't do money. They needed --- I was trained as a language specialist by my agent for --- to find personal information, and one of the things that we was taught in the FBI --- everyone was taught in the counterintelligence --- that the target U.S. persons, whether they are in Congress or executive branch or whatever, first go by foreign entities to what they refer to as hooking period, and it was very common; it's a very common way of trying to find vulnerability, and that is sexual, financial, any other kinds of greeds, and it was --- it was done a lot, was being done a lot, and in some cases certain people from Pentagon would send a list of individuals with access to sensitive data, whether weapons technology or nuclear technology, and this information would include all their sexual preference, how much they owed on their homes, if they have gambling issues, and the State Department, high level State Department person would provide it to these foreign operatives, and those foreign operatives then would go and hook those Pentagon people, whether they were at RAND or some other Air Force base.

And then the hooking period would take some times. Sometimes it takes months, sometimes one year. They would ask for small favor, but eventually after they reviewed the targets that the U.S. person --- some small favor, then they would go blackmail and that person would give them everything, nuclear related information, weapons related information. It always worked for them. So it was not always money.


You can read more of the Congress member-related comments from her deposition excerpted here:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7387
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 05:25 PM
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29. Thanks for your highly informative reply. However, my post that triggered it
was based on playing around with the various meanings of "hooker" etc.
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:23 PM
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4. I'll wait for the video.
:evilgrin:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:28 PM
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6. I get the feeling that Hastert et (R) al.'s misdeeds will be buried in favor of the"Dem sex" angle.
If the media is true to form, whatever damage Hastert, Blunt et al. did to the country will be glossed over, while the Dem sex angle will be wrung out for all its worth.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:36 PM
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8. And Schakowsky is one of the few really good progressives out there....
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:38 PM
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9. Agreed. nt
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:55 PM
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12. I wonder just how much Schakowsky was held back...
she may not have cared as much as they thought she would. I do hope that something like this would NOT hold her back if it came out and that her popularity would increase exponentially. I admire her a lot.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 02:55 PM
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17. Schakowsky? That's not the person I thought might have been targeted.
Why do you think it was Schakowsky? There is a more likely individual in Congress. I will not name her.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:01 PM
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18. Sibel names her...
Sibel names her in the AmCon interview. So it's not a guess. It's Sibel's allegations, on the record, based on what she heard on wiretaps while working as a translator at the FBI's counterintelligence division.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:06 PM
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20. Same here
Schakowsky is one of my favorites in Congress. I can't even begin to imagine what she is going through.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 04:10 PM
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25. She has been named many times. P.S. She can sleep with whomever she sleeps
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 04:11 PM by robinlynne
with. I support her. She represents the people!!!! I don't care who any of them sleep with. If they are doing the right thing while at work.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 04:29 PM
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26. Never named by Sibel before...
...Aside from that, I don't care who she sleeps with either. But if she's allowed herself to be opened to blackmail by foreign agents, I think you'd be concerned about that. Particularly with her senior position on the U.S. House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (where she chairs the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation).

Not a concern?

Okay.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:22 PM
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37. I think this should be looked at as perhaps just the tip of the iceberg...
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 07:23 PM by cascadiance
This blackmail probably shows us a concrete example of what's actually going on for many other members of congress, where we don't have the goods on what is going on, and they are being pushed into a corner in such a way that we don't go after prosecutions of the last administration that much.

Perhaps, in a way it is good that Sibel comes out and exposes her, even if she is a very decent congress person, and is doing good things for us otherwise, to show the rest of them that they all better grow spines or perhaps suffer the same fate.

And if it can be shown that Shankowsky hasn't responded to do anything the bribers want, we should really support her a lot now that it's in the open, provided she accounts for her behavior and makes sure that everything is above board now, and that she no longer is prone to any sort of blackmail like that again. If we back her up a lot and show her and other congress critters that we don't care about what they do in their private lives, and how the media and the other side want to blow it up out of proportion, perhaps that will also give them courage to do the right things in other areas too, if exposing their personal habits is all they are being blackmailed for.

We've already shown that we can support a "tainted" official in this way before when we supported Clinton after he was impeached. We can do it again.

On the other hand, I think having her at some point being honest about it IS the right thing to do (and for others to do as well!) so that we can move on and do the right things when it comes to passing appropriate health care legislation, and prosecuting war crimes like we should be. And if most other Democrats don't have to worry about doing anything else that was actually illegal, then by all means let's get it out in the open, and SUPPORT them if they do so!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:58 AM
Response to Reply #37
64. Sibel p[rovides us with ZERO evidence that her story about Schakowsky
is factual. None. Zip. I ain't buying without evidence.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:29 AM
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71. Well the way it usually works is one person makes an allegation
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 08:31 AM by Bandit
and then that person defends themself. If there is no evidence, such as FBI recordings or a video, or an admission, then it's possible they will be found innocent. Edmonds has been very consistant on this issue for almost eight years now. Has testified under oath several times now. By the way do you feel the same about Blunt and Hastert or just the Democratic Representative?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 08:48 PM
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42. Sibel put a question mark up becuase there is no indication she allowed herself to be blackmailed.
hi Brad.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #8
86. But her husband is a convicted felon
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. Well, if it doesn't bother the media that the former Speaker of the House is now a lobbyist for
a foreign government...
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:08 PM
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33. If this is true, I will be VERY sad for Jan Schakowsky.
I don't believe for a MOMENT that she was
being blackmailed, though.

Her votes have been TRUE BLUE for as long
as she has served.

:cry:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #33
39. I know...it's hard to know what to make of this. Shakowsky does vote
with Progressive Dems most of the time. I'd have been happier if it was Susan Collins, Mary Landrieu or others...

:shrug:
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:25 AM
Response to Reply #39
59. Shakowsky is just one
of the Congresspeople involved. Most of them "went
willingly." They were Bribed like Dennis Hastert or were
given sexual favors or whatever they wanted, in exchange for
votes and Nuclear secrets. And a lot of things that are
supposed to be protected by these Congresspeople. Shakowsky
couldn't be bought, but she could be blackmailed. Too bad our
country is so hypocritical, she could've told them to "go
ahead and tell the world, it won't matter", but we know
better.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:15 AM
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79. PassingFair, this is not about her votes. It's about what information she may have given
to someone who was blackmailing her. In her position, she was privy to secrets that would be very beneficial to a foreign operative.

As long as she kept the info pipeline open she didn't need to worry about them exposing her. She was still free to vote for what she thought was best for her constituents or the country.

But you are right. This is very sad. For her, for her constituents, and for America.

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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #79
93. Actually,this could have affected
legislation she may have had to deal with on Committee's and with bills she may have been considering introducing.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #93
94. That is certainly possible, conscious evolution, but not evident yet. At least, by one of
her constituent's evaluation.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:42 PM
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11. But, Congress has more important things to do
don't they? They have to cut off the pittance in funding ACORN was getting because the Republicans said it was the most important issue facing them and required instant action?

K&R for one of the most important stories that has been completely ignored by the MSM.

Good work, Brad ~ really admire your sticking with this story all the way through.

I just hope the article doesn't let any Republicans off the hook and focus mainly on the Democrat.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 02:54 PM
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16. This sounds more like the next Cohen Brothers movie than reality.
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #16
47. Coen Brothers n/t
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:04 PM
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19. Hmm, what are we to make of this?
"The epicenter of a lot of the foreign espionage activity was Chicago." Hence the involvement of Hastert and Schakowsky, all of which leaves Edmonds with many concerns about Illinois' former U.S. Senator Barack Obama and his current Chief of Staff, the former U.S. Congressman from Chicago, Rahm Emmanuel.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. Good point!!!! nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #21
40. A positive thing would be if Rahm was tied into this in some way. Obama could dump him...
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 07:26 PM by KoKo
and that would make many of us very happy. :hi:
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Thornleylv Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #19
85. What?
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 12:14 PM by Thornleylv
She was fired in 2002 and no longer getting information. President Obama did not become a senator until Jan 2005 ?????
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:15 PM
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22. Please let this be the expos that leads to prosecutions.
And I don't give a rat's ass whether there are Ds or Rs after their names. If they participated in selling our national security, they should be hung in the public square.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:18 PM
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:22 PM
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24. K&R
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 04:58 PM
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28. Since the lesbian Congresswoman is a Democrat, the MSM is sure to pick it up. (sarcasm) nt
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 05:58 PM
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30. k&r! nt
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:00 PM
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31. I'm guessing it was Jane Harmon?
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. Read the full article linked in the OP (n/t)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:01 PM
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32. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, BradBlog.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:20 PM
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35. Thanks, Joe. It's interesting that the story I ran last week on this...
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 07:20 PM by BradBlog
received more than 200 recs. Today, fewer DU folks are willing to rec, it seems. Even though today's story features a LOT more, never before disclosed details.

Because a Dem is named here? Perhaps. But that's no excuse, frankly. Corruption is need corruption, and if even a tenth of these allegations are true, we're talking about massive NATIONAL SECURITY corruption.

I'd hope that readers will consider that, and put aside any partisan perspective they may be bringing to this case. The recs are greatly appreciated here. Particularly if ALL of the truth here is ever to be FORCED to come out.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:22 PM
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36. I share your hopes.
Peace to you, :hi:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #35
41. Well...Brad...it's because it's a Progressive Dem and a President...but Rahm is the one
we'd love to get. But, I understand the reluctance of many here to sign onto this. Given Pat Buchanan is putting it out (we know his history) and that Sibel has "wonders about Obama and Rahm."

Many of us are very suspicious about RW taking down ANOTHER DEM PRES. Sibel and you need to understand that this BOMBSHELL would be met with some worry and skepticism.

:shrug: Just saying.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. No excuse.
It *should* be met with skepticism. Any such story should. And it should thus be investigated, etc.

That is no excuse, however, to giving a pass to someone "on your team". You suppose if the wingnuts get a hold of it and Dems had done nothing about it, that would be good for Dems? For Obama?

Do you think it's good to have someone who may be compromised as the head of the U.S. House Intel Oversight Comm?

Be skeptical. Ask questions. Demand answers from Schakowsky. But to put it aside as a RW hit job is foolish. Giraldi is quite legit, and American Conservative is not a "wingnut" magazine.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #44
48. Well said...and I agree. Thanks for your answer...
Good to hear.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #44
57. Maybe it's just me, but seems like this points to an inside job
Sounds a lot like the FBI and others were passing on info to foreign agents in order to compromise or turn targeted members of Congress and other high ranking officials. What better way to solidify a Unitary Presidency than to have opposition members on tape in compromising situations. For 8 years we wondered where the Dem backbones were. As Sibel said, money wasn't the only way to "buy" compliance or information.

This looks like an effort to skirt the most flagarent violations of the law by outsourcing the actual "hooking". Extraordinary Rendition, anyone?

It appears that in her role as a translator, she came across activities that linked back to the US handlers of this scheme and that's where the whistleblowing comes in. The Bush administration attempting to compromise Congressional leaders is just as explosive as their torture transgressions. Their unending evil is staggering.

The progression from Watergate to Iran-Contra to the scandal-ridden GWB administration is proof positive that the current Republican party needs to disappear from our political system.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:58 AM
Response to Reply #57
61. BigBrother05
Can you imagine if they had not fired Sibel for whistle
blowing, after only one year? It would have been great to get
her information on what happened during the whole
administration. I imagine that much truth would have
"exploded our heads" and buried the "powers
that be." You know we might "elect" a new
President every 4 or 8 years, but it is just for show. I am
sure that behind the scenes, there is a continuity of power
(the ruling elite) that really sets the rules. I MUST be a
conspiracy nut.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:38 AM
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60. You're preaching to the choir Brad.
Thank You for following and breaking this story. I have been
pushing it since I read your "expose." I have been
wondering how the MSM could get away with ignoring this for
so long...Unfortunately, now that it is clear a progressive
is involved, they will be happy to "report" on it.
I am so glad that Sibel had the guts, and that you are a real
journalist. Of course, I hate to see Jan dragged through the
mud...I hope the MSM focus's on the others that are involved
also.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:19 AM
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69. She has brought up much of this before but I never recall any
"concerns about" Obama, let alone "many"

It's a stupid stand alone comment. She is concerned because Of the Chicago connection. just that? If so it was dumb to bring his name up. People know he'd from Chicago, that wouldn't need to be added.
Or did she hear him or his name being brought up as involved? That is entirely different...and for that her statement about the concern is put stupidly too.

"Our side" should be exposed too...but "our" president shouldn't be a cause for "many concerns" due to "Chicago" if that's all it is. The right does use that line a lot, the Chicago politician thing, and just her inference will be candy for them

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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:52 AM
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67. Don't judge the importance of this post by the number of recs.
It is very important and very apreacieated...thanks.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:22 PM
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38. if it looks like a crackpot, sounds like a crackpot
and smells like a crackpot, it's probably a crackpot. She claims that the little blackmail schemes always worked for the Turkish agents. Always? Really? And the FBI would send out surveillance teams to see if a Congressperson's house was being bugged, but they didn't stop the house from being bugged by foreign agents? Really? And what's up with the silly unnamed photos? Can't she just list the damn names?
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:22 PM
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46. Ditto, chief...Your post would suggest much crackpottery

"Can't she just list the damn names?"

Um, she did. Apparently you haven't bothered to read anything about this case before declaring it "crackpot".

Massive FAIL, my friend.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:10 PM
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92. well, I read the whole deposition and
the picutres on her website still don't have names attached. I'm aware that she did verify certin names in the deposition.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:36 AM
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72. Is it that you don't want to deal with the truth here?
Or are you just blowing smoke ?
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:01 PM
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43. Yeah. "treasonous U.S. officials"...
WHEN ARE WE GONNA SEE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE GO TO PRISON???

Sorry to yell, but this drek goes on and on and on and no one is EVER held accountable. :puke:

All talk!
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:52 AM
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56. When we refuse to accept less
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:19 PM
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45. The k and the r
eom
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:55 PM
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49. holy shit. n/t
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:12 PM
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50. K&R. =sigh=
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 11:16 PM
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51. Let's hope...
Sibel finally gets some coverage by the MSM. Great work Brad and thanks for sticking with this story. K&R
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 11:17 PM
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52. Tremendous kudos to Sibel for her persistence,
and to you, Brad, for the help you've provided in helping her to break the force-field that's been put up against her revelations.

Two patriots.

Thank you, Sibel.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 11:30 PM
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53. Thanks, Brad.
As always, you do good work!

K&R! :fistbump:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 11:37 PM
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54. K & R
:thumbsup:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:04 AM
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55. It's up on the American Conservative site, but you need a subscription.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:43 AM
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58. K&R
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:11 AM
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62. K& R
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:17 AM
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63. morning kick
kick
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:23 AM
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65. I was pretty skeptical of Sibel Edmonds before this
Now, I think she's probably as batshit insane as Orly Taitz.

Just my opinion on this one. She lacks any sense of credibility because she makes claims and accusations, but I see no hard evidence to back up those claims and accusations.

Just like Orly Taitz.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:27 AM
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70. I suspect the same.
Her allegations have gone from accusing a co-worker of espionage to this accusation of "metastasized cancer". She worked for the FBI for six months and found out all of this, and she's the only translator from more than 1,100 who was sufficiently alarmed to blow the whistle.

Your comparison to Orly Taitz is spot on, in my opinion.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:53 AM
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83. For clarity...
The description of her disclosures as a "metastisized cancer" was mine. Not hers.

Yes, in those 6 months, she reviewed wiretaps from 1997 to 2002. Her whistleblowing allegations have been confirmed, in part, by the DoJ IG, Sens. Grassley and Leahy and by a number of other FBI colleagues over the years.

Because you're unaware of that information isn't her fault. There are many links in my story offering corroborating information. You may wish to click on them.

I've seen nothing that has particularly changed over the years in her claims, just that she is now able to give complete details on them, where she had been gagged previously by the Bush Administration. The details she's now offering in plain english match up with the details that have leaked out, through various means, in the past.

Sorry if you don't like hearing them.

Are they accurate? So far, none of have been shown to be unaccurate, and several points have been corroborated in various ways. They are certainly serious enough that they should be investigated and either corroborated or debunked. But your allegations and criticism noted above are completely unsubstantiated and without basis to my knowledge and after years of covering her story.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:37 AM
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73. Deleted message
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 09:11 AM
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75. Whatever.
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 09:11 AM by LiberalAndProud
We also recognize that her varied and insistent allegations of misconduct may have been frustrating, and that not all of her allegations were true. However, many of her allegations had a basis in fact, and the way the FBI responded to her allegations contributed to her persistent claims. Moreover, we believe the FBI should not discourage employees or contractors from raising good-faith allegations of misconduct or mismanagement and the FBI's termination of Edmonds' services may discourage others from raising such concerns.

With regard to Edmonds' other allegations of misconduct, most were not supported by the evidence we reviewed. However, she did raise a valid concern about unnecessary travel for certain linguists.



I think the woman has a vendetta, and spins more and more outrageous stories to try to get attention. But since her accusations further your own agenda -- have at it.


ETA link: http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/oig/sedmonds.html
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:17 AM
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80. That's certainly a possibility.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:15 PM
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87. This is exactly why I find her to lack credibility
Like all conspiracy theorist models, there is a grain of truth, but it all falls apart in the wilder accusations.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:55 AM
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68. k&r.....
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 09:01 AM
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74. THIS "should" be bigger than Watergate, but seems to
get NO attention. Its hard to believe that Ms Edmonds is still alive, given the nature of this game that is played by the power brokers.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:54 AM
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95. baloney.
it's a story with very little corroboration. Yes, her first complaint about her co-worker has validity, but everything after she was fired, is suspect.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 09:37 AM
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76. I think a more insidious story may be who was the FBI wiretap Edmonds was listening to
targeting?
Was it a foreign agent or a member of Congress?
Does (or did) the FBI routinely tap the phones of legislators?
Was it for a fishing expedition to see what kind of dirt they could get?
Would this "dirt" then be used as leverage against the opposing party by the administration to get votes for programs they wanted to ram through?
Is any of this information still being held by the party now out of power and still being used to influence how congressmen and senators vote?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 09:38 AM
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77. K&R
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 09:53 AM
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78. To me, the most interest I have in this
is the outing of Brewster-Jennings. It should be the focal point. All of this side attention, detracts from who outed the network, because it has a direct impact on the security of the country.

Also, how many remember the FBI agent, Coleen Rowley? Remember that agents had a lead on the alleged terrorists, but it seemed that the ones at the top didn't seem too interested at the time. I still believe, since that general in Pakistan supposedly wired the money to Atta, that Pakistan had something to do with 9/11. I'm bringing this up because Sibel first came to light after 9/11.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:19 AM
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81. oh dear
I hate it when one of our own is sucked in. Unfair tactics work, apparently.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:20 AM
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82. Rec
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Thornleylv Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:04 PM
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84. Obama?
How can she say that about president Obama when she was fired in 2002 and president Obama was not elected to the Senate until Jan 2005???? WTF :kick:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:30 PM
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88. she makes the accusation that several Illinois State Senators were
playing footsie with the Turkish gov't. She doesn't name or hint that Obama was one, but she's just vague about it all.

I have a health dose of skepticism about her claims.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:03 PM
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89. kick - very disturbing..the corruption is on both sides,
but I am not surprised.

The article/interview

http://amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:04 PM
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90. definite kick of support for this lovely person
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:05 PM
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91. kcik
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